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- Apr 9, 2021
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It would be fair to say that I spent my time seeking women in a rather confined area. Just 2 nightlife districts and a half-assed attempt at day pickup on a mountain path. I had no idea how to do non-bar approaches at that point in my life. I preferred hiking Piestewa to hiking Camelback but it would be possible to do pickups on both. Someone could spend 2 hours at the bottom of Piestewa or 2 hours at the bottom of the Echo Canyon trail of Camelback (in the parking lot) doing approaches. There's enough foot traffic in both spots to do approaches. That's not necessarily the only way to do path pickup but it would be valid.What's unique about this area is that there are attractive women anywhere you go in the Valley, not just the hotspots/affluent area/nightlife areas.
A lot of guys in Metro Phoenix live to get jacked and try to get some vagina. If you try to compete on looks alone, that's a tough place to be. Some younger guys will compete on looks and money. Superficiality and pretention are big there. Lots of guys in their 20s (I was in my 20s when I was there) will get a sportier BMW model or Mustang/Camaro to supplement weightlifting. Some 20s guys might even chase 30 something fitter women (either with or without kids) if they are struggling with their own age. A lot of older guys (35+) will often try to compete on money alone (often the appearance of money because they are drowning in debt), either with women close to their own ages or the 20 somethings.a lot of the dudes are good looking (no homo) and jacked, they tend to have bland personalities, mediocre vibes and lack game.
You don't find the intellect you would on the West Coast or the colorful personalities you would on the East Coast or in the South.
The whole area is bland and boring for a major metro, imo that's why you find guys chasing 8's and 9's in Scottsdale when you have 6's and 7's and the occasional 8 all over the Valley. When you're boring and live in a boring place, status does take precedence.
This made me laugh.I'm thinking there could be an Italidate site called Pest-O or something. Or a Golddigger one called Gweedo. Lolz
Glad to see you’re still out there Daygaming man.So much to get caught up on guys, I haven't posted in a bit. So I turned 30 not that long ago and mainly spent time with my family. Did not do much in the way of game. Today was day 3 of nofap for me but due to a lack of sleep last night, I ended up breaking nofap today. I am learning that bad habits beget other bad habits. However, keeping my head straight. Do have a date from daygame scheduled for this coming Friday though.
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What is the typical persona of women who attend The U (University of Miami)? I would call University of Miami one of the schools that's a part of my "Hot Girl U" description. Florida and Florida State are also a part of that.The U
It's nice to hear about women actually wearing dresses. Dresses emphasize femininity. I think Miami is better on women actually being feminine than a lot of cities. Dallas is so-so on this, but even at so-so, Dallas women are better at being feminine than a lot of places. Also, my opinion on this is a little skewed by doing approaches in scenarios where dress wearing wouldn't even be common for females that like dresses, such as parks and paths.Girl in red dress.
Two-set in a cute dress.
You said you arrived at the bar around 8 PM, which I wouldn't call Happy Hour but it's still on the earlier side of the night. I consider 5-8 PM Happy Hour approaching, more so on a weeknight than a Friday night. In general, Friday and Saturday nights at bars are the biggest shiit shows out there. Every beta male goes out on Friday and Saturdays and these beta males stink up joints with bad game, putting women in bad moods from fielding not so good approaches from men they really don't desire to talk to.2. @SW15 said it best, Happy Hour game is key and I am becoming a fan of it. IMO, if you can end nightgame by midnight then that is ideal for a healthy life. At least at the massive bar I go to, quality dies down fast after midnight itself. That's when the pickup guys, weirdo club promoters, and all of these other parasites flood in. Women get creeped out and the quality dies down as a result.
More of the Italian-American women are concentrated in New York-New Jersey area. There are some in Boston-Philadelphia-Chicago though. Neither Dallas nor Phoenix are known for their Italian-American populations.4. @BillyPilgrim going back to our convo on Italians, I found the blonde Italian chick from Boston to be super cool. Not sure what it is but I have always notice that Italian women who look very white are often cool as heck. On top of that, Italian women from Boston and East Coast cities that are not NYC are usually some of the most chill women out there. However, NY and NJ Italian women are the personification of trash.
That formula didn't work best for me and it doesn't seem like it has been the best formula for you. I learned the hard way in Old Town Scottsdale in my 20s and then made the necessary changes in Dallas. Roosh's "Day Bang" came out soon after I arrived in Dallas and I transformed my game into being a mostly non-bar approacher. I've had normies (male and female, some even married) hear about my non-bar approaching and they are amazed that I have the guts to do that.What you are describing is what most men do for nightgame. Strong pre-game at their place, roll out to bars at around 11 or midnight, and then some will spam approach. In the pickup group I am a part of, most dudes do this and you never see them pull. If they do pull, the girl looks like crap.
Good idea!Yeah basically that is what I notice. Come midnight, it is a sausagefest at the bar I go to. However, around 8 PM to 11 PM, it is golden hour because a lot of women are there compared to men, they are more relaxed since their nights are starting, and they have not been spam approached by 10+ PUAs/Club Promoters and those types of guys.
I try to be out by midnight at latest since by then, the quality has died down and the pickup spammers have taken over.
"Hot Girl U" doesn't automatically mean party school. U of Miami has a reputation because of being in Miami, a big party city with a strong brand.So from my experience in talking to them, The U attracts a ton of out of state women usually from the northeast. You are not likely to run into a lot of Florida girls that go to the U although for all I know, the statistics might prove me wrong. It is a private university and you also get a ton of international students, especially Euro girls.
Funny thing is that the two blondes I was speaking to said they choose to go to tailgates at FSU despite going to the U because those tailgates are more real. The U is a private university and what is odd is that even though it is in Coral Gables, there is absolutely nothing to do in that area so everyone either goes to downtown Miami, South Beach, or Brickell for the party.
I am a fan of ass for days. There is that acronym PAWG. Phat Ass White Girl. Most White women are not known for their butts.hot blonde was walking her dog and I mean she had an a$$ for days
Did you push back on that? Always push back when you get the boyfriend line. I've not gotten it much in recent years.tried to close her for a date, said she had a boyfriend.
Solid opener. I like how the conversation went and that she was receptive.Opened her with that and she was receptive. Told her she looks fashionable and has a very California vibe to her. She says she is from CT but moved to Miami 4 years ago.
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Keep it up, man. It used to be easy.. "HEY!...you wanna smoke some weed?" was the only line you ever needed.
Yeah, I have been thinking that the one thing that has made it harder for me than usual is the fact that I am in Miami. Could I do better in any other major city out there? I am thinking I most likely could be the women in Miami are so hot that it is almost worth it to conquer this city though it will take time since I am a daygame newbie. I'll actually be heading to Chicago soon and will be there for a week so great time to AB test.Maybe @Jesse Pinkman shouldn't sleep on Houston, Tx. I got convinced out to bar hop by the girl I'm talking to and her friends and there were so many females just dancing by themselves. In my group, we had a single white woman, and no guys approached her lol. I was thinking it would be nice to be a single guy right now, but I quickly remembered the BS of hitting on women in bar/club venues and woke up lol.
There are times where it has nothing to do with you. Approaching strangers, especially at non-bar venues, is a total unknown. At bars, there's a decent chance the woman is looking for a new penis because there's not a lot of a point to going to bars when in a romantic relationship. Being on a swipe app is a quasi signal of a market presence though a lot of women are doing the apps for validation rather than dating.I would love to hear of your objection handling there but when they say that, I usually think I did a poor job in gaming them.
I just really need to get it together, could have done so much more with that set. New wing is showing me to prolong sets better.
AccurateMaybe @Jesse Pinkman shouldn't sleep on Houston, Tx. I got convinced out to bar hop by the girl I'm talking to and her friends and there were so many females just dancing by themselves. In my group, we had a single white woman, and no guys approached her lol. I was thinking it would be nice to be a single guy right now, but I quickly remembered the BS of hitting on women in bar/club venues and woke up lol.