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Is race more important than masculinity?

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Bad logic. What does failure have to do with this conversation?
If success (the opposite of failure) has nothing to do with race, then logically failure has nothing to do with race as well, correct?
 

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Bad logic, sir. Success and failure are not opposites.

Really? The dictionary says you are wrong. Here is a screenshot to help.

See where it says failure is the opposite to success?

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Anecdotal fallacy.



White men experience the same amount of discrimination as black men? Is that what you’re suggesting?
What I'm suggesting is that it's pointless to have a perpetual misery measuring contest, like an old woman.

Ethel: "my foot has been bothering me all day."

Mildred: "your foot? My leg has been excruciating all week."

Ethel: "your leg? What about my back?! I could barely get out of bed, all month!"

Mildred: "don't get me started about getting out of bed. I was stuck bed for a year, when I was in the coma!!"

Whatever, though. You're suffering is special. Nothing like it has ever been experienced, in any corner of the globe, at stage of mankind's development. You win the world's most pathetic contest. Congratulations.
 

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Really? The dictionary says you are wrong. Here is a screenshot to help.

See where it says failure is the opposite to success?

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Conflation of usage. Failure can refer to singular act, or a pejorative term for a lowlife. You meant the latter, then disingenuously applied it to the former.

Textbook attempt at misdirection. That’s standard operating procedure for Danger. I failed a 320 lb squat rep yesterday. Does that mean I’m a failure? Name a successful person who as never failed.
 
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What I'm suggesting is that it's pointless to have a perpetual misery measuring contest, like an old woman.

Ethel: "my foot has been bothering me all day."

Mildred: "your foot? My leg has been excruciating all week."

Ethel: "your leg? What about my back?! I could barely get out of bed, all month!"

Mildred: "don't get me started about getting out of bed. I was stuck bed for a year, when I was in the coma!!"

Whatever, though. You're suffering is special. Nothing like it has ever been experienced, in any corner of the globe, at stage of mankind's development. You win the world's most pathetic contest. Congratulations.
Masculinity and race are not mutually exclusive concepts. Next time you dedicate a thread to quenching your insatiable desire to make racism disappear, try comparing it to something relevant. Tighten up your talking points, guy.
 

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Masculinity and race are not mutually exclusive concepts. Next time you dedicate a thread to quenching your insatiable desire to make racism disappear, try comparing it to something relevant. Tighten up your talking points, guy.
This isn't about me. It's about you. Try looking inward, and doing some maintenance on your excuse factory.


....because, if you think "woe is me" victimology is in any way compatible with masculinity, I'd love to meet your mentor; I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
 

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This isn't about me. It's about you. Try looking inward, and doing some maintenance on your excuse factory.


....because, if you think "woe is me" victimology is in any way compatible with masculinity, I'd love to meet your mentor; I'm sure she's a lovely woman.
What a poor ad hominem. Feel free to check my post history for “woe it is me” posts regarding masculinity. Good luck.
 

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What a poor ad hominem. Feel free to check my post history for “woe it is me” posts regarding masculinity. Good luck.
Try some self-awareness. Been throwing yourself enough pity parties to cover a sorority that just lost its charter.

It's just old and tiresome, and difficult to have a productive conversation with a man who sees dark clouds over his every footstep. It's exhausting.
 

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Try some self-awareness. Been throwing yourself enough pity parties to cover a sorority that just lost its charter.

It's just old and tiresome, and difficult to have a productive conversation with a man who sees dark clouds over his every footstep. It's exhausting.
Ironic. Look, if discrimination, bigotry, and racism make you uncomfortable how about you do something about it? If you preach masculinity to Neo-Nazis maybe they won’t blame their own failure on blacks, Jews, immigrants, and women. Sound like a plan?
 
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Conflation of usage. Failure can refer to singular act, or a pejorative term for a lowlife. You meant the latter, then disingenuously applied it to the former.

Textbook attempt at misdirection. That’s standard operating procedure for Danger. I failed a 320 lb squat rep yesterday. Does that mean I’m a failure? Name a successful person who as never failed.
No I mean the former. And it means you failed at that particular attempt at a squat.

The dictionary CLEARLY SHOWS that success and failure are opposites.

Do you disagree?
 

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My post is clear. No further explanation is necessary.
No it is not.

If you were successful in squatting 340, then you did not fail at it, correct? And Vice-Versa?
 

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Ironic. Look, if discrimination, bigotry, and racism make you uncomfortable how about you do something about it? If you preach masculinity to Neo-Nazis maybe they won’t blame their own failure on blacks, Jews, immigrants, and women. Sound like a plan?
Strangely, I never encounter neonazis. Do you? Are they there in the room with you, now? Are they under your bed? Lemme know, 'cause I'll grab a flashlight, and come over there. I'm here for ya, brother.
 

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Strangely, I never encounter neonazis. Do you? Are they there in the room with you, now? Are they under your bed? Lemme know, 'cause I'll grab a flashlight, and come over there. I'm here for ya, brother.
Anecdotal fallacy. Are you suggesting they don’t exist? Why are you not preaching masculinity to them?
 
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Anecdotal fallacy. Are you suggesting they don’t exist? Why are you not preaching masculinity to them?
I suspect they DO exist, but I've never run into them. So, I imagine Hollywood and DC greatly exaggerate their numbers(to frighten minorities into supporting socialism, would be my guess).

Maybe it's a regional thing? Do you have a lot of nazis in the Northeast? I was born and raised in the South, and I've never seen a Klansman(except in movies, TV shows, and on the news), either, but I'm sure there must be some around here, somewhere. I've never really looked for any, though.

On the other hand, I DO encounter a LOT of Black guys who blame racism for just about everything -- just in case you're still wondering why I'm talking to YOU, instead of “them." Don't worry, though, if I ever run into them, I'll give them a piece of my mind, too.
 
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No it is not.

If you were successful in squatting 340, then you did not fail at it, correct? And Vice-Versa?
@EyeBRollin Are you now avoiding this question? It's a simple yes or no....
 

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“Success” or “masculinity” have nothing to do with race.
Let's expand on this as well.

If success has nothing to do with race, then I suppose that means there is no such thing as White privilege. Their success had nothing to do with their being White
 
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