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Is it wrong for a 30+ year old man to be attracted to girls in their late teens?

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OP. When I was 15 years old, I distinctly remember some of the hottest girls at my school (14-15 years old) would regularly brag and tell stories about getting banged by older men.

I’m not saying that it’s right. But it’s what happened. It happened because, in their own words, young guys don’t know what they are doing. Inexperience is a turn off for women.

See, there’s what we are told happens (in the media). And then there’s what actually happens. Women have the opportunity (and desire) to start banging while they are very young. If she doesn’t have parental supervision and protection then she’ll do it.

Young, inexperienced girls are a bounty (historically always considered as such). It’s after they’ve been banged and dumped a few times that they become totally useless as a long term partner. It’s why feminine purity was so worshipped, and it’s also the fundamental reason why women are so angry, generally speaking, in 2022 - the valuable aspects of their femininity have been eroded and I think they instinctively know it.
 

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While there is nothing wrong with liking and being attracted to women younger than you, as long as they are legal, I do think that how most older guys go about it is pathetic. Now before the whole board jumps on me, let me explain.

If you happen to be a 35 year old guy and say some 19 year old girl is really into you, there is nothing wrong with being attracted to her and taking her home. In fact, in NYC it is somewhat common to see men in their 30s date and marry women in their early twenties. However, in these cases the guy is often attractive, cool, and the girl is usually the one chasing him because of his status and his success in life. The guy is also in sync with the girl's way of life and her crowd so he is easily accepted into her crowds.

What is pathetic is how most guys who are older and "red pilled", often out of sync with younger culture and what is cool in that word, pedestalizing younger women and chasing them. These guys are cringe because they will post crap on the internet such as "I want my fertile young women" (serious, say that crap in real life and look at how fast everyone thinks you belong in an asylum).

Being an older guy (30+) and trying to target going after younger women because you failed with them in college or your early twenties is quite pathetic. In fact, most of the times, you are going to fail if you are any of these red pill or pickup guys because you can't relate to their way of life, what they find cool, what they like, and are usually going to come off as that creep at the bar that they want to get away from.

Finally, as much as older dudes talk about "the wall" or how damaged older women are, most of them aren't a catch themselves either. Older guys are often bitter, out of touch, and weird themselves so I never get them attacking older women that are still single. You aren't really that much above dating an older woman or a woman around your age because you have just as many issues as she does in most cases. You two are made for each other.
I think you’ve conflated 2 seperate issues.

Pursuing women who don’t like you is pathetic regardless of her age or your age.

There’s probably a limit to it, but the natural male/female polarity is the older, experienced guy and younger, pure, ready-to-bond woman. These are the pairings that last, unless the older guy abuses the enormous power you get from having a young, pure woman attached to you. Therefore, for that to work there must be proper marriage and infidelity laws put in place that appreciate this - older man/younger woman - the man has a huge responsibility here. All women want you to replace their father.
 

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Especially now that I have daughters in teens and twenties I really have a hard time feeling sexual towards any female under 25. I do view older guys who prey on 18-20 year olds like the 21 year old who still goes to high school parties that peaked in high school.
I'm glad you brought that up. I've noticed that a man's perspective changes about age gaps when he has daughters.

Do you think everybody's reply to this thread would be different and blame it on that if you disclosed you looked at it or did not mention it at all?
I was making a statement based on my knowledge. I think pornography alters the brain so that the outcome of that conditioning is questionable at best.

Being an older guy (30+) and trying to target going after younger women because you failed with them in college or your early twenties is quite pathetic. In fact, most of the times, you are going to fail if you are any of these red pill or pickup guys because you can't relate to their way of life, what they find cool, what they like, and are usually going to come off as that creep at the bar that they want to get away from.
A man's mindset is a potent factor here. I can tell you from experience that it can be pulled off.
 

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Wouldn't go that far.
If we're speaking from a purely physical perspective, I absolutely would. What man finds 34 year old women more attractive on average than 20 year olds?
 

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I was making a statement based on my knowledge. I think pornography alters the brain so that the outcome of that conditioning is questionable at best.
I think you brought up the point as a way of legitimizing your interest in younger women. You are saying like "I feel entitled to like younger women because my mind is not re-wired to be some deviant pervert. Do you all agree that I'm normal?" So, my question in this case is do you think people's advice on this thread would have been for you to stop looking at porn rather than legitimizing your interests in younger women as normal?

If I were to take you argument at face value, and those are your thoughts, then I'd say maybe your past consumption of porn, has permanently re-wired your brain in some way so now you are deviant to like young women and had you never looked at it in the first place, you would not be deviant and would like women around your own age. You've said nothing that you can undo or un-wire your brain if you stop looking at porn so the damage is already done.

I'm trying to see how that argument fits into your mindset about liking or not liking younger women since you brought that up on this thread (not as a separate other topic).
 

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TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.
 

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TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.
But do they watch porn or not?
 

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TBH, this obsession older guys have with younger women is always rooted in some sort of mental or emotional flaw. Yeah dudes will cite biology or whatever but most of the times it is an ego thing. Older guy never had success with younger women back in his day and now he wants to make up for lost time. I've known more than a handful of dudes like this who daygame college campuses despite being 30+, go to college parties, hit up college bars, and try to go to young nightclubs.

Very rarely, if ever, have I seen these guys actually pull. Most of the times, everyone is sort of laughing at them while the younger woman is usually going off with some Chad her age. Almost all the time these guys swear off women their age and obsess over chasing younger women, often failing and coming off as creeps in the process. The success is rarely if ever there.

When I have seen older guys have success with younger women, they normally went for women their own age and had great relationships there. They had a lot of fun with women their own age because they were fun guys to be around. Younger women picked up on this and opened up more to these older guys who didn't want them but then it just ended up happening.
Sounds like we've had very different experiences. I was an organizer for college events and that by itself was enjoyable; I had a lot of fun. Picking up girls there was just icing on the cake.

I think you brought up the point as a way of legitimizing your interest in younger women. You are saying like "I feel entitled to like younger women because my mind is not re-wired to be some deviant pervert. Do you all agree that I'm normal?" So, my question in this case is do you think people's advice on this thread would have been for you to stop looking at porn rather than legitimizing your interests in younger women as normal?
I'm glad you brought that up, and there is some truth to that. I think a lot of men out there are at least somewhat perverted by pornography. The fact that I don't get into that stuff is one of those things that I can brag about being better than other men out there.

Does that make me feel entitled to younger women? Not really.

If I were to take you argument at face value, and those are your thoughts, then I'd say maybe your past consumption of porn, has permanently re-wired your brain in some way so now you are deviant to like young women and had you never looked at it in the first place, you would not be deviant and would like women around your own age. You've said nothing that you can undo or un-wire your brain if you stop looking at porn so the damage is already done.
I don't think the damage is necessarily permanent. I honestly don't know enough about the subject to know for sure, but my guess is that your mind and body tends to heal itself over time and so the damage goes away.
 

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Feminism (society) closed off young fertile women to protect the egos of the older aging women. A married man will easily shack up with a 15+ girl if the law wasn't going after him. It's common in south america for women to have sex at ages even early as 13. 12 year old pregnancies is not abnormal there. Same in the middle east. India and China have similar cultures of young women. And girls as young as 15-16 in europe have sex constantly with older men.
 

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Perception will eventually change when you have a daughter the same age.
Desire and attraction may creep, but its usually buried behind one’s morality.
 

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Perception will eventually change when you have a daughter the same age.
Desire and attraction may creep, but its usually buried behind one’s morality.
Most of us on here don't though.
 

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No. They're hot. I have 9 more years before my daughter is 18, so maybe when I'm literally dating girls her age it might be weird.. but until then I have no morals against banging younger chicks.
 

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Shoot, I'm 61 and I notice that the most attractive women are 18-25 (actually I've always said 18-27). But I'm not going to go after an 18 year old at my age lol. Maybe if I was Genghis Kahn or buying a prostitute (which I'm not inclined to do). The only difference with being older is a lot of 40 year olds look really young to me, and thus pretty hot. Of course some of them don't, but whatever. Males being attracted to youth is biology.
 

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Shoot, I'm 61 and I notice that the most attractive women are 18-25 (actually I've always said 18-27). But I'm not going to go after an 18 year old at my age lol. Maybe if I was Genghis Kahn or buying a prostitute (which I'm not inclined to do). The only difference with being older is a lot of 40 year olds look really young to me, and thus pretty hot. Of course some of them don't, but whatever. Males being attracted to youth is biology.
Are you really 61?

Always had the impression you're 40s max.
 

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Nah zekko is an OG. He's been around awhile. While 20 year olds are post flaming each other he's dropping old man wisdom.
Young women are so valuable that you can clearly see an element of gaslighting on this thread. @Jesse Pinkman, who can generally be counted on for the most BluePill posts on this forum, says there’s something “mentally wrong” with men liking young women.

I suspect that uncooperative Woke Beta Males want to gaslight everyone into only banging women 40+, while they take your kids to Trans Story Hour.
 
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