Im always lacking in one body muscle no matter how i train.
Friend is on test cyonate or something...works great i hear.
Its def. Not gear.
Then ill have to be on that for the rest of my life i hear.
Just wanted to hear some thoughts before i speak with my doc.
Thanks.
Get tested as AA says. Try dietary changes first that can help increase Test levels. If it's simply one body part then it isn't a Test issue. It's a training/recovery/technique issue.
Be VERY careful going this route because you will destroy your body's natural production as you stated. If you're under 40 then don't sacrifice your natural body processes because of a body image issue. Fix the root cause and don't simply cut corners.
I havent got tested...thats why im making a dr. Appt.
Zinc really worked. Obviously im not picking up mountains. But libido wise there was a difference.
I eat pretty healthy and boring. I mean, boiled chicken...baked chicken...steam veggies...fruits...no ice cream ever...etc. but i like eating like that. I feel clean inside.
The thing is i heard test also gives you the energy to get going.
Im not lazy but i lost a step.
Zinc really worked. Obviously im not picking up mountains. But libido wise there was a difference.
I eat pretty healthy and boring. I mean, boiled chicken...baked chicken...steam veggies...fruits...no ice cream ever...etc. but i like eating like that. I feel clean inside.
The thing is i heard test also gives you the energy to get going.
Make sure to get Total Testosterone and Free Testosterone (Equilibrium Dialysis) tested if you want accurate results. Or if you're looking for an excuse to get on "not gear", save your money on the Free Test.
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I've looked into this once before. Got tested, made appointments. In the end, the health effects it would have were too volatile and damaging long term. The increased levels also disappear after 6-9 months and I'd have to just keep taking injections. The offices I found that would deliver it to those below old age were hard to find and very sketchy. Not worth it the trouble.
You're rationalizing the desired outcome that you see as a quick fix. It isn't. I'm not saying that to be a **** but to have someone challenge you on your base assumptions as to what is going on and why you're suddenly asking these questions.
100% agree with Money & Muscle. Saying it's "not gear" is a very convenient rationalization. TRT and all the forms of gear are a HUGE problem in young males these days and more and more of them are taking ****tails of drugs earlier and earlier and ignoring the long-term effects.
Take a hard step back and try and be as unbiased as possible with yourself (easier said than done) about what is truly challenging you. Get tested as others said but realize ~100% of that is correctable via non-TRT methods.
Testosterone isn't worth it and no, it's not going to make your d.ick bigger if that's what you are suggesting. Def not how it works. Growth hormone will though.. how do i KNow? been around gym dudes my whole life who take all type of sht.. from steroids to peptides to sarms, insulin, thyroid medications, clenbuterol, DNP, etc. Some of the dudes I know are like walking biochemists. They know so much about the human body its nuts.
I've looked into this once before. Got tested, made appointments. In the end, the health effects it would have were too volatile and damaging long term. The increased levels also disappear after 6-9 months and I'd have to just keep taking injections. The offices I found that would deliver it to those below old age were hard to find and very sketchy. Not worth it the trouble.
The effects goes away in 6-9 months? What are you saying? TRT is for life, and to have the best quality of life you can get when your levels are low, it is totally worth all the trouble.
We always have guys in the bodybuilding community who say "Gear is not worth it bro" but they've been juicing for years. Test is the only anabolic that is worth it and maybe Nandrolone, but definitely not Tren.
I'm around a LOT of gear dudes and every one who has tried to HGH their d*ck bigger has not seen results unless combined with penile stretching devices, which work on their own merit (at literal thousands of dollars less expensive).
Being on TRT might be worth it, if OP is deficient... but he came here looking to justify a choice, not address symptoms - meaning he likely doesn't have low T. That being the case, i'll agree it's not worth it for him. However, if the results show clinically low T, or very low in the reference range, it's probably worthwhile. My TT was 329 and Ft was 7.0 at 27 years old and 15%BF with 13 years lifting at the time.
Be careful with that statement, I was 32 when I went into TRT, my Total was 380 and my Free was at 8.
The effects goes away in 6-9 months? What are you saying? TRT is for life, and to have the best quality of life you can get when your levels are low, it is totally worth all the trouble.
We always have guys in the bodybuilding community who say "Gear is not worth it bro" but they've been juicing for years. Test is the only anabolic that is worth it and maybe Nandrolone, but definitely not Tren.
Idk I'm just a strong advocate that unless you have hypogonadism or some severe hormone issues theres no reason to take test if you're under like 40-50. I think people just look for shortcuts.. It seems like OP is looking for something to grow his little man down there.
I mean I've def got tested to see whether I should give myself a reason to get on Test and then run a cycle while at it, but came back with pretty moderate- high levels of free testosterone so it kinda saved me from taking the plunge. Then shortly after hearing about friends getting on dialysis and having kidney/liver issues.. from years of gear kinda made me say nooppe. THen a few years later, I think about 5-6 big names in the bodybuilding community passed all within a year or two.
Don't get me wrong though in my 40's im probably going to take the plunge and maybe get on TRT but probably not other sht.. maybe HGH if my joints get wonky and my endurance goes down but I dont see that happening till maybe my 60s. Absolutely have 0 health issues right now. The closest I've gotten to health issues was having some acidity but I also ate alot of Italian food thats heavy in like tomato sauces and cheese and all that. Had to cut down, that and tons of coffee.
Tren is person dependent. I ran 19-Nor (deca) for like 8 weeks and had to bail from mental sides, so I definitely won't be dabbling with tren. There are some people who do great on it, but it is SUPER person dependent.
Primo, Var, Mast, Eq, and DHB all seem to be reasonable as far as "worthwhile gear". But that is still extremely dependent on how much health you're willing to sacrifice for muscle that most people taking gear could have accrued naturally.
I'm at a point where additional muscle will require extreme measures and more gear, so I have decisions to make - but most people aren't built like me either. Not bragging; that's an objective statement.
We all are dude. IDK if you saw the deep dive into xenoestrogens in the water supply I posted a couple months back, but yeah, we're all drinking estrogen.
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Idk I'm just a strong advocate that unless you have hypogonadism or some severe hormone issues theres no reason to take test if you're under like 40-50. I think people just look for shortcuts.. It seems like OP is looking for something to grow his little man down there.
Idk I'm just a strong advocate that unless you have hypogonadism or some severe hormone issues theres no reason to take test if you're under like 40-50. I think people just look for shortcuts.. It seems like OP is looking for something to grow his little man down there.
I mean I've def got tested to see whether I should give myself a reason to get on Test and then run a cycle while at it, but came back with pretty moderate- high levels of free testosterone so it kinda saved me from taking the plunge. Then shortly after hearing about friends getting on dialysis and having kidney/liver issues.. from years of gear kinda made me say nooppe. THen a few years later, I think about 5-6 big names in the bodybuilding community passed all within a year or two.
Don't get me wrong though in my 40's im probably going to take the plunge and maybe get on TRT but probably not other sht.. maybe HGH if my joints get wonky and my endurance goes down but I dont see that happening till maybe my 60s. Absolutely have 0 health issues right now. The closest I've gotten to health issues was having some acidity but I also ate alot of Italian food thats heavy in like tomato sauces and cheese and all that. Had to cut down, that and tons of coffee.
Tren is person dependent. I ran 19-Nor (deca) for like 8 weeks and had to bail from mental sides, so I definitely won't be dabbling with tren. There are some people who do great on it, but it is SUPER person dependent.
Primo, Var, Mast, Eq, and DHB all seem to be reasonable as far as "worthwhile gear". But that is still extremely dependent on how much health you're willing to sacrifice for muscle that most people taking gear could have accrued naturally.
I'm at a point where additional muscle will require extreme measures and more gear, so I have decisions to make - but most people aren't built like me either. Not bragging; that's an objective statement.
I tried small microdoses of tren along with my TRT for a bit to see what would happen and literally almost went into kidney failure from my blood pressure going so high.
My body cannot handle steroids AT ALL outside basic TRT and that's with every support and supplement to try and reduce issues.
Idk I'm just a strong advocate that unless you have hypogonadism or some severe hormone issues theres no reason to take test if you're under like 40-50. I think people just look for shortcuts.. It seems like OP is looking for something to grow his little man down there.
I mean I've def got tested to see whether I should give myself a reason to get on Test and then run a cycle while at it, but came back with pretty moderate- high levels of free testosterone so it kinda saved me from taking the plunge. Then shortly after hearing about friends getting on dialysis and having kidney/liver issues.. from years of gear kinda made me say nooppe. THen a few years later, I think about 5-6 big names in the bodybuilding community passed all within a year or two.
Don't get me wrong though in my 40's im probably going to take the plunge and maybe get on TRT but probably not other sht.. maybe HGH if my joints get wonky and my endurance goes down but I dont see that happening till maybe my 60s. Absolutely have 0 health issues right now. The closest I've gotten to health issues was having some acidity but I also ate alot of Italian food thats heavy in like tomato sauces and cheese and all that. Had to cut down, that and tons of coffee.
Tren is person dependent. I ran 19-Nor (deca) for like 8 weeks and had to bail from mental sides, so I definitely won't be dabbling with tren. There are some people who do great on it, but it is SUPER person dependent.
Primo, Var, Mast, Eq, and DHB all seem to be reasonable as far as "worthwhile gear". But that is still extremely dependent on how much health you're willing to sacrifice for muscle that most people taking gear could have accrued naturally.
I'm at a point where additional muscle will require extreme measures and more gear, so I have decisions to make - but most people aren't built like me either. Not bragging; that's an objective statement.
I tried small microdoses of tren along with my TRT for a bit to see what would happen and literally almost went into kidney failure from my blood pressure going so high.
My body cannot handle steroids AT ALL outside basic TRT and that's with every support and supplement to try and reduce issues.
That's happening with me right now on EQ, I'm hypertense cause of genetics, and I thought my HBP medication was able to control it, but it super high, I ended the cycle after 7 weeks just right after starting to kick in.
