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Almost the entire internet is woke and bluepill now. It's sad. SoSuave is one of the final bastions. I have a lot to thank the redpill sphere of the internet for helping me to refine my game. The old Roosh forum, Chateau Heartiste, The Rational Male (who actually started his career on SoSuave).

I'm 6'3, and good looking. But my biggest advantage is confidence and learned redpill awareness. I wasn't born redpill. I know plenty of guys who are better looking than me, but get no sex because they are bluepill.
Really? It seems 'RP' ideology has infiltrated YouTube, almost to the point it's borderline mainstream.
 

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Cold approach in a coffee shop. Not much interaction at all. I literally just approached her, made a comment about the unique leather jacket she was wearing. We had a brief chat about fashion (that was my in or hooking point), and I mentioned I was living in the fashion-district of Sydney and knew a few fashion designers.
She's got to be an ethnic, which would explain a lot. I could see being tall and playing JBW working. Maybe she wants a man to sponsor her or her in-laws, which is why is she is looking to get serious at the same time she has the morals of Miley Cyrus. :rolleyes: There has to be more to this story, and it sure isn't you achieving this through "tight game" ...
 

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The people on this forum keep getting their wires crossed thinking that the females want this "Chad alpha fantasy" that exists nowhere besides on this forum. It definitely doesn't exist in the brains of the girls.
You've never known any natural alphas have you? I do... He is not muscular, not the most attractive. He may be around 5'9. I've seen him just say "hi cutie" to a female and she responded with the utmost enthusiasm. I've approached over 40 women now. Not once have I got a reception like that! He got me a bj from a chick that I didn't even know! She just pulled up I got in the back seat and she went to town. On both me and him. He is constantly texting females. Before it used to aggravate me, but now I understand it. I have seen him talking with different females everytime we hung out. If he is a natural that is not built, but gets this kind of action from females, Why would you think a taller, more muscular version of him doesn't exist?
 

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You've never known any natural alphas have you? I do... He is not muscular, not the most attractive. He may be around 5'9. I've seen him just say "hi cutie" to a female and she responded with the utmost enthusiasm. I've approached over 40 women now. Not once have I got a reception like that! He got me a bj from a chick that I didn't even know! She just pulled up I got in the back seat and she went to town. On both me and him. He is constantly texting females. Before it used to aggravate me, but now I understand it. I have seen him talking with different females everytime we hung out. If he is a natural that is not built, but gets this kind of action from females, Why would you think a taller, more muscular version of him doesn't exist?
And did he lie to the girls and promise them things before leaving after sex?

Cause those were the guys I was talking about... And you started talking about someone unrelated to the story.

And sure I've seen guys like that... In early 20's and younger. When the girls wouldn't know reality from a hole in the ground. And most of the girls they're with are low quality.
 

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Yea, if you're in America 6'3" is ideal. Maybe not in a Nordic country where 6'1" is average.
It's like that in the Netherlands. When I'd visit, I'd get mogged by 13 year olds. :mad:
 

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. And you started talking about someone unrelated to the story.
It's a retort to your statment of :

The people on this forum keep getting their wires crossed thinking that the females want this "Chad alpha fantasy" that exists nowhere besides on this forum.
The guy I was talking about is closer to a chad archtype than anything. He's just not muscular or tall. The females were definitely showing him interest. Enough to where EVERYTIME I hung out with him he was talking to multiple new ones. So I would think that yeah, due to the sheer volume of women he was constantly in contact with, they do want this "chad alpha fantasy".
 

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She's got to be an ethnic, which would explain a lot. I could see being tall and playing JBW working. Maybe she wants a man to sponsor her or her in-laws, which is why is she is looking to get serious at the same time she has the morals of Miley Cyrus. :rolleyes: There has to be more to this story, and it sure isn't you achieving this through "tight game" ...
She's very ethic - she belongs to an endangered minority race called "Hot White Woman" in a city full of mystery meat.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

Glad you banged a hot girl, OP. However the whole crux of the thread misses the point. She is terribly insecure & external validation seeking & therefore low self esteem.

If she is as objectively beautiful as you say (and I have no reason to believe she isn’t) then she WOULD have the sought after top tier men vying for her. But she has zero self confidence and THAT is what reduces her prospects. Men see her as damaged and as “looks only”. And she is disillusioned because she thought all she had to be was pretty.

Wrong.

You got to have sass, personality, intelligence and a sweet nature to attract the top men. Above all that you’ve got to have high self esteem and confidence & moxy. A woman has to have standards. Great beauty cannot compensate for needy insecure behavior. No solid man wants to LTR needy. It’s exhausting and high value men have too much other stuff going on to pander to an insecure woman. Gets old fast.

Beautiful insecure women are everywhere. Yawn. Girls like this are a dime a dozen. High value men are NOT pumping and dumping truly high value women.

So her behavior undermines her looks, which is too bad. The faster she figures this out the healthier she can become. Plate her. Pay attention. You’ll find out just how accurate that is (and how needy/crazy she is)...
 

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Really? It seems 'RP' ideology has infiltrated YouTube, almost to the point it's borderline mainstream.
True, but a lot of it is grifting, blackpill and "women are terrible and hypergamous" etc. I think this stuff is allowed to permeate, without getting banned, because it further divides men and women (which is what the social engineers want). It gives fuel to the feminists who claim that all men are misogynist etc. Even Rollo Tomassi appears to have taken this road.

Very few redpill youtubers teach about acceptance of human nature. A lot of it is wallowing anger-porn for incels that ultimately advocates a MGTOW lifestyle. They also fail to blame men for the market, and instead seem to think that women owe them sex. I see it as almost all down to the failure of men that women are the way they are.
 

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Advice from the old lady:

Glad you banged a hot girl, OP. However the whole crux of the thread misses the point. She is terribly insecure & external validation seeking & therefore low self esteem.

If she is as objectively beautiful as you say (and I have no reason to believe she isn’t) then she WOULD have the sought after top tier men vying for her. But she has zero self confidence and THAT is what reduces her prospects. Men see her as damaged and as “looks only”. And she is disillusioned because she thought all she had to be was pretty.

Wrong.

You got to have sass, personality, intelligence and a sweet nature to attract the top men. Above all that you’ve got to have high self esteem and confidence & moxy. A woman has to have standards. Great beauty cannot compensate for needy insecure behavior. No solid man wants to LTR needy. It’s exhausting and high value men have too much other stuff going on to pander to an insecure woman. Gets old fast.

Beautiful insecure women are everywhere. Yawn. Girls like this are a dime a dozen. High value men are NOT pumping and dumping truly high value women.

So her behavior undermines her looks, which is too bad. The faster she figures this out the healthier she can become. Plate her. Pay attention. You’ll find out just how accurate that is (and how needy/crazy she is)...
Good post. However, almost all women are insecure. I think the natural configuration of woman is unhappiness and they are comfortable in that. Woman are uncomfortable with comfort, and comfortable with discomfort. This is why a bluepill man's goal of "making a woman happy" is such a bad goal. He is better off just accepting that women, by and large, are very unhappy and wired to be that way. Women are chaos, emotional, illogical - this all serves to place a naive man under her chaotic spell where she can rule over his emotional landscape (which ironically turns her off). The only solution is to have a man who is like an oak tree and an immovable rock who is not susceptible to her chaotic hurricane. This is Frame, and a "confident" woman who has her own frame is a recipe for disaster because she doesn't actually want a man who she feels confident around. This puts her into masculine energy. She wants a man who she can submit to (if he is worthy). Submission to a worthy man puts her into feminine energy.

This is ancient knowledge that goes right back to the story of Genesis.
 

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Good post. However, almost all women are insecure. I think the natural configuration of woman is unhappiness and they are comfortable in that. Woman are uncomfortable with comfort, and comfortable with discomfort. This is why a bluepill man's goal of "making a woman happy" is such a bad goal. He is better off just accepting that women, by and large, are very unhappy and wired to be that way. Women are chaos, emotional, illogical - this all serves to place a naive man under her chaotic spell where she can rule over his emotional landscape (which ironically turns her off). The only solution is to have a man who is like an oak tree and an immovable rock who is not susceptible to her chaotic hurricane. This is Frame, and a "confident" woman who has her own frame is a recipe for disaster because she doesn't actually want a man who she feels confident around. This puts her into masculine energy. She wants a man who she can submit to (if he is worthy). Submission to a worthy man puts her into feminine energy.

This is ancient knowledge that goes right back to the story of Genesis.
Agree. Thusly your post illustrates exactly why when a truly self assured objectively beautiful woman comes into a man’s sphere she is irresistibly alluring. She’s THAT much of an anomaly; that rare. That outside the norm, an outlier. That magnetic & intriguing. And she both knows it and owns it but without coming off as a snot. She’s utterly real. And she will have more great options at any given time than she can entertain. Which hones her already high standards.

That’s the girl who knocks the playboys out of their boots. And they might come along once or twice in a man’s lifetime.
 

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Agree. Thusly your post illustrates exactly why when a truly self assured objectively beautiful woman comes into a man’s sphere she is irresistibly alluring. She’s THAT much of an anomaly; that rare. That outside the norm, an outlier. That magnetic & intriguing. And she both knows it and owns it but without coming off as a snot. She’s utterly real. And she will have more great options at any given time than she can entertain. Which hones her already high standards.

That’s the girl who knocks the playboys out of their boots. And they might come along once or twice in a man’s lifetime.
^^^
Is this really what she thinks of herself? Lol.
 

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True, but a lot of it is grifting, blackpill and "women are terrible and hypergamous" etc. I think this stuff is allowed to permeate, without getting banned, because it further divides men and women (which is what the social engineers want). It gives fuel to the feminists who claim that all men are misogynist etc. Even Rollo Tomassi appears to have taken this road.

Very few redpill youtubers teach about acceptance of human nature. A lot of it is wallowing anger-porn for incels that ultimately advocates a MGTOW lifestyle. They also fail to blame men for the market, and instead seem to think that women owe them sex. I see it as almost all down to the failure of men that women are the way they are.
Definitely agree on the grifting. I for one am tired of hustlers trying to sell me their dating programs.
 

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^^^
Is this really what she thinks of herself? Lol.
Yes. But it is also and more importantly who I actually am and what others think of me. It is not false bravado. What good would it do anyone to share the above perspective unless I am as stated?

That is a recent photo of me as my avatar. Unretouched, at age 50. I still look the same.

It does nobody any good for me to make false statements here.
 

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Agree. Thusly your post illustrates exactly why when a truly self assured objectively beautiful woman comes into a man’s sphere she is irresistibly alluring. She’s THAT much of an anomaly; that rare. That outside the norm, an outlier. That magnetic & intriguing. And she both knows it and owns it but without coming off as a snot. She’s utterly real. And she will have more great options at any given time than she can entertain. Which hones her already high standards.

That’s the girl who knocks the playboys out of their boots. And they might come along once or twice in a man’s lifetime.
I hear ya. I had elements of that in my most recent Ex. She's the only girl I ever got severe oneitis for. She absolutely smoked me. It was strange though... She was quite insecure when I met her, but her confidence grew when she was with me. I think I helped her to resolve some of her demons and sources of insecurity, and eventually I created a monster i.e. A woman who wasn't insecure anymore and who I couldn't control.
 

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I hear ya. I had elements of that in my most recent Ex. She's the only girl I ever got severe oneitis for. She absolutely smoked me. It was strange though... She was quite insecure when I met her, but her confidence grew when she was with me. I think I helped her to resolve some of her demons and sources of insecurity, and eventually I created a monster i.e. A woman who wasn't insecure anymore and who I couldn't control.
Well we all grow and evolve. Sometimes we outgrow our partner. Sometimes our partner outgrows us. Commitment is another topic entirely, but growing alongside someone and yet sticking it out is the essence and value of committment. It’s uneven. It’s uncomfortable. But it’s got value. Kinda hate to give up the masterpiece you had a hand in creating. Ya know?
 

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Yes. But it is also and more importantly who I actually am and what others think of me. It is not false bravado. What good would it do anyone to share the above perspective unless I am as stated?

That is a recent photo of me as my avatar. Unretouched, at age 50. I still look the same.

It does nobody any good for me to make false statements here.
Glamour shots never show what a person actually looks like. Especially when they have their face contorted into weird poses like you do. You are actually presenting a false impression by posting that, and that's not even to mention all the makeup, etc.

And don't you think it's a little pathetic to go around bragging about how "good" you supposedly "look"? That's the behavior of a toddler.

There is no such thing as objective "beauty," because it's ALWAYS an opinion.
 
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