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I start to believe that tattoos are a good benchmark to measure women and cultures

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Good topic OP and i agree.

You can’t fault a woman too much in this day and age for having a small concealable tattoo of a relative or a loved one’s name, birthday, etc. to preserve their memory in her skin.

But more than that and she’s psychologically and/or emotionally damaged, did it because other females are, thinks it makes her edgy, independent and attractive, or a combination of the 3. At the end of the day, women with tattoos are rarely long term relationship material and men should be thankful that these damaged women make it easy for us to spot them.



Also agree 100%. This topic has been talked about before on here and the consensus (from men with alot of experience) is that she will always be worse as a long-term option, compared to women who will give you some resistance. Note i didn't say deliberately make you wait in a manner of playing a game, the key is to see progress. Kiss on first date, heavy makeout session on date 2, sex on date 3. Something like that is a sign of quality.
A woman who doesn't put out the first night will pretty much always make for a better girlfriend, all else being equal.
Why that is i have no clue but maybe it's a sign high amount of self-respect, confidence and good rolemodels growing up. Traits found in high quality women.
Totally agree, she denies sex its a sign of low interest or manipulation while she gives you everything soon its a sign or sexual promiscuity and impulsive behaviour and both cases are a red flag.

The good one is the one that gives you enough intimacy to show you that she cares and likes you but makes some resistance and needs to progress time after time.

It shows that she values herself and is not used to fvck around and most of all can self control.

Girls with tattoos and easy lays both share an impulsive attitude and low self control which are both terrible sign to build anything serious.

Plus girls who fvcked around are basically unable to bond with a man.
 

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Totally agree, she denies sex its a sign of low interest or manipulation while she gives you everything soon its a sign or sexual promiscuity and impulsive behaviour and both cases are a red flag.

The good one is the one that gives you enough intimacy to show you that she cares and likes you but makes some resistance and needs to progress time after time.

It shows that she values herself and is not used to fvck around and most of all can self control.

Girls with tattoos and easy lays both share an impulsive attitude and low self control which are both terrible sign to build anything serious.

Plus girls who fvcked around are basically unable to bond with a man.
You still have to have some sense of forgiveness if she otherwise seems to be an all right girl, not only because it makes no sense to reject a girl for desiring you as we have already said, but also because girls get conflicting messages too about how soon to have sex. She might think that if she doesn't fvck you quickly you will reject her for example. Or she might be submissive to you and fvcks you because she is following your escalation lead, if you reject her then then you will punish her for being submissive to you.

Of course if she's a walking red flag then the case is obvious. But my point is to evaluate her as a person too and the context between you, don't just throw girls away or accept them unquestionably for a tunnelvisioned reason (the same tunnelvision is behind guys who think that just because she made him wait, that's who she is with all guys and she's a so called "good woman", then the mask comes off and she's actually toxic).

But maybe this perspective is colored by my own attitude. I just care about whether she desires and respects me and she's compatible with me or not, I find in the real world I'm not very hung up on sex itself.
 
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Also agree 100%. This topic has been talked about before on here and the consensus (from men with alot of experience) is that she will always be worse as a long-term option, compared to women who will give you some resistance. Note i didn't say deliberately make you wait in a manner of playing a game, the key is to see progress. Kiss on first date, heavy makeout session on date 2, sex on date 3. Something like that is a sign of quality.
A woman who doesn't put out the first night will pretty much always make for a better girlfriend, all else being equal.
Why that is i have no clue but maybe it's a sign high amount of self-respect, confidence and good rolemodels growing up. Traits found in high quality women.
There isn't that much difference between sex on date 1 and sex on date 3. When you have sex with someone on a 3rd date, you've maybe spent 6-8 hours of your life together. That's not that much time. Those 3 dates have probably occurred in less than a 2 week time frame.

There is a lot of emphasis placed upon getting to the bang as quick as possible. That has a high probability of affecting relational outcomes.

Totally agree, she denies sex its a sign of low interest or manipulation while she gives you everything soon its a sign or sexual promiscuity and impulsive behaviour and both cases are a red flag.

The good one is the one that gives you enough intimacy to show you that she cares and likes you but makes some resistance and needs to progress time after time.

It shows that she values herself and is not used to fvck around and most of all can self control.

Girls with tattoos and easy lays both share an impulsive attitude and low self control which are both terrible sign to build anything serious.

Plus girls who fvcked around are basically unable to bond with a man.
I am not pleased when a woman with a big tattoo or tattoos doesn't fucck me on the first or second date. I can think of 2 instances from swipe apps where I knew going into the date that the woman had some sizable tattoos, she didn't put out on the first date, and there was no second date. I thought her tattoos and willingness to get together were a sign that I was going to get the bang in short order.

Almost any woman, tattoos or not, who is still available after her late 20s usually has a notch count high enough to make putting a ring on it a really bad idea. In general, the mating marketplace now is so bad that a 2-5 year relationship that is mostly good and produces no kids is a good outcome that limits downsides.
 

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They know that you cant leave them if you are married unless you are willing to pay their weight in gold...and their weight usually becomes a lot after the ring.
You are never stuck with a woman. I dont think that way.
marry a woman and within two years you cant really tell what she becomes.
Shes always a reflection of the man. More so then we are led to believe. IMO
 

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She might think that if she doesn't fvck you quickly you will reject her for example. Or she might be submissive to you and fvcks you because she is following your escalation lead, if you reject her then then you will punish her for being submissive to you.
A woman with confidence who values her body will not think this way, that is indicative of an insecure woman with low self esteem.

Since women are gatekeepers to sex, the smartest, healthiest ones realise its value and will not put out immediately. Nowadays your ordinary western promiscuous woman doesn't realise this and puts zero value on sex, or her body, just as the nice guy doesn't realise the power he holds as the gatekeeper to a relationship with a woman and almost tries to force himself into one, making him lower quality in the eyes of women.
 

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Where tattos are abundant it means that social control and self control are weak with all the known conseguences.

Im not paying attention to men with tats, they are not a benchmark of social health for the simple fact that men by nature need to violate rules and stability in order to succeed.

What I observe instead is that countries and cultures where women have abundant tats are usually broken or in the process of breaking in their base.
Its hard to deny a clear connection between tats, impulsivity and promiscuity outside relationships and such things require society to lose any control on their women with all the conseguences that we know.

Im mostly comparing western and estern european women, I was used to find tats here and there while dealing with brits girls but in the last 3-4 years they begun to be epidemic even among french and southern european women...I start to see some even among few polish ones.

Polish girls dont usually have as many as italians or germans and surely not as many as brits.

Girls from belarus, ukraine and russia are clean from tats and piercing and guess what while they dont surely wait marriage to fvck around they still filter very carefully the men who have access to their intimacy.

If you are a decent man with a work and behave correctly you have a shot with average girls there, not happening anymore in western europe.

In Poland I see young kids going to the cinema with their fathers or doing sport togheter, cant recall the last time I saw it in britain unless the mother was there too and even then quite rare.

Cant really tell "why" yet in my opinion its a good sign to analyze the environment you find yourself in.

Hey maybe Im getting old but my best experiences with women in the last years all came from clean countries with clean women.
When I was a very young man, only bikers and enlisted servicemen had tattoos. Sometime in the early 1990s, sorority girls started getting tattoos, and they haven't been cool, ever since.

I still don't think anything of men with tats, as long as they aren't sleeved, and don't have them on their faces, necks, or hands. But, i still don't think any man who isn't a biker or enlisted serviceman has any business getting a tattoo, and certainly has no business getting more heavily tatted than a self-respecting biker, soldier, sailor, or marine would wear.

Chicks with tats are just gross.
 
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Riiight. The worst sex I had so far was with female with tats. It was only woman I with tats I had sex with.
You have a sample size problem clearly...and in a later post I actually said I should have restated that as the more tats the more adventurous the sex...I have had really amazing sex with a few women with no tats but they are usually less adventurous and not into things like anal and choking etc...
 

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You have a sample size problem clearly...and in a later post I actually said I should have restated that as the more tats the more adventurous the sex...I have had really amazing sex with a few women with no tats but they are usually less adventurous and not into things like anal and choking etc...
The girl with tats gave me "WTF R U DOING?" look when I tried to have rough sex with her. Never happened to me with other chicks. Just sayin'. It can however be sample size problem as you said OR she just had tats because she was so damaged thus her reaction.
 

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A woman with confidence who values her body will not think this way, that is indicative of an insecure woman with low self esteem.

Since women are gatekeepers to sex, the smartest, healthiest ones realise its value and will not put out immediately. Nowadays your ordinary western promiscuous woman doesn't realise this and puts zero value on sex, or her body, just as the nice guy doesn't realise the power he holds as the gatekeeper to a relationship with a woman and almost tries to force himself into one, making him lower quality in the eyes of women.
Yeah that may be true.

Imo the saying that "women are gatekeepers to sex, men nare gatekeepers to relationships" is WRONG. What's true is that apex men are gatekeepers to relationships, but ordinary men? h3ll no.
 

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The girl with tats gave me "WTF R U DOING?" look when I tried to have rough sex with her. Never happened to me with other chicks. Just sayin'. It can however be sample size problem as you said OR she just had tats because she was so damaged thus her reaction.
She had to be in control?
 

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My intuition told me at that point that someone had hurt her or even raped her - she explicitly asked me with cold voice "umm what are you doing?". Yes, with that girl was no spanking, hard-phucking etc. it was very boring sex.
It could be that is how she saw you, so she had you compartamentalized into "boring" sex. When you tried to have sex like you really have it, she said "what are you doing?", so you will get back in your place.
 

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You still have to have some sense of forgiveness if she otherwise seems to be an all right girl, not only because it makes no sense to reject a girl for desiring you as we have already said, but also because girls get conflicting messages too about how soon to have sex. She might think that if she doesn't fvck you quickly you will reject her for example. Or she might be submissive to you and fvcks you because she is following your escalation lead, if you reject her then then you will punish her for being submissive to you.

Of course if she's a walking red flag then the case is obvious. But my point is to evaluate her as a person too and the context between you, don't just throw girls away or accept them unquestionably for a tunnelvisioned reason (the same tunnelvision is behind guys who think that just because she made him wait, that's who she is with all guys and she's a so called "good woman", then the mask comes off and she's actually toxic).

But maybe this perspective is colored by my own attitude. I just care about whether she desires and respects me and she's compatible with me or not, I find in the real world I'm not very hung up on sex itself.
why? there is a lot of woman, having a lot of veting is not a issue, at least you have standards, I was alwyas turned off by tattoos, and always used that as a veting, having fun with one ok, dating serious one no way, plus I always see this and looks like she is dirty
 
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