I feel sorry for women

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I went out last night had a great time. Met a few really intelligent girls. Me and my friend went home with a few. I didn't get lucky he did though. But I was talking to these girls and one thing stood out to me. The sexual revolution has paralyzed them. We should feel sorry for them.

This really attractive chick explained that its very difficult to find a guy that has all the qualities they want. Either he is perfect on paper, but it boring as hell. Or is exciting as hell, but can't keep a roof over his head. Its like we always say in the manosphere about how you can't find stability and excitement in the same guy. Its too rare.

Its easy to condemn them as spoiled brats but be empathetic for a second. Women are highly emotional and indecisive by nature. You can't give a creature like this unlimited choice. Its borderline evil. Its criminal. Its like over feeding your goldfish. They are designed to eat until they explode. Or like putting a child in a candy store. They can't help but to ruin themselves with choice.

This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
 

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I went out last night had a great time. Met a few really intelligent girls. Me and my friend went home with a few. I didn't get lucky he did though. But I was talking to these girls and one thing stood out to me. The sexual revolution has paralyzed them. We should feel sorry for them.

This really attractive chick explained that its very difficult to find a guy that has all the qualities they want. Either he is perfect on paper, but it boring as hell. Or is exciting as hell, but can't keep a roof over his head. Its like we always say in the manosphere about how you can't find stability and excitement in the same guy. Its too rare.

Its easy to condemn them as spoiled brats but be empathetic for a second. Women are highly emotional and indecisive by nature. You can't give a creature like this unlimited choice. Its borderline evil. Its criminal. Its like over feeding your goldfish. They are designed to eat until they explode. Or like putting a child in a candy store. They can't help but to ruin themselves with choice.

This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
Good post. Addiction, in all its manifestations, is the new norm today. The old moral code was what held it at bay. Without a moral code, people today are largely defenseless blown this way and that.

And I think at the heart of a moral code, as opposed to puritanical repression, is a drive toward order and unity... not only within our own psyche, but in society as a whole.
 

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Its a bit difficult to empathize with anyone with too many choices, but that doesn't stop one from understanding that said conundrum exists. I'll tell you from personal experience that women want nothing to do with a guy who is struggling in any shape, even if its fighting the good fight. (I am starting a company, and changed careers effectively downgrading a lot in my life) They pigeonhole themselves , sometimes, into getting into the same relationships over and over and don't seem to have the capacity to change. Some people do have said capacity, but it has to be a conscience effort on their part - it takes a lot to admit ones outlook on something is flawed and needs to change.
 

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They pigeonhole themselves , sometimes, into getting into the same relationships over and over and don't seem to have the capacity to change. Some people do have said capacity, but it has to be a conscience effort on their part - it takes a lot to admit ones outlook on something is flawed and needs to change.
You share a viewpoint similar to my friends viewpoint on this topic. He doesn't fault them for being confused. He faults them for not personally evolving or improving. I am a New Agey type of guy. According to my spiritual believes one of the main goals of life is to fix your flaws in order to be able to reincarnate out of this plane of existence. So self improvement via knowledge is huge.
 

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I went out last night had a great time. Met a few really intelligent girls. Me and my friend went home with a few. I didn't get lucky he did though. But I was talking to these girls and one thing stood out to me. The sexual revolution has paralyzed them. We should feel sorry for them.

This really attractive chick explained that its very difficult to find a guy that has all the qualities they want. Either he is perfect on paper, but it boring as hell. Or is exciting as hell, but can't keep a roof over his head. Its like we always say in the manosphere about how you can't find stability and excitement in the same guy. Its too rare.

Its easy to condemn them as spoiled brats but be empathetic for a second. Women are highly emotional and indecisive by nature. You can't give a creature like this unlimited choice. Its borderline evil. Its criminal. Its like over feeding your goldfish. They are designed to eat until they explode. Or like putting a child in a candy store. They can't help but to ruin themselves with choice.

This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
This is very true. Women are monogamous by nature and their DNA. Always have been, always will. The biology of what attracts males and females has not changed in 10,000+ years. Though some women cater to many beta male orbiters, I think it's because they cannot find ONE GOOD man to be with. To some degree, they do like the attention.

Yes, there are more and more Cluster B and all-out crazy women on the market today because of the breakdown of the nuclear family and all-around good parenting. This has created legions of "damaged" women that we hear most often about on SS. But, they are also the exception and minority on a percentage basis. Plus, most women under 30 are just plain immature, so expecting anything "adult" from them is a long shot at best.

Dating multiple men and never committing to one does go against their programming. It was not biologically advantageous for a woman to be out having sex with as many men as possible. No, they are "designed" to be monogamous and raise offspring--in any species. Sure, society had muddied the water with dating apps and social media but its' effects are fleeting for women.

In the end, masculinity (for women) and femininity (for men) still rules our thinking and the laws of attraction.
 
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I see the point about “stable” versus “exciting.” We all know exactly what “stable” means. But what exactly do women mean by a guy being “exciting?”

(I’m usually have LOTS of empathy for many kinds of people and their various circumstances/situations, but when women brand responsible and stable guys as “boring,” my empathy well starts to run a bit dry.)
 

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I see the point about “stable” versus “exciting.” We all know exactly what “stable” means. But what exactly do women mean by a guy being “exciting?”

(I’m usually have LOTS of empathy for many kinds of people and their various circumstances/situations, but when women brand responsible and stable guys as “boring,” my empathy well starts to run a bit dry.)
Let me play devils advocate for a second. How many cool guys do you know? Cool as in well rounded. Secure, chill, funny, good people etc. Probably not many. Sosuave is the upper echelons of self aware men and even on this site we have weirdos. I am sorry to say that many men these days have some sort of personality disorder. It is hard to find chill cool guys. Do you expect a women to stay with the average man? Would you date the average guy if you were a woman?

Again I am playing devils advocate but I am trying to make a thought experiment. How many men do you think are actually dateable? Don't take into account money. I mean in terms of coolness and emotional maturity. It takes a lot of work in order to become calm, secure and cool. SoSuave has helped me a lot on that voyage but most men don't want to put in the work to get there.

The girls main gripe against the stable guy was that he was too rigid and emotionally unavailable. His jokes were also kind of dry and corny. He was basically a dad type of guy that made dad jokes. Think about the perfect beta provider. A working stiff type. He loved her, made great money, stable job, but he was a slightly cooler Ned Flanders. Would you want to be with a guy like that?
 

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Let me play devils advocate for a second. How many cool guys do you know? Cool as in well rounded. Secure, chill, funny, good people etc. Probably not many. Sosuave is the upper echelons of self aware men and even on this site we have weirdos. I am sorry to say that many men these days have some sort of personality disorder. It is hard to find chill cool guys. Do you expect a women to stay with the average man? Would you date the average guy if you were a woman?

Again I am playing devils advocate but I am trying to make a thought experiment. How many men do you think are actually dateable? Don't take into account money. I mean in terms of coolness and emotional maturity. It takes a lot of work in order to become calm, secure and cool. SoSuave has helped me a lot on that voyage but most men don't want to put in the work to get there.

The girls main gripe against the stable guy was that he was too rigid and emotionally unavailable. His jokes were also kind of dry and corny. He was basically a dad type of guy that made dad jokes. Think about the perfect beta provider. A working stiff type. He loved her, made great money, stable job, but he was a slightly cooler Ned Flanders. Would you want to be with a guy like that?
Pook had a great line way back in the day about how he came to SS looking for love but later found LIFE. I can say that I've had a similar situation. I came here wanting to learn how to find the girl of my dreams and settle down and be happy ever after. But if you really do embrace this journey of self improvement you find that your desire and hunger for life and living the best life you can far outweighs your need and desire for a woman in your life, which ironically is what attracts them. Basically you want to be successful but have an edge about you, something beta providers don't have. If you study the greatest leaders of all time, in business, entertainment, sports, etc - you'll notice they all have that edge. They're successful but you can tell they've got grit and an outlook on life that only comes from having been through some sh*t and come out on the other side. Yes, it's hard to be the perfect combination of alpha/beta for a woman but I've noticed that it's those men who truly embrace the bettering one's self mindset throughout their entire lives and apply it more so to their entire life in every aspect and not just women are the ones who most closely meet that perfect man definition. But again, they're not doing it for anyone other than themselves.
 

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Pook had a great line way back in the day about how he came to SS looking for love but later found LIFE. I can say that I've had a similar situation. I came here wanting to learn how to find the girl of my dreams and settle down and be happy ever after. But if you really do embrace this journey of self improvement you find that your desire and hunger for life and living the best life you can far outweighs your need and desire for a woman in your life, which ironically is what attracts them. Basically you want to be successful but have an edge about you, something beta providers don't have.
Couldn't have said it better. I agree man. But that journey you speak of is lost to most men. It is painful and requires a lot of honest self reflection and hard work. Who wants to go through that? Struggle can be a beautiful thing. The only way we grow is through pain.
 

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Think about all of the guys that you know. How many would you classify as stand up guys. How many would you say are actually secure in themselves? Many men have insecurity issues that lead them to be braggarts, one-uppers, etc. Many men are looking to steal from you, many men will have sex with your girl behind your back. Many guys don't know anything about the social engineers that run the world. Many men have issues with envy and are hyper competitive. We can demonize women all we want but men are no bag of roses either. I know about 12 guys that I would call "stand up" men. These are the guys that I admire. The rest are unaware idiots.
 

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It is painful .
That's an understatement. But I've found that if you choose to muscle through, life starts getting easier and more enjoyable. Now by easier I don't mean less challenging, I mean that you get stronger and start seeing your hard work pay off in the sense of different skillsets acquired, stronger mental health and endurance, different (more optimal) reactions from people, etc. You know what I'm talking about.
 

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Think about all of the guys that you know. How many would you classify as stand up guys. How many would you say are actually secure in themselves? Many men have insecurity issues that lead them to be braggarts, one-uppers, etc. Many men are looking to steal from you, many men will have sex with your girl behind your back. Many guys don't know anything about the social engineers that run the world. Many men have issues with envy and are hyper competitive. We can demonize women all we want but men are no bag of roses either. I know about 12 guys that I would call "stand up" men. These are the guys that I admire. The rest are unaware idiots.
Look at some of the personalities on this site! They are all here.
 

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I went out last night had a great time. Met a few really intelligent girls. Me and my friend went home with a few. I didn't get lucky he did though. But I was talking to these girls and one thing stood out to me. The sexual revolution has paralyzed them. We should feel sorry for them.

This really attractive chick explained that its very difficult to find a guy that has all the qualities they want. Either he is perfect on paper, but it boring as hell. Or is exciting as hell, but can't keep a roof over his head. Its like we always say in the manosphere about how you can't find stability and excitement in the same guy. Its too rare.

Its easy to condemn them as spoiled brats but be empathetic for a second. Women are highly emotional and indecisive by nature. You can't give a creature like this unlimited choice. Its borderline evil. Its criminal. Its like over feeding your goldfish. They are designed to eat until they explode. Or like putting a child in a candy store. They can't help but to ruin themselves with choice.

This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
poor women have to either choose funny but broke guy or rich but boring one, then they have all these fanboys on social media etc.

men often skip both requirements (money and funny personality) when they are dating so they can get laid.
 

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Could not agree more with the OP ... an emotional being would be tortured with so much choice.Imagine being an emotionally,indecisive being getting 300 messages from horny betas on Tinder every fvcking day,you would be like a dog chasing it's tail and never catching it.
 

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This girl had the look of defeat. She knew she was screwed. Once you bite that apple of choice it is difficult to go back. Look at how many guys have a porn addiction. That apple is too good. Its best to have never bitten it. Women have a real life porn addiction called social media and too much choice. They can't help it. This much choice can ruin any creature.
Son, you got dooped.

A lot of bishs be running through dudes when on top form SMV. When the milk goes bad, when bulking season kicks off, its baby fever time, and white picket fence. If not for declining aesthetics and fertility, it would be a free for all.

Her look of defeat is the by product of a society that gives women a get out of jail free card. Sloot gonna sloot when on top form. Fat as **** and 20s squandered running through bad boys. Now she is a victim.

TS sounds like the absolute biggest white knight and beta ever to grace the forum. I blame really low testosterone. Mate, you should get that checked out. Actually learn some game and lift weight to compensate for your test levels. If I had to guess, i would presume this was a woman posting.

You can feel sorry for these women. The real men will pull and smash. Mad?
 

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You share a viewpoint similar to my friends viewpoint on this topic. He doesn't fault them for being confused. He faults them for not personally evolving or improving. I am a New Agey type of guy. According to my spiritual believes one of the main goals of life is to fix your flaws in order to be able to reincarnate out of this plane of existence. So self improvement via knowledge is huge.
You say that's new age, but it's only new age here. The far east have been telling us this for c2000 years :)
 

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Are we talking about the top 5% of sloots, because I don't see all women getting this level of choice.

Why do we keep finding these women? Ironically, it's our own superficiality which produces theirs. Any chick with an instagram fan club...geez, these are model/stripper looks quality.

Look at who you are focussing on before you transpose her behaviour on 51% of the world population. My GF loves looking good but has about 5 followers? Why? She isn't a sloot. She is sexy as hell underneath, but what kind of woman courts male sexual attention online?
 

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Are we talking about the top 5% of sloots, because I don't see all women getting this level of choice.

Why do we keep finding these women? Ironically, it's our own superficiality which produces theirs. Any chick with an instagram fan club...geez, these are model/stripper looks quality.

Look at who you are focussing on before you transpose her behaviour on 51% of the world population. My GF loves looking good but has about 5 followers? Why? She isn't a sloot. She is sexy as hell underneath, but what kind of woman courts male sexual attention online?
Well if your girl had an online dating profile she would have countless offers. Even if she was on Tinder. So its not just the top 5%. Its even the average plain jane 6/10 that has a lot of guys after her.
 

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Great thread @Pandora but I think you're stretching the point now. Or maybe missed it. FB is saying that those girls are manufactured items. They spent countless hours on gym spa makeup hair etc. Because that's what their herd and Instagram and all the other attention whoring gurus told them to.

The good girls are too busy having a life. You can find them you just have to look in different places.

On the main topic your spot on. Not many guys percentage-wise seem to be able to be able to achieve a balance between Alpha douchebag and Mr boring beta. My goals this year r about learning languages investing overseas coping with the fact that we've been pushed up into the bloody a grade tennis leveraging one contract I've got with a bank to get another etc. Nothing to do with chicks and yet that's all guaranteed to put me in contact with plenty of chicks and give me plenty of opportunities to show my depth of knowledge and character as a man. At the end of the day we push self Improvement here because you only get one chance and as Socrates said the life unexamined is not worth living.
 
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