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@Glassguy should add his 2 cents. He simply withdraws his attention if a chick doesn’t play ball.

As others have said it’s really about valuing yourself first.

Comply or bye.
Hi @Be, thanks for your detailed responses. Much appreciated.

@Glassguy is a man I gather? Lol

Yes, I know very well how men feel about silence and distance and withdrawing attention.

Comply or bye!

And it does work (with women) as I said in my previous post.

My point was that what strategies and behaviors work on women, may not necessarily work on men. Silence and distance being one of them, again my experience.

There's a polarity, men and women are different and respond to different things.

Not only that, but in my experience, my boyfriends didn't always intend to be disrespectful, often times they didn't even realize they were being disrespectful!

So if my response were to go silent and distance myself, they're left wondering WTF, think I'm playing games and go distant themselves, which never resolved anything.

For me, I am a big communicator, and will voice my concerns calmly and rationally.

I think that's pretty standard among women, that we like to talk things through.

Problem is many women can become overly emotional and well, become a bit psycho (for lack of a better word) when voicing concerns, which isn't good either!

Which causes men to turn off when communicating.

But there's a way to communicate in a calm, rational, non-accusatory way that let's a man know you felt disrespected and it wasn't appreciated.. Or any other issue you're experiencing as a couple.

And like I said, my hubs appreciates that about me so much, that I don't employ 'comply or bye' or withdraw my attention when I'm troubled by something he said or did.

I talk to him. I let him in on what's happening with me so he knows. HE does same with me. It's also a great way to build intimacy between you..

I do understand the logic behind it though, it makes sense. I just always believed it was a 'masculine' thing, my dad would sometimes distance himself and withdraw, and I came to accept it. He was a great dad (may he RIP)..

But again, if silence and distance, withdrawing attention, comply or bye has worked with the men you have been involved with @Be, including your fiancé, then more power to ya, I mean that sincerely.

It just never worked well for me and my boyfriends, for reasons stated, that's all.

But I have a feeling given how different our natures are, we may attract a different type of man, which might explain our different experiences.

Possibly.

Doesn't matter, we all have our own style and what works for us as individuals and as a couple. :)
 
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Instead of focusing your energy on that, focus it in the right place, on yourself.

You have been toyed with because you present yourself to this woman or women as a man who is able to toyed with.

Instead of trying to humble them, which will do nothing to actually resolve this issue other than stroking your ego temporarily, work on becoming a man they would never think of toying with.

Bottom line is you teach people how to treat you and allow it to happen by allowing them to stay in your life without consequence if they don't treat you respectfully.

You present yourself as a man who isn't deserving of their respect. That is what you should be focused on changing, not some silly juvenile "revenge" on them.
 

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Do them the ultimate dishonor and ignore them. If you even wasted your time making this post to get back at them, they are worth your time. Your time is not worth them.
 

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This is a complete waste of time. If a Woman toys with you it's because...

A) YOU allowed it
B) She see's you as a Beta

I hardly had Women really "toy" with me and the ones that tried to, never heard from me again. I had plenty of other Women on deck.

If that time wasting Woman texted me with "Hey... Stranger" or "Hey, Haven't heard from you, what's up?" or any variation of those two... I would in fact reply but my replies are brutally direct as in "Hey, I haven't reached out because you didnt seem that into it and honestly I want to bend that ass over and fvck the sh*t outta you". I didn't give a F*CK!

Surprisingly some Women became extremely intrigued by this and I ended up having sex with them. The ones who said "Omg, that's so rude" or "Your an azzhole".. I left them unread and deleted. What's funny though, I'd continuously get texts a week or two later "Hey, are you ready to be nice?".... No reply from my end.

One chick I remember, I purposely "played" into her game but then ultimately got her to keep masturbating to me saying all kinds of sexual things to her like "I can't talk much because I'm about go meet up with another girl. Im going to spread her legs nice and wide and make her c*m multiple times, I wish you could sit back and watch while you play with your P*ssy". This Woman became obsessed with my sexapdes.

Many females are so full of it too and put up a phony facade. One girl I know know says she thinks porn is nasty, yet one time I had to use her iPhone because my phone was dead. I had to check something on google and when the address drop down shows up, it had P-Hub Dancing Bear.... So much for nasty huh :rolleyes: Hypocrite.

Sometimes you have to be extremely verbally bold with Women and stop playing into their manipulative webs.
 

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Doesn’t matter if it’s an unmoralistic act/ dark triad way. Do you guys now how to destroy women ego like that so they stop doing it in future with other guys?

women like that should be ultimately punished by guys, they are only trouble and you would at least do something good and spare the mental penetration for the next guys by doing that. It’s pretty weak to let them get away with that, somehow there should be a solution for this


i only know one way which is them submitting to a good guy and operating in his frame. But she had to be with a good guy in the first place and how likely is that to be happen? Unlikely.
Why should they be punished? It's not the women, it's YOU. Your behavior is weak. Shaming or admonishing women is weak behavior and once you react in these ways then she wins the frame game. You need to ACCEPT women for who they are and realize they are acting these ways towards YOU. This doesn't mean they act this way towards someone else.

You ever heard a successful womanizer complain about female nature? Nope. Because they accept and reap the benefits of it.
 

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Why should they be punished? It's not the women, it's YOU. Your behavior is weak. Shaming or admonishing women is weak behavior and once you react in these ways then she wins the frame game. You need to ACCEPT women for who they are and realize they are acting these ways towards YOU. This doesn't mean they act this way towards someone else.

You ever heard a successful womanizer complain about female nature? Nope. Because they accept and reap the benefits of it.
This is completely wrong and you missed the whole point. If it would be the case then promiscuous women wouldn’t exist. That and my behavior couldn’t be weak in the first place, because this happens only online. I get all the respect from women in reallife, but online is a whole other number. Women will behave entitled when they never felt your presence in reallife. That’s a fact, I know that, everyone knows that here. Passing **** tests, establishing boundaries, calling them out on their bs and walking away is definitely not weak my friend, so be careful with your accusations. The one who lose the frame is the one who emotionally reacts and that wasn’t me. Another point I’m adding here
 

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This is a complete waste of time. If a Woman toys with you it's because...

A) YOU allowed it
B) She see's you as a Beta

I hardly had Women really "toy" with me and the ones that tried to, never heard from me again. I had plenty of other Women on deck.

If that time wasting Woman texted me with "Hey... Stranger" or "Hey, Haven't heard from you, what's up?" or any variation of those two... I would in fact reply but my replies are brutally direct as in "Hey, I haven't reached out because you didnt seem that into it and honestly I want to bend that ass over and fvck the sh*t outta you". I didn't give a F*CK!

Surprisingly some Women became extremely intrigued by this and I ended up having sex with them. The ones who said "Omg, that's so rude" or "Your an azzhole".. I left them unread and deleted. What's funny though, I'd continuously get texts a week or two later "Hey, are you ready to be nice?".... No reply from my end.

One chick I remember, I purposely "played" into her game but then ultimately got her to keep masturbating to me saying all kinds of sexual things to her like "I can't talk much because I'm about go meet up with another girl. Im going to spread her legs nice and wide and make her c*m multiple times, I wish you could sit back and watch while you play with your P*ssy". This Woman became obsessed with my sexapdes.

Many females are so full of it too and put up a phony facade. One girl I know know says she thinks porn is nasty, yet one time I had to use her iPhone because my phone was dead. I had to check something on google and when the address drop down shows up, it had P-Hub Dancing Bear.... So much for nasty huh :rolleyes: Hypocrite.

Sometimes you have to be extremely verbally bold with Women and stop playing into their manipulative webs.
I’m extremely direct when it comes to disrespect, I also call them out on it in an controlled aggressive manner. It seems that they feel entitled to do it over text but never reallife. The girls who toy with me are the ones where I already demonstrated higher social value, they start to behave like irrational brats when I call them out
 

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I’m extremely direct when it comes to disrespect, I also call them out on it in an controlled aggressive manner. It seems that they feel entitled to do it over text but never reallife. The girls who toy with me are the ones where I already demonstrated higher social value, they start to behave like irrational brats when I call them out
Keep telling yourself that.
 

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Do them the ultimate dishonor and ignore them. If you even wasted your time making this post to get back at them, they are worth your time. Your time is not worth them.
yeah wanted to try something proactive/ active rather than passive (walking away & silence).
But I agree latter one is far more the better option, not worth to deal with them
 
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If that time wasting Woman texted me with "Hey... Stranger" or "Hey, Haven't heard from you, what's up?" or any variation of those two... I would in fact reply but my replies are brutally direct as in "Hey, I haven't reached out because you didnt seem that into it and honestly I want to bend that ass over and fvck the sh*t outta you". I didn't give a F*CK!

Surprisingly some Women became extremely intrigued by this and I ended up having sex with them. The ones who said "Omg, that's so rude" or "Your an azzhole".. I left them unread and deleted. What's funny though, I'd continuously get texts a week or two later "Hey, are you ready to be nice?".... No reply from my end.

One chick I remember, I purposely "played" into her game but then ultimately got her to keep masturbating to me saying all kinds of sexual things to her like "I can't talk much because I'm about go meet up with another girl. Im going to spread her legs nice and wide and make her c*m multiple times, I wish you could sit back and watch while you play with your P*ssy". This Woman became obsessed with my sexapdes.

Many females are so full of it too and put up a phony facade. One girl I know know says she thinks porn is nasty, yet one time I had to use her iPhone because my phone was dead. I had to check something on google and when the address drop down shows up, it had P-Hub Dancing Bear.... So much for nasty huh :rolleyes: Hypocrite.

Sometimes you have to be extremely verbally bold with Women and stop playing into their manipulative webs.
Isn't this messing with women who try to "toy" with you though?
 

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Right...

Women toy with you when you allow it.
It’s funny that you have difficulties to get the point. As soon as I realise a woman is toying with me I walk away, this is standard anytime it happens. This thread is based on how to proactively/actively encounter women who toy with you.
 
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Isn't this messing with women who try to "toy" with you though?
It is but it only works temporarily, I tried it out. They give in and later on it becomes a power play. It will be all about having power and not about dating, meeting up and so on. That’s also what I meant with demonstrating higher social value / you can play the game better then them


Ams made a video about that

 
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Isn't this messing with women who try to "toy" with you though?
It is but it's an attempt to knock aside the manipulation and reaching the main goal. SEX.

These Women are far from stupid. They know exactly what they're doing and that's using sex as a manipulation tool. They know for a fact that Men they toy with want to fvck them, so they use it to their advantage.

I know from the inside what Women do to Men because I regularly hang out with groups of Women and they show and tell me all.

  • Guy took one of them out to a nice dinner with drinks but she had no real plans with him after that. Basically used him for a "date when she was bored. Meanwhile he was texting her after that trying to get her out on a date again but she ignored.
  • Another guy texting different girl, she told him that she was going to sleep but in reality she was out in a bar with me and other girls.

Just two simple examples off the top of my head but the point is that when a guy is experiencing a Woman trying to "toy" with him, he can either ignore or "play" into it by being verbally bold by stating his TRUE intentions. Which a high percentage of the time is sex.

Again, Women aren't stupid. They know what they're doing. Sometimes they do it to see if you're Man enough to actually be verbally bold with her.

SEX = The ultimate motivator. Women know this and they know this well.

As a side note: This is why Women are intrigued by Men who have multiple Women because sex is no longer a valid or useful tool to manipulate with.

That'll be like trying to bribe Jeff Bezos with $1,000. That's like a penny to him.
 
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It is but it's an attempt to knock aside the manipulation and reaching the main goal. SEX.

These Women are far from stupid. They know exactly what they're doing and that's using sex as a manipulation tool. They know for a fact that Men they toy with want to fvck them, so they use it to their advantage.

I know from the inside what Women do to Men because I regularly hang out with groups of Women and they show and tell me all.

  • Guy took one of them out to a nice dinner with drinks but she had no real plans with him after that. Basically used him for a "date when she was bored. Meanwhile he was texting her after that trying to get her out on a date again but she ignored.
  • Another guy texting different girl, she told him that she was going to sleep but in reality she was out in a bar with me and other girls.

Just two simple examples off the top of my head but the point is that when a guy is experiencing a Woman trying to "toy" with him, he can either ignore or "play" into it by being verbally bold by stating his TRUE intentions. Which a high percentage of the time is sex.

Again, Women aren't stupid. They know what they're doing. Sometimes they do it to see if you're Man enough to actually be verbally bold with her.

SEX = The ultimate motivator. Women know this and they know this well.

As a side note: This is why Women are intrigued by Men who have multiple Women because sex is no longer a valid or useful tool to manipulate with.

That'll be like trying to bribe Jeff Bezos with $1,000. That's like a penny to him.
Yeah I call them out on their manipulations all the time and make clear that their games won’t work on me. I wouldn’t even dare to leave a single one out. But as I said this doesn’t work with every woman since they have options. And when you call them out most of them think they can’t control you, what scares them. You can also feel that they think like that hence their desire to power play you and when they have the power they would probably ghost you, which id never happen in the first place
 

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SEX = The ultimate motivator. Women know this and they know this well.
I agree - and you and I both know this as well. But given how important male motivation is to First World Society, you're not concerned about the bigger picture at all?
 

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yeah wanted to try something proactive/ active rather than passive (walking away & silence).
But I agree latter one is far more the better option, not worth to deal with them
If you actively try to get back at them, you are only giving them more power. It is just like when a girl gives you negative attention - you know you got through to them and are in their head.
 

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I agree - and you and I both know this as well. But given how important male motivation is to First World Society, you're not concerned about the bigger picture at all?
I don't understand, what do you mean as in the bigger picture?
 

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I love putting bossy - aggressive- masculine “I wanna be a man” women in their place. I have a three tiered strategy. The first is I play stupid, fake being submissive and, go along. I want to see how far they will stretch it. And make sure they are really this way and didn’t just have a one off moment. The second level is passive aggressive. Poke back at them without confrontation. That usually puts an end to it. It makes them realize that I am onto them without a direct confrontation. Since most of them are weak and insecure, they normally don’t want to deal with a man who might be more of a challenge than they are publicly willing to go at it with right now. But for the ones with the big egos, the third tier is to be blunt. Go right for the jugular and attack there insecurities. I slit it hard and knock them out quick from rapid blood (ego) loss. By this time they have disrespected me at least twice and they are not getting any further leniency. This generally push them into major depression. Thus resorting to the couch, calling in for work, eating bonbons, and hating me as much as or more than the ex they tried the same shyyt with who allegedly made them into the daemon that they are.
 
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