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No picture necessary. I don't even care if she is a ten. The way he's worshiping her, you'd think she was a billionaire supermodel who saved orphans from a fire.Robyn923b said:OP, most a pic and we'll tell you if she's really a ten, which I highly doubt.
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I agreed to see her at her work cafeteria because it's for "late dinner".... so no one will be there but just us (i think)... I thought maybe a good environment for kino'ing. But nevermind, I didn't go... because she got caught up and called me an hour late so I told her I already had dinner and we'll do it next time.Jeffst1980 said:Good advice here.
This is probably a classic rebound situation-- she's coming off a bad breakup and just wants to date a "nice guy" for validation. Don't let her make you into that "nice guy."
Wise move turning down the brother and sister date; now, text her and cancel this work cafeteria one. Only see her on YOUR terms, in environments where YOU are in control. She likely has plenty of friends in that work cafeteria that will drop by and make things awkward, and if you go it'll be another date without even a kiss.
Stop calling her a 10 and start treating her like a 6. She can't feel attraction to you if she feels that you are inferior to her, and, since she doesn't know you, she's taking her cues from you on this. The minute you start letting on that you're insecure, you're done for.
Invite her some place where you feel comfortable and have a bit of social proof- and don't compromise on this!! No dinners! No weird "family" dates!! If she wants to date you, it has to be on your terms.
Ramp up the kino and you'll find out where you stand--if she isn't resisting or pulling away, go for the kiss--you've got it. If she's resisting your kino, say that you have to be up early and cut the date short. Don't give her the option of friendzone.
I was actually engaged with a 7. The sex became boring to me. I woke up and realized, I can do better. And this is my adventure now.LoneWolf said:why even bother with 10's? they are bad headaches.
Ok, enough with whether she's a 10 or not. For me she is a 10 and for other people who met her. I'm just stating a fact. Let's not argue if it's true or not because I won't post her pic.satelliteparties said:This girl is probably just any other 7 you see at the club that thinks she's a 10 because of guys like the OP supplicating to her.
I was in love once with an attractive woman (that I actually kissed and fooled around with unlike the OP) and I never thought of her as a 10 or some mythical creature. In fact, I remember being on a date with her and writing down my number for our waitress. (We weren't official, just "seeing each other.")
This guy's problem extends far beyond this woman. There are three categories: Not bangable/dateable, bangable, and dateable. Simple as that.
Even if she likes him back, he's going to blow it by acting like some guy in a romantic comedy.
Cowboy1015 said:I am getting a vibe that she's into me...
So we went out for a dinner tonight. At dinner, she fed me a couple of times which is kinda weird (coz noone ever fed me in public). After dinner, I ramped up the kino; hold her hands, wrap my arms around her, really got close to her. I had to drop her at her office... then a kiss to her cheek as I left her. (Ok I could have gone to the lips but I chickened).
But anyhow, I'll see her again on Sunday for a movie date. I think I'm playing my cards right... there's definitely progress.
I am actually thinking of just taking her to my place to watch a movie.Warrior74 said:Skip the movie date. Either take her somewhere that reflects you and your personality, or invite her over to your place to watch a movie. It's time to fish or cut bait.
You've done dinner, don't go cliche on dinner and a movie. Blow her mind or get some behind. Either way, be bold.
You're doing good so far man. Good luck.
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three dates. Yah time to make a move.Cowboy1015 said:Ok let me straighten up something here. I think some of you here thinks I'm treating her like a 10. That I'm going crazy about her. That I will do everything to please her.
The craziest thing I've done so far for her is... read the DJ bible/book of pook, sign-up here, and started this thread. And I must say... the DJ bible and book of pook is highly recommended!
Things I have done with her so far:
1. a dinner date
2. an nba game date
3. picked her up from work for another dinner
I did not give her any gifts/flowers/etc.. (thanks for this advise)
I don't call/text her often... most of the time only to setup dates.
So I really think, so far, I am playing my cards right...
Of course Im the one who paid for it. I asked for the date. But you know, date money is not an issue here.Social_Leper said:Three dates, which you probably paid for, and what has she done for you? No wonder girls think their sh!t smells like roses. Not even a damn kiss. When her friends ask about you she is probably saying "Oh Cowboy? Well he's just a guy that takes me out and buys me things"
And yes paying for a meal more than once with a girl you haven't even kissed is on par with gifts/flowers. What has she done to earn this level of pampering apart from look pretty?? Sorry about this rant but it actually infuriates me when guys treat women like queens for no legitimate reason! If you don't think this is supplicating then you sir are in denial!