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How to get your "type" if you're at an initial disadvantage. (race/ethnicity/looks)

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I decided to make a guide for you guys since I wanted to contribute some advice to this forum, finally. So we all have types, some of us like hot blondes, some of us love a hot Latina, and some of us are into a crazy sexy Asian woman. Now sometimes, the stars line up and you're in a good spot. You just happen to have a "type" and women of that type happen to find men with your looks attractive, it's a match made in heaven.

Generally speaking, hot girls like men with a look that is different from theirs, for quick flings it is the case that "opposites attract".

Hot blondes love guys with dark hair, hot white girls with black hair prefer men with lighter hair, Latinas are not too into "brown" guys of any kind for quick flings, and you get the picture. So if you happen to be in that situation, great for you stop reading this thread now.

But let's say you've done that and you're in a situation where you have a "type" yet social barriers, perceptions, and those things don't work in your favor. You might like a Latina or raven-haired Euro girl with tanned skin but her friends prefer the blond viking over your Cristiano Ronaldo lookinazz. What do you do?

Whatever it is that women of the group your type is in, you are not on the favorable end of that. Whatever it is that is going on, it isn't favorable to you being balls deep in her, especially if she is your type. So what do you? Well Good Gao is here to help.

Accept it before anything, don't start fooling yourself.

Yeah, to be frankly honest with you, women are choosy about race and women from certain groups like certain kinds of men. A hot Latin girl for example prefers the whitest looking guys possible because that is valued in her culture. A hot blonde prefers guys with dark hair or darker men in general since blond haired men are too common to her. Don't start fooling yourself here, it is a denialism mindgame you are playing. No matter your race, you'll do well with certain races and cultures of women and horrible with others.

When you go against the grain and natural attraction trends, you will have to realize that women who are your "type" but from a group that normally does not go for a guy like you will have an ulterior motive. They might be in bed with you when all is said and done but these women would not have swiped right on you and likely have rejected you at a nightclub if you walked up to them.

Get good with the women you can get good with and be out with them.

Lonely Asian guy hitting the bars all alone? Not hot to the Asian girls he prefers.

Asian guy shows up to bar with a hot white girl? Asian girls want to fight for him and his attention.

I know, as an Asian guy, it is sad. In other words, get good with girls in general and practice being seen as the guy who can get girls to come out with him. I have an Arab friend that regularly has hot blondes come out with him, now Latinas and Arab girls who would have otherwise put this guy in a provider category at best have let him plow them away.

Most of all, some of the women you are seeing have friends and those friends might be of the type that you are into, win win. Those women tell those friends good things, you are set.

Go to places where escorts are legal and plow away at your type if you have the money.

Great way to psychologically get over it. One of my friends is a Latino guy who kills it with blondes but dark-haired white girls that he loves tend to pass him up. What did he do? Once he got rich, he said screw it slept with about 20 different escorts with that Megan Fox look. I cannot comment on how he does with those women now because it doesn't bother him anymore as to how he does. I think this is the best option because you can actually get it out of your mind for good.

Create situations where you have leverage over your "type" (location, wealth, etc.).

One of my friends is a Latino from the East Coast with a huge thing for dark-haired white girls, unfortunately, the area of the east coast he grew up in had a very high Italian population. For those who do not know Italian Americans well, they aren't too fond of minorities and the women hate darker guys of all types. As you can see, he was a severe disadvantage as an Aaron Hernandez lookalike with the kinds of girls he wanted.

My friend decided to stay in Romania for a year, needless to say, he has slept with a lot of hot white girls with dark hair as a result due to his American citizenship and naturally higher status. I recommend most guys do the same, key is to leverage your first world citizenship and natural status. I also recommend Seeking Arrangement.

Social circle status and other high status jobs that make you attractive to women are also an example of leverage.

If you have done the above enough, MAYBE approach.

The truth is, you are better off approaching women who are naturally inclined to go for you but if you have done enough of the above and still want to plow your type, just approach now that your head is more clear. You'll still do worse than you would with women who are naturally inclined to go for you but the **** wants what it wants. Just know that you cannot fight societal programming that women go through and you can only combat nature with the tools I have shown above, it won't be genuine though.

Some closing words and thoughts.

1. Remember, don't get attached, get your sex and bounce.

Plow her and bounce, she is not genuinely into you. You might plow that hot blonde as a Thor lookalike yourself but she wants a darker guy once you are off the bed. You might plow that hot Salma Hayek lookalike as some handsome Bollywood stud yourself but once you are off the bed, she is done with you and only slept with you for some ulterior motive. She won't make a good wife for you or anything, you wanted a taste of your type and you got it.

2. Even if you get it all out of your system, nature is what nature is.

You can sleep with 50 hot Latin girls as a brown guy yourself, not gonna change they fact that they are not too fond for brown guys. You just used status, leverage, and other ways to get your **** wet. Maybe you could have slept with a 100 hot blondes instead, who knows, but you got it wet.

3. See it as a transaction.

Whether you see an escort or not, as you go for women who naturally don't like men like you, they are doing it for ulterior motives. See it as you getting sex with your type and then forget about it. Get it out of your system.

I'll post more on this later.
 

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Does getting a bunch of reps in the leveraged position help when your back in the hard environment?
 

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Does getting a bunch of reps in the leveraged position help when your back in the hard environment?
When it comes to women... we all have to operate from a leveraged position. She has to be attracted to you... then her interest has to rise with your behavior. You can fvck up somethign that is promising... but no amount of 'effort' on the man's part can get a chick interested in her if she isn't attracted.

Leverage is that she is attracted. And the simple truth is there is NO WAY you know this unless you make an effort to get her one-on-one.

As far as the OP's comments about race... well I'm not sure I believe that, but there is some evidence that there is a genetic encoded tendency that we human beings are attracted to genetic difference, and there is some scientific evidence that children born from mixed race parents, tend to inherit the positive aspects of both races, so children born from such union's, tend to be better versions of human.

Interracial relationships are seriously impacted by social conditioning, and racial stereotyping. Those looking for these kinds of hook-ups, you have to overcome these social and emotional barriers. If a white women is brought up in a racist family, it is HIGHLY unlikely she will get with a man of different ethnicity, regardless of how attracted she is to him, or how much 'game' he has. I dated a Japanese woman back in the late 80s, and she didn't tell any friends of family about this because her people would shame her for dating a 'Gaijin". Understanding this, there is no way to know what their proclivities might be unless you try to make something happen. Make the offer... if she balks... move on... and do not worry about why she's pushed back... she's not buying what you are selling (you have no leverage) it doesn't matter why because it's a waste of emotional energy you should direct at women that like you.
 

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@RangerMIke

I see you're from the good ole south brother so you'll want to really listen to what I am about to tell you. Racism and bigotry from the in circle will not stop a woman from pursuing a man. You'd be shocked at how many sorority girls at SEC schools have mixed up with some kind of minority, particularly black men on football teams, even though their parents and family are racist.

Rather, I think the men women go for are a mix of social desirability in their culture as well as media perception. For example, Latinas really love blond-haired white guys. Part of it is because of the caste system in their culture where whites are seen as supreme, the other part is that white guys with blond haired do get portrayed in flattering ways by western media, and when you add the two together you have an easy situation. Now throw in that latinas themselves desperately want to be white and you have the situation you have.

What creates a lot of tension and struggles is not really racism, it is the following:
  • Pity towards men of certain races rather than hate (usually men of their own group really)
  • Taking men of certain backgrounds for granted
  • Extreme obsession towards men of one look to where any other kind of look is seen as insignificant (ie: Latinas and blond guys)
So my thread was aimed more at winning women from such cultures where those things might be the case.

While there is no explicit racism towards say Arabs in the Hispanic world, the fact of the matter is that Arab men will still have a rough time gaming Latinas.
 

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I disagree with op on this, not the necessarily the content but also overall approach to women. I do agree that culture and race are a factor in seduction. And these can be an advantage or a disadvantage depending on the situation.

However, when it comes to content I disagree because.

When women allow to get seduced I don't think your hair colour is the deal breaker.

Going to a less economically developed country to get sex is extremely desperate and weak.

Paying for sex to get better at getting sex is like a boxer paying his opponent to lose a fight in order to get good at winning fights. You aren't getting any better. Sex is the result, and the result will take care of it's self if you handle your self right.

You don't need any leverage to get women, YOU ARE THE LEVERAGE. It's you that women get intimate with not your citizenship.

I disagree with the approach because:

It goes against the most important lessons learned here on sosuave. And these are:

Be the prize. If you view yourself as a lesser man because some women prefer different types of men. You are no longer the prize in you mind.

Don't let women's opinions affect your behaviour. This isn't about them, its about you. You care too much about what women think of you. If you a the prize you wouldn't care what they think of you.

If you build it they will come. Rather than relocating to some other poorer country to get laid. Focus on you, focus on your life that you have. Improve it, make it better. Rather than spending money on prostitutes, spend that money on a gym membership or some courses to improve you career or to develop your interests. In other words invest in your self and then see what women are attracted to you and start selecting the ones that intrigue you the most.

If that don't help that means you need to improve your social skills, and just like any skill, it gets better with practice.
 
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@RangerMIkeI see you're from the good ole south brother so you'll want to really listen to what I am about to tell you. Racism and bigotry from the in circle will not stop a woman from pursuing a man. You'd be shocked at how many sorority girls at SEC schools have mixed up with some kind of minority, particularly black men on football teams, even though their parents and family are racist.
I did not say that it was impossible. What I said is if a woman was raised in a racist family it will be hard. I do agree the South has changed a great deal and this isn't as much of a problem anymore. But the only way you know is if you try.
 

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When it comes to women... we all have to operate from a leveraged position. She has to be attracted to you... then her interest has to rise with your behavior. You can fvck up somethign that is promising... but no amount of 'effort' on the man's part can get a chick interested in her if she isn't attracted.

Leverage is that she is attracted. And the simple truth is there is NO WAY you know this unless you make an effort to get her one-on-one.

As far as the OP's comments about race... well I'm not sure I believe that, but there is some evidence that there is a genetic encoded tendency that we human beings are attracted to genetic difference, and there is some scientific evidence that children born from mixed race parents, tend to inherit the positive aspects of both races, so children born from such union's, tend to be better versions of human.

Interracial relationships are seriously impacted by social conditioning, and racial stereotyping. Those looking for these kinds of hook-ups, you have to overcome these social and emotional barriers. If a white women is brought up in a racist family, it is HIGHLY unlikely she will get with a man of different ethnicity, regardless of how attracted she is to him, or how much 'game' he has. I dated a Japanese woman back in the late 80s, and she didn't tell any friends of family about this because her people would shame her for dating a 'Gaijin". Understanding this, there is no way to know what their proclivities might be unless you try to make something happen. Make the offer... if she balks... move on... and do not worry about why she's pushed back... she's not buying what you are selling (you have no leverage) it doesn't matter why because it's a waste of emotional energy you should direct at women that like you.
This is all great imfor
I did not say that it was impossible. What I said is if a woman was raised in a racist family it will be hard. I do agree the South has changed a great deal and this isn't as much of a problem anymore. But the only way you know is if you try.
In the dating game women will try the Current popular flavors. They won't marry outside their group norm tho. But they'll date and fvck whats hawt.
 

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I must say that as a short Mediterranean (main stock from the Pyrinée Mountains, on both sides), I am most interested in tall blonde women with a large hips to waist ratio, a nice rack, and long legs.
 

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I decided to make a guide for you guys since I wanted to contribute some advice to this forum, finally. So we all have types, some of us like hot blondes, some of us love a hot Latina, and some of us are into a crazy sexy Asian woman. Now sometimes, the stars line up and you're in a good spot. You just happen to have a "type" and women of that type happen to find men with your looks attractive, it's a match made in heaven.

Generally speaking, hot girls like men with a look that is different from theirs, for quick flings it is the case that "opposites attract".

Hot blondes love guys with dark hair, hot white girls with black hair prefer men with lighter hair, Latinas are not too into "brown" guys of any kind for quick flings, and you get the picture. So if you happen to be in that situation, great for you stop reading this thread now.

But let's say you've done that and you're in a situation where you have a "type" yet social barriers, perceptions, and those things don't work in your favor. You might like a Latina or raven-haired Euro girl with tanned skin but her friends prefer the blond viking over your Cristiano Ronaldo lookinazz. What do you do?

Whatever it is that women of the group your type is in, you are not on the favorable end of that. Whatever it is that is going on, it isn't favorable to you being balls deep in her, especially if she is your type. So what do you? Well Good Gao is here to help.

Accept it before anything, don't start fooling yourself.

Yeah, to be frankly honest with you, women are choosy about race and women from certain groups like certain kinds of men. A hot Latin girl for example prefers the whitest looking guys possible because that is valued in her culture. A hot blonde prefers guys with dark hair or darker men in general since blond haired men are too common to her. Don't start fooling yourself here, it is a denialism mindgame you are playing. No matter your race, you'll do well with certain races and cultures of women and horrible with others.

When you go against the grain and natural attraction trends, you will have to realize that women who are your "type" but from a group that normally does not go for a guy like you will have an ulterior motive. They might be in bed with you when all is said and done but these women would not have swiped right on you and likely have rejected you at a nightclub if you walked up to them.

Get good with the women you can get good with and be out with them.

Lonely Asian guy hitting the bars all alone? Not hot to the Asian girls he prefers.

Asian guy shows up to bar with a hot white girl? Asian girls want to fight for him and his attention.

I know, as an Asian guy, it is sad. In other words, get good with girls in general and practice being seen as the guy who can get girls to come out with him. I have an Arab friend that regularly has hot blondes come out with him, now Latinas and Arab girls who would have otherwise put this guy in a provider category at best have let him plow them away.

Most of all, some of the women you are seeing have friends and those friends might be of the type that you are into, win win. Those women tell those friends good things, you are set.

Go to places where escorts are legal and plow away at your type if you have the money.

Great way to psychologically get over it. One of my friends is a Latino guy who kills it with blondes but dark-haired white girls that he loves tend to pass him up. What did he do? Once he got rich, he said screw it slept with about 20 different escorts with that Megan Fox look. I cannot comment on how he does with those women now because it doesn't bother him anymore as to how he does. I think this is the best option because you can actually get it out of your mind for good.

Create situations where you have leverage over your "type" (location, wealth, etc.).

One of my friends is a Latino from the East Coast with a huge thing for dark-haired white girls, unfortunately, the area of the east coast he grew up in had a very high Italian population. For those who do not know Italian Americans well, they aren't too fond of minorities and the women hate darker guys of all types. As you can see, he was a severe disadvantage as an Aaron Hernandez lookalike with the kinds of girls he wanted.

My friend decided to stay in Romania for a year, needless to say, he has slept with a lot of hot white girls with dark hair as a result due to his American citizenship and naturally higher status. I recommend most guys do the same, key is to leverage your first world citizenship and natural status. I also recommend Seeking Arrangement.

Social circle status and other high status jobs that make you attractive to women are also an example of leverage.

If you have done the above enough, MAYBE approach.

The truth is, you are better off approaching women who are naturally inclined to go for you but if you have done enough of the above and still want to plow your type, just approach now that your head is more clear. You'll still do worse than you would with women who are naturally inclined to go for you but the **** wants what it wants. Just know that you cannot fight societal programming that women go through and you can only combat nature with the tools I have shown above, it won't be genuine though.

Some closing words and thoughts.

1. Remember, don't get attached, get your sex and bounce.

Plow her and bounce, she is not genuinely into you. You might plow that hot blonde as a Thor lookalike yourself but she wants a darker guy once you are off the bed. You might plow that hot Salma Hayek lookalike as some handsome Bollywood stud yourself but once you are off the bed, she is done with you and only slept with you for some ulterior motive. She won't make a good wife for you or anything, you wanted a taste of your type and you got it.

2. Even if you get it all out of your system, nature is what nature is.

You can sleep with 50 hot Latin girls as a brown guy yourself, not gonna change they fact that they are not too fond for brown guys. You just used status, leverage, and other ways to get your **** wet. Maybe you could have slept with a 100 hot blondes instead, who knows, but you got it wet.

3. See it as a transaction.

Whether you see an escort or not, as you go for women who naturally don't like men like you, they are doing it for ulterior motives. See it as you getting sex with your type and then forget about it. Get it out of your system.

I'll post more on this later.
One major flaw in your analysis is that very few "hot blonds" are natural blonds. Just sayin'...
 

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Go to places where escorts are legal and plow away at your type if you have the money.

Great way to psychologically get over it. One of my friends is a Latino guy who kills it with blondes but dark-haired white girls that he loves tend to pass him up. What did he do? Once he got rich, he said screw it slept with about 20 different escorts with that Megan Fox look. I cannot comment on how he does with those women now because it doesn't bother him anymore as to how he does. I think this is the best option because you can actually get it out of your mind for good.





Lets say that this idea is indulged, then what about escorts that rejects Black clients? Most of these types of escorts are Black man's dream type girls (i.e. Filipina, and other exotic type of mixes, etc....) and might reject me if I admit that I'm Black or half-Black and I would feel like I'm betraying my Black side if I say it's another background to get some paid tail? Really? Also doesn't work if you are fundamentally incompatible to those type of women.

Good Gao said:
Create situations where you have leverage over your "type" (location, wealth, etc.).

One of my friends is a Latino from the East Coast with a huge thing for dark-haired white girls, unfortunately, the area of the east coast he grew up in had a very high Italian population. For those who do not know Italian Americans well, they aren't too fond of minorities and the women hate darker guys of all types. As you can see, he was a severe disadvantage as an Aaron Hernandez lookalike with the kinds of girls he wanted.

My friend decided to stay in Romania for a year, needless to say, he has slept with a lot of hot white girls with dark hair as a result due to his American citizenship and naturally higher status. I recommend most guys do the same, key is to leverage your first world citizenship and natural status. I also recommend Seeking Arrangement.

Social circle status and other high status jobs that make you attractive to women are also an example of leverage.
Planes are grounded because of Covid-19. That also looks like a half-baked idea. Again, it's the same LMS, if you have allot of $$$ you have that option.

goodgao said:
3. See it as a transaction.

Whether you see an escort or not, as you go for women who naturally don't like men like you, they are doing it for ulterior motives. See it as you getting sex with your type and then forget about it. Get it out of your system.

I'll post more on this later.
That is easier said than done. It is a buzz-kill when it's obvious they are doing it for ulterior motives. What you are writing sounds good in paper, but when you apply it, and the woman is in the same room as you are, you start feeling uncomfortable if she's not real with you. How can you think like that?
 
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Sometimes you have to dig in to what her motives are and then understand it from there. As a white guy who is very swarthy (Lazar Angelov-tier), a lot of white women with this kind of a look have a huge inferiority complex. The fact of the matter is that they grow up throughout their lives being below the hot blonde.

For them, it is not about fulfilling their sexual desires and going for guys that might be hot. For them, it is fulfilling an insecurity and addressing an inferiority complex. The problem is, they feel less white and they want to be whiter. They envy and wish they were the hot blonde prime Jessica Simpson that all top tier men value, such is life.

So when you have that much insecurity piled up in a group of women (read: most ethnic women that are born and raised in the states and good looking), that is what you get. You get someone without any emotions, just someone who is cut-throat, and almost robotic in the way she chooses men. I almost feel like a lot of these women who fit the mold (and there are a lot) are emotionless and just hollow shells, permanently feeling second place in life and having that bitterness with them throughout, some actually get off on treating men like crap.

All I can say is, some dude is going to be inheriting that mess and some kid is going to have a messed up childhood due to a psycho for a mom.

My recommendation is go the escort route, pay for it, and pump her until you are over it. They really need to allow men to see escorts.
 

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I think the easiest way for a man to get a woman of his "type" is to make his type more "well rounded". :p
 
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