I agree with this as women can be subtle af, and sometimes if they're attracted to someone, their IOIs are given subconsciously and they don't even recognize it. And you have a lot of dudes that don't see it and need a woman to literally jump on top of them to get the hint.
Still, it has to be said many of us just flat out don't get them. I can recognize when they give them to other dudes. Yes, it's often subtle, but you still notice it.
I agree with this as women can be subtle af, and sometimes if they're attracted to someone, their IOIs are given subconsciously and they don't even recognize it. And you have a lot of dudes that don't see it and need a woman to literally jump on top of them to get the hint.
Still, it has to be said many of us just flat out don't get them. I can recognize when they give them to other dudes. Yes, it's often subtle, but you still notice it.
That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.
I've noticed some today , women will catch me looking and hold eye contact or vice versa noticed it yesterday . They will crack jokes or smile. The more you get out the house the more you will notice it.
Go out to eat somewhere you've never been and sit in , even if by yourself.
Call up your buddies and go out to the park for a game of basketball , maybe a park you've never been to before.
Ditch Netflix and doordash, they reduce your exposure to the outside world. Idk if it's possible but find a video store and visit. Just get outside that damn house.
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That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.
It's not anyone else's problem if someone else doesn't get choosing signals , god helps those who help themselves,if they aren't getting choosing signals I'm almost certain that they know why and what they have to do to fix it.
If you NEVER receive any choosing signals something is most definitely wrong .
That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.
i have seen normal guys with cute gfs . So this kind of things really do happen to normal guys
if you are in shape have a decent face and look like a guy that is doing alright , you should be in top 20% of men
I see NormAl guys with women all the time . Some of them actually really cute
the problem of the normal guy is not that he can not get laid , it is just that he is missing the abundance mentality other guys have
when you do not have an abundance mentality , you will just shoot yourself in the foot both when you are in a relationship , but also when you are in hunting mode , as you will lack
Confidence
so at the end of the day , in most of the cases that guys have it is a matter of mentality and pshihic , rather than an actual problem
Never. And I'm 6'3, in shape and dress extremely well. But I'm also black and not a 11/10 gigachad in the face like everyone here claims to be so there's that.
If you have the face, though, women will approach.
I am also a black, darkskinned guy and i disagree. I also dont have a perfect t model shaped face. Still I've been approached quite often. Ofcourse not on a daily base, but plenty of times. I think it has mostly to do with the aura of a man ,if that makes sense.
It's also a matter of place and time. If there's a girl who likes black guys and you just happen to be there..
Yesterday there was this festival I visited and I got ioi from everywhere just insane. Funny thing is , I'm 38 now and my vibe and frame is just more confident then when I was 20( and had a fresher face) . I am looking for ioi,s less and get them way more. Yesterday I literally got hit on by a girl while her boyfriend was behind her which almost led to fight
Also I wanna add, you might be missing alot of ioi. But, I am fairly new here and try to sharpen my game.there are Djs with more field experience who can talk about "monetizing "your ioi s.
Just wanna say dont hold back , or feel some type of way because of race, skin color ect. It's all about a mans frame.
It's not anyone else's problem if someone else doesn't get choosing signals , god helps those who help themselves,if they aren't getting choosing signals I'm almost certain that they know why and what they have to do to fix it.
If you NEVER receive any choosing signals something is most definitely wrong .
I didn't say it was anyone else's problem....I missed the part where I asked for advice. I also didn't insinuate that it was right or wrong or whatever if you don't get choosing signals. You're making way too many assumptions. My point was, not everyone gets them, period.
I am also a black, darkskinned guy and i disagree. I also dont have a perfect t model shaped face. Still I've been approached quite often. Ofcourse not on a daily base, but plenty of times. I think it has mostly to do with the aura of a man ,if that makes sense.
It's also a matter of place and time. If there's a girl who likes black guys and you just happen to be there..
Yesterday there was this festival I visited and I got ioi from everywhere just insane. Funny thing is , I'm 38 now and my vibe and frame is just more confident then when I was 20( and had a fresher face) . I am looking for ioi,s less and get them way more. Yesterday I literally got hit on by a girl while her boyfriend was behind her which almost led to fight
Also I wanna add, you might be missing alot of ioi. But, I am fairly new here and try to sharpen my game.there are Djs with more field experience who can talk about "monetizing "your ioi s.
Just wanna say dont hold back , or feel some type of way because of race, skin color ect. It's all about a mans frame.
Dude you can't "disagree". I'm not even dark skinned, and I didn't say "literally black guys never ever never get iois"...I said "I" never get them, and it's just basic logistics that on average depending on numerous factors ethnic men would approached less than their white peers.
But good for your or whatever. Like I said, good-looking guys get approached, you're likely quite a bit better looking than I am. That was the point of my initial post...good-looking guys get iois and approached, regardless of race or whatever. I'm sure if looked like Ben Simmons or Patrick Mahomes, women would approach.
i have seen normal guys with cute gfs . So this kind of things really do happen to normal guys
if you are in shape have a decent face and look like a guy that is doing alright , you should be in top 20% of men
I see NormAl guys with women all the time . Some of them actually really cute
the problem of the normal guy is not that he can not get laid , it is just that he is missing the abundance mentality other guys have
when you do not have an abundance mentality , you will just shoot yourself in the foot both when you are in a relationship , but also when you are in hunting mode , as you will lack
Confidence
so at the end of the day , in most of the cases that guys have it is a matter of mentality and pshihic , rather than an actual problem
Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.
I didn't say it was anyone else's problem....I missed the part where I asked for advice. I also didn't insinuate that it was right or wrong or whatever if you don't get choosing signals. You're making way too many assumptions. My point was, not everyone gets them, period.
Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.
I do not agree . It is about also how you carry yourself which is a big tale sign if you are comfortable with yourself or not
you have to be comfortable with yourself
I see daily normal people that normally dressed and have a normal life with girls
maybe you are just ugly , have no idea, and if this is the case then i have no idea what to say rather than going to escorts to get laid and still be optimistic that you will find a girl to be your gf eventually
Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.
Fashion makes little difference in my experience. I just dress up for fun because I enjoy it. I’m regularly complimented by women at work on my clothes. But that’s it. It has nothing to do with attraction. It boosts me to “High Tier” Friendzone instead lol.
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I do not agree . It is about also how you carry yourself which is a big tale sign if you are comfortable with yourself or not
you have to be comfortable with yourself
I see daily normal people that normally dressed and have a normal life with girls
maybe you are just ugly , have no idea, and if this is the case then i have no idea what to say rather than going to escorts to get laid and still be optimistic that you will find a girl to be your gf eventually
I mean...you don't know if those "normal" guys have a ton of money or have high status or social clout.
Also lol sometimes bad advice is worse than no advice. If a dude is forced to solicit literal wores, I don't think he's going to garner an abundance of optimism regarding ever finding an actual GF...
Fashion makes little difference in my experience. I just dress up for fun because I enjoy it. I’m regularly complimented by women at work on my clothes. But that’s it. It has nothing to do with attraction. It boosts me to “High Tier” Friendzone instead lol.
Meh, height is overrated. Women will take a short good-looking guy over a tall rando 10/10. Height is really only touted by short men who seek an excuse not to act.
Wayyy ahead of you. If women cared even remotely about attire, I'd be swimming in pVssy. The last time I went out I had no less than 7 different random dudes just tell me "nice fit" or whatever, yet not a single woman said anything.
While I will get some women to make strong eye contact and smile, I often feel invisible to women. When I feel invisible, it is when I don't get any IOIs for a bit.
I'd say that during periods when I'm having problems, my biggest problem is not going out into the real world and in front of enough eligible women.
While I will get some women to make strong eye contact and smile, I often feel invisible to women. When I feel invisible, it is when I don't get any IOIs for a bit.
I'd say that during periods when I'm having problems, my biggest problem is not going out into the real world and in front of enough eligible women.
lol how tf can you feel invisible to women if they're literally leering and smiling at you? No, you're invisible to women when they literally don't acknowledge your presence, dude. I feel like some of you guys really expect wayyyy too much, and in many cases, it's just first-world problems.
lol how tf can you feel invisible to women if they're literally leering and smiling at you? No, you're invisible to women when they literally don't acknowledge your presence, dude. I feel like some of you guys really expect wayyyy too much, and in many cases, it's just first-world problems.
I make strong eye contact and/or smile at them first. A very low percentage of these women reciprocate my positive body language. Indoor masking has made this problem worse.
There are times where I won’t get leered at or smiled at for a while. This is when I feel invisible, especially when I am signaling them first.
