How Do Women Feel When Sex Doesn't Happen? Salvageable?

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You raise a similar point to the reply above m. Why does elite physique matter more and is there a particular benchmark to what elite physique is? (Like a certain bf %) or is it subjective?
It is somewhat subjective. 10-15% body fat. There are probably some arm measurements for bicep/tricep size that would be relevant too.

Height matters too. Millennial and later White women generally are seeking men 6'0"+. The combination of height, muscles, and lower body fat is the best combination out there.

When you have an elite physique, you will get more IOIs and compliance from women. Less effort is required to get them to have sex with you and also throughout the entire initial seduction process.

If you can get sex more easily, there's less of a need to watch porn and masturbate.
 

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It is somewhat subjective. 10-15% body fat. There are probably some arm measurements for bicep/tricep size that would be relevant too.

Height matters too. Millennial and later White women generally are seeking men 6'0"+. The combination of height, muscles, and lower body fat is the best combination out there.

When you have an elite physique, you will get more IOIs and compliance from women. Less effort is required to get them to have sex with you and also throughout the entire initial seduction process.

If you can get sex more easily, there's less of a need to watch porn and masturbate.
Dont forget hair...an elite physique on a norwood 5 doesnt make it any elite.
 

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You need to see a urologist and make sure this never happens again. Also make sure you’re in physical shape. I had this happen once and you have to use it as an opportunity to be honest and be preventative. Next time you meet a woman and have this opportunity you will be ready to knock it out of the park.
 

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She honestly was probably worried you didn't find her attractive and that something was wrong with her as to why you couldn't perform...

Good to hear you tore that ass up properly
I’m thinking the same thing here.
 

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Exactly, think of yourself like batman and this is just another tool in your belt. Once you know its there any anxiety can go f&^k itself. You have the answer readily available.
I've always explored that idea but I've also wondered whether it will become an impediment in the long run. Like you become dependent on it and can't get hard without.

It is somewhat subjective. 10-15% body fat. There are probably some arm measurements for bicep/tricep size that would be relevant too.

Height matters too. Millennial and later White women generally are seeking men 6'0"+. The combination of height, muscles, and lower body fat is the best combination out there.

When you have an elite physique, you will get more IOIs and compliance from women. Less effort is required to get them to have sex with you and also throughout the entire initial seduction process.

If you can get sex more easily, there's less of a need to watch porn and masturbate.
Gold advice. But in terms of 10-15% body fat, I am assuming there is a level of bulk required too right? For example, bulking up to a certain proportion before cutting down to 10-15% body fat.

Interestingly, my good bro once told me girls nowadays prefer leaner guys with definition (shredded) as compared to bulk gym bros.

Dont forget hair...an elite physique on a norwood 5 doesnt make it any elite.
I'm assuming you're referring to balding and receding hairlines right? But then again, is this something you can control or prevent? Isn't it just genetics? (The life lottery you get dealt with).

You need to see a urologist and make sure this never happens again. Also make sure you’re in physical shape. I had this happen once and you have to use it as an opportunity to be honest and be preventative. Next time you meet a woman and have this opportunity you will be ready to knock it out of the park.
What specific preventative measures did you take?
 

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in terms of 10-15% body fat, I am assuming there is a level of bulk required too right? For example, bulking up to a certain proportion before cutting down to 10-15% body fat.

Interestingly, my good bro once told me girls nowadays prefer leaner guys with definition (shredded) as compared to bulk gym bros.
Having some muscle mass is important. The leaner guys with definition will have some muscle mass too.

Women get turned on and give attention to both types of men. This is most typically observed in the real world at gyms and nightlife venues, but can happen anywhere. It's a huge advantage on the swipe apps. The mid tier man is barely getting any attention on the swipe apps and the 90th percentile + man is getting a lot of attention, likely more than if he solely focused on nightlife game.
 

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I'm assuming you're referring to balding and receding hairlines right? But then again, is this something you can control or prevent? Isn't it just genetics? (The life lottery you get dealt with).
Some men are royally screwed from genetics and there is nothing they can do while others can save the day either with chemistry or surgery.

Since we're talking about elite levels here.


Having some muscle mass is important. The leaner guys with definition will have some muscle mass too.

Women get turned on and give attention to both types of men. This is most typically observed in the real world at gyms and nightlife venues, but can happen anywhere. It's a huge advantage on the swipe apps. The mid tier man is barely getting any attention on the swipe apps and the 90th percentile + man is getting a lot of attention, likely more than if he solely focused on nightlife game.
I would say the body that attracts the biggest percentage of women is a middle weight fighter one (see george st pierre) or a general abercrombie model.

Enough muscle mass to perform and a healthy bodyfat level.

Bigger guys have their niche but it's a small one while ultra ripped skinny guys unless tall are not generally seen as sex objects from women.

Being the strong swollen fattish guy may get you respect from men but hardly will make women wet.
 

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I've always explored that idea but I've also wondered whether it will become an impediment in the long run. Like you become dependent on it and can't get hard without.



Gold advice. But in terms of 10-15% body fat, I am assuming there is a level of bulk required too right? For example, bulking up to a certain proportion before cutting down to 10-15% body fat.

Interestingly, my good bro once told me girls nowadays prefer leaner guys with definition (shredded) as compared to bulk gym bros.



I'm assuming you're referring to balding and receding hairlines right? But then again, is this something you can control or prevent? Isn't it just genetics? (The life lottery you get dealt with).



What specific preventative measures did you take?
I got my health right including stress, diet, supplementation, and urology
 

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This isn't a big deal. But women don't see it that way. However, it isn't in the way you may think. They actually think you aren't attracted to them and there is something wrong with them and immediately start second guessing themselves.

Is it salvageable? Yes, ask her out again and I would guess she will take you up on it. To protect yourself against mind-fvcking yourself a second time, maybe take a half of a viagra or something and you won't need to worry about it. If it happens a second time, you will probably be in trouble as far as seeing her again. But unless she is incredibly young most women understand this happens from time to time with men even though they find it confusing. Your biggest hurdle moving forward will not be to overthink when you get into bed. Focus on her and you will be fine.
 

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I haven't gone through all of the posts on here. As some of the others have mentioned, it's normal for a man to NOT be constantly horny or raging hard even with just the smell of a woman lol. In a particular moment in time like this, perhaps you were just tired or maybe had other things on your mind that had you distracted. Something else that can be an issue is if you are nervous or feeling a lot of pressure to perform, which results in having issues with getting an erection. I would only be concerned about something like this if it were a chronic or repetitive issue.

With this out of the way. A woman that does not know you all that well may feel discouraged if something like this were to happen. It could make her feel like she isn't attractive or that she is doing something wrong. I knew a guy that was dating a girl he really wasn't all that into and he said that he'd have issues with getting hard or that he would have trouble climaxing/ejaculating. She obviously noticed this and it became a problem with them, he basically said that she'd start asking him about it and if she wasn't attractive enough for him or something along those lines.

There is no way the chick is a 9 unless OP is a fat lard tard with poor ED issues the girl was a 2 at best, this story reeks of duck tales lol
That last part about Duck Tales basically applies to half the stuff you'll read on here lately. Regardless of how attractive she is, the issues he mentions can and will happen, even without there being legitimate physical erectile issues. Feeling pressure to perform or being stressed can cause something like this to happen, as I mentioned above.
 
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