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brixlingo

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This post looks like you are trying to tell yourself that. "Taking action is fun" was a thought process I had in my 20's too. It was because I had to overcome approach anxiety. So I was all about taking action. But now that I am in my 30's, I no longer have any emotional hang ups. Things like approach anxiety doesn't apply to me anymore, so to tell a guy like me to take action is actually kind of comical. I have discovered a way more efficient way to catch women. I use a net instead of a fishing pole. I seek out social environments that have a lot of women. And if you are a good looking guy, you won't even need to be a seducer in these environments.

At the very most you would have to initiate conversations. But even then, women open me all the time.

To be a seducer as a high value/good looking guy in an environment with a lot of women is like overkill. It doesn't even make sense. Women are already trying to sleep with you. They love sexual tension. And you will develop a sense of entitlement from it that will prevent you from trying too hard. In other words, your own brain will block you from being a seducer because there is no need to. Your brain has this survival mechanism thing were it prevents you from using energy to do unnecessary things.

The only time you need to be a seducer is if you had no social life and you have to go into the sexual market place. I did that for 10 years. And I loved every minute of it. But now that I am in my 30's, I am bored of it. And one day you will grow out of it too.
Social circle has it's limits in terms of getting laid though. I already feel in the group and entitled but with cold approach I feel a thrill and more "in the moment" thus keeping me engaged. I also love the feeling of doing something 99% of guys can't do and succeeding. How many guys do you know can approach a girl get her number and sleep with her within the next month or so?
 

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They're all intellectuals.

All 3 of em.

Socially awkward in real life which is why they read absurd amounts of books just to come to grips/understanding on those awkwardness.

Then they come online and over compensate, not knowing its doesn't work that way in real life.
here comes spaz again ruining every thread with his creepy ass vibe with epic days gladly taking spaz's nuts on his face. Thread over.
Spaz if you ruin and fvck things up this bad on an online forum I can only imagine the nightmare you are in real life.
 

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Yes they're passive.

They're the exact opposite of the expressives.

But remember each quadrant has their own genius and plays an important role in how humanity functions.
I understand. I'm just trying to learn it. I have no qualms with any of them.
 

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A lot of guys seem to think sexual tension is a gift women give us. It is actually a gift we give them.
Come on bro, some of your posts make sense but your ego off the charts. Sexual tension is a gift we give women?

I swear you guys must live in some type fairy tale land in an idyllic setting where young hot women are begging to you to kiss them and get the gift of your sex.

In my REALITY world, if a man says ONE wrong thing to any decent looking young girl, ONE, she will move on. If the man OFFENDS the girl in anyway with any in appropriate sexual comments or tension, he is ARRESTED and will have a CRIMINAL RECORD.

Are you guys all millionaire movie stars because your posts have that vibe. I must be just a layman.
 

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here comes spaz again ruining every thread with his creepy ass vibe with epic days gladly taking spaz's nuts on his face. Thread over.
Spaz if you ruin and fvck things up this bad on an online forum I can only imagine the nightmare you are in real life.
Seems like you can't handle an honest answer and then get all emotional over it.

That too is an honest answer by itself.
 

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Social circle has it's limits in terms of getting laid though. I already feel in the group and entitled but with cold approach I feel a thrill and more "in the moment" thus keeping me engaged. I also love the feeling of doing something 99% of guys can't do and succeeding. How many guys do you know can approach a girl get her number and sleep with her within the next month or so?
Actually when I go out, just about everyone is hooking up. The puas are actually the ones who look the most socially awkward. I never understood why guys in the community think they have some kind of special skill when community guys have often been the biggest losers.

I have spent many nights out with puas. They act like aliens from a different planet trying to figure out human dynamics. Meanwhile everyone else is having fun and hooking up.

When I go out, I don't judge how good my night was based on how many approaches I did. I judge it based on how many women approached me when all I did was had fun. If given an option, I choose abundance with 0% effort. I don't know anybody who wouldn't choose this.

Sure if I see a girl that really stands out I will approach her.

But when you've been in the game as long as I have, you realize that most females you run into in the sexual market place are the same.

It's only fun when you are young. But after thousands of approaches and no social life to show for it, you will start to feel like a weirdo. At least I did. When I was young I wanted to prove I had the best game. Now I am too lazy and would rather put myself in social environments where women already exist. Plus I have already maximized my value so all I need to do is exist next to women.

The fascination you have for women will die when you are in your thirties and you will try to find easy ways to incorporate women into your life like I am suggesting. I know it's hard to believe now because you are young and full of wonder and excitement and cvm.
 
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Come on bro, some of your posts make sense but your ego off the charts. Sexual tension is a gift we give women?

I swear you guys must live in some type fairy tale land in an idyllic setting where young hot women are begging to you to kiss them and get the gift of your sex.

In my REALITY world, if a man says ONE wrong thing to any decent looking young girl, ONE, she will move on. If the man OFFENDS the girl in anyway with any in appropriate sexual comments or tension, he is ARRESTED and will have a CRIMINAL RECORD.

Are you guys all millionaire movie stars because your posts have that vibe. I must be just a layman.
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The secret to getting no flakes is trying to have sex with women on the spot.

I am serious. This is the ultimate secret of all secrets, lol.

When I focus on dates, all I get are flakes.

But when I focus on sexual tension, all I get are women giving in 10% and telling me I can get more if I just take her number and see her again next time. And the next time they come over wearing something sexy.

Ask for the moon and you get nothing. Ask for the stars and you get the moon.

Guys think "Oh once she gets to know me, she will like me."

It's more like you have to create a sexual relationship with her BEFORE she even cares about who the hell you are.

Sexual tension is value to women. A lot of guys seem to think sexual tension is a gift women give us. It is actually a gift we give them.
I couldn't care less about the "date" but according to this forum, it needs to be set up to meet if we're going for sex. I couldn't care less about having a great, and rather focus on sex after first 'date', etc. I don't go clubbing/bar/drink etc so I really wouldnt a setting where I'd find an ideal hook up date the first time we ever met.

How would I go about better fixing this ? Thanks!!
 

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I couldn't care less about the "date" but according to this forum, it needs to be set up to meet if we're going for sex. I couldn't care less about having a great, and rather focus on sex after first 'date', etc. I don't go clubbing/bar/drink etc so I really wouldnt a setting where I'd find an ideal hook up date the first time we ever met.

How would I go about better fixing this ? Thanks!!
This forum has great advice on life. But when it comes to game, there are a lot of limiting beliefs.

What's your focus when interacting with a woman? Mines is the underlying sexual tension and connection I share with her. The rest is details and logistics.

Now because I just met her, it's very possible that her logistics will not allow me to have sex with her on the spot. So we make plans to continue our romantic connection some other time.

What guys do wrong is they try to get the date and think "THEN I will escalate things." But what reason does she have to show up if there is no connection?

I escalate on the spot and allow logistics to pull me back. In other words, my sexual intent is 100% and I go backwards to 90%, 80%, 70 , etc.

What a lot of guys do is they go in with 0% intent, they dont polarize her, and they try to get a number or set up a date. And then they increase their intent incrementally.

So basically my game is backwards from what this site preaches. I assume the close. And allow natural circumstances to block me and i adjust.

In other words, the date is a compromise I am settling for.

The reason why my game is this way is because I have a connection with many women in my social circles. The connection you have with women will set the tone for other women.

If I live in sexual tension, then that's going to be the reality I will assume with every new woman. And I pull her into my reality.

It's like how high status people in certain circles assume high status even outside their circles. It's a reality they are used to. And because of this, they end up bringing that reality with them.

In simple terms, imagine she is already part of your harem. Don't act like a stranger. Assume the connection and act accordingly. In my world, that means closing the distance and touching her, making out, etc right on the spot. I don't care about no future date. All that matters is that moment.
 
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This forum has great advice on life. But when it comes to game, there are a lot of limiting beliefs.

What's your focus when interacting with a woman? Mines is the underlying sexual tension and connection I share with her. The rest is details and logistics.

Now because I just met her, it's very possible that her logistics will not allow me to have sex with her on the spot. So we make plans to continue our romantic connection some other time.

What guys do wrong is they try to get the date and think "THEN I will escalate things." But what reason does she have to show up if there is no connection?

I escalate on the spot and allow logistics to pull me back. In other words, my sexual intent is 100% and I go backwards to 90%, 80%, 70 , etc.

What a lot of guys do is they go in with 0% intent, they dont polarize her, and they try to get a number or set up a date. And then they increase their intent incrementally.

So basically my game is backwards from what this site preaches. I assume the close. And allow natural circumstances to block me and i adjust.

In other words, the date is a compromise I am settling for.

The reason why my game is this way is because I have a connection with many women in my social circles. The connection you have with women will set the tone for other women.

If I live in sexual tension, then that's going to be the reality I will assume with every new woman. And I pull her into my reality.

It's like how high status people in certain circles assume high status even outside their circles. It's a reality they are used to. And because of this, they end up bringing that reality with them.

In simple terms, imagine she is already part of your harem. Don't act like a stranger. Assume the connection and act accordingly. In my world, that means closing the distance and touching her, making out, etc right on the spot. I don't care about no future date. All that matters is that moment.
I'm looking at this in a different frame than I'm used to. I should release.more sexual attention and build that sexual attraction. I always suppresed since approaching and using this forum because I didn't want to come off like a horny weirdo and scare her off although it was just a fear, so I stuck with acting cool, calm, fun and build mild rapport while setting up first meet up to allow anything to go.

On the day you meet up with the chick besides the initial interaction do you contact her that day any further logistics .... Or do you do nothing that day and risk her ghosting but possibly contacting you for your amazing time?
 

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I'm looking at this in a different frame than I'm used to. I should release.more sexual attention and build that sexual attraction. I always suppresed since approaching and using this forum because I didn't want to come off like a horny weirdo and scare her off although it was just a fear, so I stuck with acting cool, calm, fun and build mild rapport while setting up first meet up to allow anything to go.

On the day you meet up with the chick besides the initial interaction do you contact her that day any further logistics .... Or do you do nothing that day and risk her ghosting but possibly contacting you for your amazing time?
It would make sense to contact her to see if she's going to show up.

If I were you I would stop worrying about microcalibration. It's going to drive you insane. Just do what normal people do. Touching base before a date is what normal people do. If she rejects you because of this, then she has issues. Don't try to game so much that you become molded by crazy women. Just do what is normal. It will weed out all the crazy women.
 

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This does not mean your instinct are wrong imo
She probably was interested if she gave you her digit.

Women have so many options sometimes and with that come flakiness.
Dude are you kidding me? Women have so many options that they don't have the fudging courtesy to tell a guy they can't make it to meet up they scheduled specifically? Forget about actually telling him 'im not interested anymore or think of you like that'. I have a feeling women don't communicate this well on purpose so they can have the guys attention and feel more desirable anytime they feel insecure. This makes me frustrated because this has been happening with chicks lately who seem high status and nice on the front. Like being in pharmacy or medical school and being so polite with flirtiness. Yet everything changes when they go no contact the day of our supposed meet up. But guess what? When I contact them another day with a. Pity text like 'i guess you weren't trying really meet up huh' they'll all of a sudden text a paragraph with smiling emojis and saying they're sorry and will be receptive to reschedule. From experience they usually don't follow up and will go no contact the day or cancel again. What sucks is like for the first time in my life I'm feeling high status somewhat as I could very well be getting my first software engineer position with 6 months, I work out consistently, I have goals, I don't jack off , porn, drugs, etc and people generally people think of me as fun and interesting to be around. I don't normally complain like this but it's a forum and I'm letting it out. Like I said I have no problem meeting attractive high status women and having them agree to meeting up etc. But holy crap it's almost like they feel like I'm putting a gun to their head to say yes so it was fake along just to get out the situation. The courtesy part is what kills me. I'm an only son of 6 1 younger that is 22 and 4 older 30-36. You'd think I accept women as this. But this is one of the things I hate about them lol.
 
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