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Was listening to a guy on youtube who thinks homosexuals are responsible for much of today's western culture. He's not homophobic but his theories are pretty interesting/controversial so I thought I'd share them and get your thoughts

Theory 1) Gays invented Hook ups
He mentions how for thousands of years heterosexual couples married as virgins, they would mate with one partner until death. Homosexuals transcending to the surface have slowly reversed this by normalizing hook ups and one night stands, which in the 70's & 80's lead to the spread of AIDS.

Theory 2) Gays invented clubbing culture
The whole dark and dingy loud boxed up clubbing atmosphere, private parties conducted underground (until the police raided them back in the day). Fast forward a few decades and this behaviour is now a staple among normal straight people, even though most straight males seem to dislike it.

Theory 3) Gays invented Tinder & modern OLD
Tinder is apparently an offshoot of Grinder (a gay app from back in the day) which basically changed our relationships and dating culture permanently. More hook ups and ONS. Our relationships with women now is no different than the truck stop glory holes from the gay scene a few decades ago.

Theory 4) Gays influenced women not having children
The whole Chihuahua in the handbag, using dogs/animals as surrogate children, living a relativity free, pampered life was originally a gay thing as gays were essentially biologically sterile. He claims that since women are essentially impressionable they copied all of these behaviours from gay men, who, they idolize

Theory 5) Gays fooled us about love
Gays like to speak about "love" waving around the rainbow flag while straight dudes are portrayed as sex-mad perverts. While in reality it's the gay scene that is extremely sexual & promiscuous while most straight men are looking (and struggling) to find love.

If all of this is true, then the whole sosauve thing, hook ups, PUA---- is gay behaviour.
 

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Social and economic changes are responsible for modern culture, including gay culture.

The biggest change is that women now can earn as much or more than man.
Gays have nothing to do with that.
 
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Gays have been around since the beginning of time.

The things you mentioned in your post only gained popularity in the last 50 years or so. They happen to coincide with the defeat of religion and culture.

Liberals have taken over and proceeded to shape society. In this new environment, people have nothing to live for except their own base desires
 

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Again these aren't my opinions. He's called "Hell By The Dashboard Light"

But I'm not so sure, I think he might be onto something

The way we date, hook up, go clubbing

There seems to be elements borrowed from the gay scene
 

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The way we date, hook-up and go clubbing is just a revolving door to sex and alcohol. Gays didn't invent either of those
 
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We live in a moralless society where all anyone cares about is their own skin in the game. Sure, you have the avowed altruists, but they're just status signaling, posting their good deeds on Facebook for likes.

We have nothing in common anymore, if not for our mutual tastes in how we spend money.

When you do away with all of the things that ground a society, you end up with a mass of individuals looking for meaning. Most people find meaning the easy way, in their base desires: sex, food, acquiring resources (shopping).

But the biggest money maker is escapism: TV, movies, alcohol, drugs. Any form of mindless entertainment to help us get away from the absurdity of it all. If only for a little while.
 
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The biggest change is that women now can earn as much or more than man.
The biggest change is The Pill. As the OP said though, the dude had some interesting points.
 
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The biggest change is The Pill. As the OP said though, the dude had some interesting points.
The fvcking pill, though! Game changer.

The dude is just pointing out a society in decline. Things that worked and helped build a great nation, are now just antiquated things that white people used to do. Things like marriage, church, growing food, hunting...those are all backwoods now.

A country founded by explorers, and fought for by farmers, bites the dust due to porn, alcohol and meaninglessness

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Interesting points. But I think homosexuality is just a byproduct of bigger problems.

The thing is, you’ll find that throughout history, every society that was accepting of homosexuality was accepting of pedophilia. In fact, one type of pedophilia became so common that it needed its own separate name—pederasty. That is, pedophilia specifically of little boys. Women were typically married off once they hit puberty, but boys were raped even before that. That **** is just ****ed up. But why does it matter? Because we know that when children get molested/raped, their sexuality gets ****ed up.

Interestingly, we also know that many people who identify as not 100% straight have a much higher likelihood of having been molested as kids. I think it’s like 3% for those who are 100% straight and like 53% for those who aren’t lol. This is also why organizations like NAMBLA even exist.
 

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Replace "gay" with "Jews" and it will be correct. Jews pushed homosexuality in society and thus they are the root cause of it.

What you see now is no different than the Weimar Republic.
 

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It's a good thing politics aren't allowed on sosuave anymore. They might distract us from our study of white supremacist talking points. The gays and jews destroyed society! Rally tonight under the flaming cross! (Byo sheet.)
 

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Theory 1) Gays invented Hook ups
He mentions how for thousands of years heterosexual couples married as virgins, they would mate with one partner until death. Homosexuals transcending to the surface have slowly reversed this by normalizing hook ups and one night stands, which in the 70's & 80's lead to the spread of AIDS.
It's not like promiscuity never existed before the 70s. I find it funny how both red pill men and feminists have this crystallized image of some magical sepia-toned time where all women were under a man's thumb. RP men wax nostalgic and feminists call it oppression, but either way it's bullshyt. It was never as good or as bad as some would have you believe.

Certainly the pill and other advances have made promiscuity less expensive, but it's always been a fact of life. And I'm not just talking about prostitutes. There were always seductresses, courtesans, and the like. And yeah gays co-existed with us during these times. While SOME strata of heterosexual society may have saved it til marriage, we know for a fact that plenty didn't. The supposedly simpler times that RP men wax on about is a fairy tale.
 

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The thing is, you’ll find that throughout history, every society that was accepting of homosexuality was accepting of pedophilia.
That's definitely not the case in our society. Few, if any, groups are more despised than pedophiles.
I do agree that the way homosexuality is promoted today is symptomatic of other things.

Interestingly, we also know that many people who identify as not 100% straight have a much higher likelihood of having been molested as kids. I think it’s like 3% for those who are 100% straight and like 53% for those who aren’t lol.
I have never heard that. I did a quick Google and found a study with similar numbers. If this is accurate, I could see why certain groups would want it suppressed. Doesn't support the idea that people are born homosexual, at least not all of them.
 

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Women are obsessed with gay men and transgenderism. They are sowing the roots of their demise in the next 100 years. They have devalued their vagina, most lack a personality, many of them don't know how to cook. The rise of sex dolls, science manipulation of men and Trans having babies no wonder so many men are on the down low. I believe more men are bi sexual then the average human believes. It seems the majority of priests like abusing little boys as well as pedophiles, in Afghanistan government and police officials have something called the Bachi Boys who are young men who dress up as women and dance and these older men have sex with them. Malik Yoba the actor from New York Undercover admitted he is attracted to transgender women... It's crazy out here
 

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Replace "gay" with "Jews" and it will be correct. Jews pushed homosexuality in society and thus they are the root cause of it.

What you see now is no different than the Weimar Republic.
Funny, how for some people, it's all because of the Jews.

If you were powerful or capable, nothing matters and if it does, you know you're capable of handling it.

The only reason a man starts to blame an entire race is simply because he's highly incapable and powerless in real life.

Congratulations, you're just earned a spot that's even lower then a bottom feeder.
 

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Was listening to a guy on youtube who thinks homosexuals are responsible for much of today's western culture. He's not homophobic but his theories are pretty interesting/controversial so I thought I'd share them and get your thoughts

Theory 1) Gays invented Hook ups
He mentions how for thousands of years heterosexual couples married as virgins, they would mate with one partner until death. Homosexuals transcending to the surface have slowly reversed this by normalizing hook ups and one night stands, which in the 70's & 80's lead to the spread of AIDS.

Theory 2) Gays invented clubbing culture
The whole dark and dingy loud boxed up clubbing atmosphere, private parties conducted underground (until the police raided them back in the day). Fast forward a few decades and this behaviour is now a staple among normal straight people, even though most straight males seem to dislike it.

Theory 3) Gays invented Tinder & modern OLD
Tinder is apparently an offshoot of Grinder (a gay app from back in the day) which basically changed our relationships and dating culture permanently. More hook ups and ONS. Our relationships with women now is no different than the truck stop glory holes from the gay scene a few decades ago.

Theory 4) Gays influenced women not having children
The whole Chihuahua in the handbag, using dogs/animals as surrogate children, living a relativity free, pampered life was originally a gay thing as gays were essentially biologically sterile. He claims that since women are essentially impressionable they copied all of these behaviours from gay men, who, they idolize

Theory 5) Gays fooled us about love
Gays like to speak about "love" waving around the rainbow flag while straight dudes are portrayed as sex-mad perverts. While in reality it's the gay scene that is extremely sexual & promiscuous while most straight men are looking (and struggling) to find love.

If all of this is true, then the whole sosauve thing, hook ups, PUA---- is gay behaviour.
Care to share why u r so interested in homosexuality?
 

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Gays were simply a vehicle for that change not those who created it.

Its not any different than the black community being the first one to be destroyed, its was just a small scale experiment to see if it was gonna work and what needed to be adjusted before proceeding full scale.

Same thing with Greece in Europe.
 
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