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Yeah, I figure, when you press 'play' on that song, she either drops it(for a while), or she ghosts. Either way, you win.
I broke it down to her in plan English. What is in it for me? She honestly couldn't come up with an answer. It would be nice to work it out where we're both content. She already knows that I will walk if pushed. And I even stated, you need to let me know soon if this doesn't work for you either. She was dreaming of a Disney fairytale. I said, this ain't Disney, this is real life. Heck, even Disney Chairman, Bob Iger, was divorced. I also added, don't have fault with me, write our State legislators to make the laws fairer.
 

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I broke it down to her in plan English. What is in it for me? She honestly couldn't come up with an answer. It would be nice to work it out where we're both content. She already knows that I will walk if pushed. And I even stated, you need to let me know soon if this doesn't work for you either. She was dreaming of a Disney fairytale. I said, this ain't Disney, this is real life. Heck, even Disney Chairman, Bob Iger, was divorced. I also added, don't have fault with me, write our State legislators to make the laws fairer.
Ha, so they don't even bother to answer that question these days, lol!
 

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I broke it down to her in plan English. What is in it for me? She honestly couldn't come up with an answer. It would be nice to work it out where we're both content. She already knows that I will walk if pushed. And I even stated, you need to let me know soon if this doesn't work for you either. She was dreaming of a Disney fairytale. I said, this ain't Disney, this is real life. Heck, even Disney Chairman, Bob Iger, was divorced. I also added, don't have fault with me, write our State legislators to make the laws fairer.
Do you tell her that straight to the face? I mean do you hint at it or do you just say like "you know honey the law is not in favor of us, men"?
 

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Do you tell her that straight to the face? I mean do you hint at it or do you just say like "you know honey the law is not in favor of us, men"?
What do you think? You should know now, by the way I post, I'm pretty much point blank in my thoughts and actions.
 

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I broke it down to her in plan English. What is in it for me? She honestly couldn't come up with an answer. It would be nice to work it out where we're both content. She already knows that I will walk if pushed. And I even stated, you need to let me know soon if this doesn't work for you either. She was dreaming of a Disney fairytale. I said, this ain't Disney, this is real life. Heck, even Disney Chairman, Bob Iger, was divorced. I also added, don't have fault with me, write our State legislators to make the laws fairer.
From my perspective, the biggest obstacle to yielding to common sense/enlightened self-interest, with most women, isn't necessarily a self-destructive female nature; it's primarily weakness, in that they're too easily influenced by the opinions of their friends/family/peers/classmates/coworkers/strangers/entertainment/news/whatever, which isn't even a distinctly female failing. Being too easily influenced against one's own long-term self-interest is a classic human failing, most common to children and weak men. Women just happen to be children, and men are inclined to forget this fact.

She'll go back to her support group, with this new development, and they'll encourage her to do something else stupid(as if she were their NASA test-monkey), until their advice finally irreparably ruins your relationship...at which point they'll convince her how smart she was(as she sobs uncontrollably) to follow their advice(by pushing whatever self-destruct button), because "it was never going to work out, anyway," and because now she's free to kiss more frogs, looking for her mythical prince.
 

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From my perspective, the biggest obstacle to yielding to common sense/enlightened self-interest, with most women, isn't necessarily a self-destructive female nature; it's primarily weakness, in that they're too easily influenced by the opinions of their friends/family/peers/classmates/coworkers/strangers/entertainment/news/whatever, which isn't even a distinctly female failing. Being too easily influenced against one's own long-term self-interest is a classic human failing, most common to children and weak men. Women just happen to be children, and men are inclined to forget this fact.

She'll go back to her support group, with this new development, and they'll encourage her to do something else stupid(as if she were their NASA test-monkey), until their advice finally irreparably ruins your relationship...at which point they'll convince her how smart she was(as she sobs uncontrollably) to follow their advice(by pushing whatever self-destruct button), because "it was never going to work out, anyway," and because now she's free to kiss more frogs, looking for her mythical prince.
Anything is possible, but I ain't bending.
 
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