Girls Don't Recognize my Intentions: Showing Intent

[SW15]

I wouldn't even consider "you look familiar" direct game. Direct game would be the "I thought you were cute and just wanted to say hi." By telling her that you think she's cute, let's her know that your attracted to her. She then knows that you want to smash. But, thats the only complement on her looks I would give. Never over complement women on there looks.

Agree on this. Women knowing intent is good.

 

[samspade]

Hey @samspade , I used your line "Whoa, slow down. I just met you " and it worked out pretty decently well lol. I was going to just give up on her after that. I decided to not totally blow her off, and said "I thought you were cute and seemed cool, so I wanted to grab a drink with you." I was like she can come through if she wants. I'm going to the bar either way.

So I thought she was just totally going to blow me off, but then she actually started blowing up my phone. Here's the text messages she sent after she hit me with that "platonic" shyt. I was working on my purpose that day and then she just started blowing up my phone, four text messages in a row lol.

Her Messages:
1.) Perfect thank you lol. sorry I just wanted to make sure. not trying to be weird.
2.) you seem super cool and i would love to grab a drink
3.) I'm just with someone and I wanted to make sure. he's totally cool with me having a drink but not a date so that's why I asked
4.) And now I seem like a creepy weirdo

So she actually ended up coming through. She's 23, and damnnnn she has a nice ass body. I was already at a bar, and she ended up coming through to hang out and get a drink.

The jacked up part is that she ended up coming to the bar WITH her fvck buddy. Who is 53 lol. She straight up said that she likes older men. SHE HAS NO INTEREST. I don't care about her anymore, but I want to know how to stop situations like this from happening in the future.

So I was just hanging at the bar with my friends, talking to her occasionally and she was having a conversation with her friends too. I learned several insane things about this biatch:

1.) She has daddy issues and is into older men(50s and up)
2.) She has a fvck buddy AND a kinda sorta boyfriend... and is apparently also engaged?
3.) But she still grabs my butt and tells me I have a really nice ass lol
4.) She has a fiance but is fvcking at least 2 other dudes on the side
5.) Some dude was trying to fly her out to Tampa, Florida but her "fiance" made her cancel the trip
6.) She's been doing cocaine since she was 16 years old
7.) I happened to glance over at her phone. Her "boyfriend" was blowing it up, asking where she was at and why she was lying to him. She sent him a pic and he was typing out shyt like "that proves nothing" or whatever.
8.) She is bisexual

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Soooo..... I was wondering if one of you guys could provide me an interpretation of what this situation is saying about my game? I am absolutely floored. I just don't even know how to deal with women like this at all lol. I'm about massive action... I want to get better with women in general and learn from this experience. You would THINK a chick who is fvcking all these dudes would be easy to get? But maybe not lol.

So what is the game telling me? How can I stop bullshyt situations like this from even happening? So far, I know it's saying:

1.) If a chick is fvcking all these dudes, but she won't fvck you and gives you the runaround, she's basically saying "you're not good enough for me. Your SMV is too low." So like others said, I need to get my SMV higher.
2.) Girls are absolutely fvcking crazy, and are usually fvcking multiple dudes at a time. Even when they are in a relationship.
3.) I think that intent can still be an issue for me, but like Mike said, interested chicks will help you out. This particular chick is just not interested. She probably wouldn't have even mentioned that "platonic" shyt if she were actually interested.
4.) Fvck mainstream society's narrative. You can ABSOLUTELY be fvcking young, attractive, 20-something year old chicks in your 50s.

Sorry for the wall of text. I just wanted to tell this absolutely insane story, thought it was pretty interesting. And I wanted to get an interpretation... I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing wrong and how I can stop BS situations like this from happening lol. Good reference experience as I continue to deal with chicks in the future.

@samspade , since you read Roosh, I guess the way that Roosh would put it, her Attraction is Medium-Low and her Availability is Low because she's already fvcking all of these other dudes. She has no empty slot in her pen1s pipeline for me to fit into. The solution would be to just keep becoming more attractive, and find chicks who have an empty slot in their pipeline if I'm reading into this right.

I see that her pen1s pipeline is full. But on the other hand, I'm worrying if a chick is fvcking all these dudes, if I were attractive enough wouldn't I be able to slide in there and fvck her too? Yet another clue to increase my SMV. Or is Roosh right in that she's already getting lots of d!ck so she doesn't see me as important? I'm not quite sure, if someone could clarify this for me it'd be awesome and really help my game. I'm not exactly sure where the trail of breadcrumbs is leading.

@SW15 if you can go through this long ass story, I'd like your opinion too. Since you read Roosh I'm especially curious what you think about the "pen1s pipeline/sexual availability" thing and if it's accurate. That changes how I need to approach my game.

I missed the part where she told you outright that your SMV was too low. Did you try a move? Or were you thrown for a loop because this girl's a swinger or whatever?

Don't get me wrong. She's fukked up. That doesn't mean she wouldn't bang you though. At what point did this become apparent to you?

And I look at it like this - at the very least you have a fun story to tell and a fun experience under your belt. Not every drink will result in a lay. I get that you're trying to maximize the ratio, but relax and enjoy it. The girl sounds like a wild trip. Consider this, if she'd offered to fukk you, you might have even turned her down. The only difference is you'd "feel" like you had a higher SMV only because some arbitrary set of movements on the date.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I missed the part where she told you outright that your SMV was too low. Did you try a move? Or were you thrown for a loop because this girl's a swinger or whatever?

Don't get me wrong. She's fukked up. That doesn't mean she wouldn't bang you though. At what point did this become apparent to you?

And I look at it like this - at the very least you have a fun story to tell and a fun experience under your belt. Not every drink will result in a lay. I get that you're trying to maximize the ratio, but relax and enjoy it. The girl sounds like a wild trip. Consider this, if she'd offered to fukk you, you might have even turned her down. The only difference is you'd "feel" like you had a higher SMV only because some arbitrary set of movements on the date.

Sometimes babes only have a certain amount of "seats". Your only way in is one of the seats and her have to fall off

 

[nicksaiz65]

I missed the part where she told you outright that your SMV was too low. Did you try a move? Or were you thrown for a loop because this girl's a swinger or whatever?

Don't get me wrong. She's fukked up. That doesn't mean she wouldn't bang you though. At what point did this become apparent to you?

And I look at it like this - at the very least you have a fun story to tell and a fun experience under your belt. Not every drink will result in a lay. I get that you're trying to maximize the ratio, but relax and enjoy it. The girl sounds like a wild trip. Consider this, if she'd offered to fukk you, you might have even turned her down. The only difference is you'd "feel" like you had a higher SMV only because some arbitrary set of movements on the date.

You're right. She never told me my SMV was low, and I didn't get a chance to make a move on her really.

I did get thrown for a loop when she had that boyfriend and she hit me with that platonic shyt. She's basically telling me "I have a boyfriend." But true players know how to deal with that imo. Plus if she's already fvcking other people....

I need to learn to fvck girls with boyfriends eventually. So, this is as good a chance to practice as any.

She texted me today actually, saying she "wants a do-over with me" lol. So you know what, I'll bite. I'll just use the Roosh V strategy of fvcking a girl with a boyfriend. Talk to her like she's a friend, but touch her and game her like a girl you want to fvck.

I'm gaming other girls in the meantime so I don't get one-itis.

But I'll go for the pvssy. If she bites, great. If she doesn't, oh well. Like you said if nothing else it'll be a great story.

Thanks for saving me from rejecting myself Sam! I really enjoy your posts!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You're right. She never told me my SMV was low, and I didn't get a chance to make a move on her really.

I did get thrown for a loop when she had that boyfriend and she hit me with that platonic shyt. She's basically telling me "I have a boyfriend." But true players know how to deal with that imo. Plus if she's already fvcking other people....

I need to learn to fvck girls with boyfriends eventually. So, this is as good a chance to practice as any.

She texted me today actually, saying she "wants a do-over with me" lol. So you know what, I'll bite. I'll just use the Roosh V strategy of fvcking a girl with a boyfriend. Talk to her like she's a friend, but touch her and game her like a girl you want to fvck.

I'm gaming other girls in the meantime so I don't get one-itis.

But I'll go for the pvssy. If she bites, great. If she doesn't, oh well. Like you said if nothing else it'll be a great story.

Thanks for saving me from rejecting myself Sam! I really enjoy your posts!

If she wants a do over your in like Flynn. Just have her swing thru Netflix and chill style.

 

[samspade]

You're right. She never told me my SMV was low, and I didn't get a chance to make a move on her really.

I did get thrown for a loop when she had that boyfriend and she hit me with that platonic shyt. She's basically telling me "I have a boyfriend." But true players know how to deal with that imo. Plus if she's already fvcking other people....

I need to learn to fvck girls with boyfriends eventually. So, this is as good a chance to practice as any.

She texted me today actually, saying she "wants a do-over with me" lol. So you know what, I'll bite. I'll just use the Roosh V strategy of fvcking a girl with a boyfriend. Talk to her like she's a friend, but touch her and game her like a girl you want to fvck.

I'm gaming other girls in the meantime so I don't get one-itis.

But I'll go for the pvssy. If she bites, great. If she doesn't, oh well. Like you said if nothing else it'll be a great story.

Thanks for saving me from rejecting myself Sam! I really enjoy your posts!

Good job. I meant to add, she's been qualifying herself to you. "I'm a creepy weirdo " and "I want a do-over with you." The moments have passed, but keep your radar up for these things, they're a great chance to pull rank. E.g., "You're a little creepy, but I don't know if you're a total weirdo...we'll find out." The do-over request gives you all kinds of possibilities to play around.

 

[In2theGame]

I was going for a 9th Bang this weekend. I invited another girl in my phone out for drinks. And then I get this message:

"Completely platonic, right? I'm sorry I just have to ask. I need to know intentions up front so I'm not in an awkward situation. I'd love to grab a drink and come see the show, but I just want to make sure we are on the same page ahead of time!"

Man i would of had a field day with this one. She gave you the perfect opportunity to let her know what's up. I would have answered..

"Completely Platonic? No, I'm inviting you out because I think you're very sexy and I'm very sexually attracted to you" - She would of had a "omg" moment while reading that because most guys wouldn't be that straight up. Maybe even screenshot your message to one of her girlfriends.

If she denied this, Then good! because now you know she would of been a waste of time and/or money. Her interest wasn't there to begin with. if she accepts, then she knows upfront what you want/expect.

 

[Means1988]

Yeah I'm done with her. The only reason I typed up that whole long story is that I want to learn from this, and improve it in the future. And make sure I'm understanding the fundamentals of game right. Fvck her lol

simple as this. Either she wants you or she doesn’t, you don’t think anything else.

 

[Means1988]

I was thinking on it, and I posted the full story about this crazy ass biatch. But at the end of the day, like you said, she is not complying. Any chick who brings up some "platonic" shyt on a date isn't complying at all. If she doesn't comply, NEXT.

I still think showing intent is kind of an issue in my game. I'm thinking back to when that chick came over to my room, and she was shocked when I tried to kiss her. So I'll do that more with Statements of Intent and Direct Game.

But yeah man. Long story short, I need to NEXT this chick and get my SMV up.

I believe you put too much feelings in her.
Go do your things with other chicks, when she asks how you are, say “couldn’t be better”.. it’s more words than “good” or “great” so it doesn’t seem but hurt.

when she asks “what you doing”, tell her whatever you wish. Meeting up with a chick, not sure what to buy for a girls you’re so into, etc...

Let her feel less as a woman to a man like you. These things do that because a woman can not understand why a man would do something for another woman he isn’t doing for her, no matter what the situation is.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Hey guys! Unfortunately, I have to post a thread about how I'm fvcking up again lol.

So I got an 8th Bang just yesterday, I was very excited about that. You can read about it here:

A Small COVID-19 Field Report 2 (Bang Report 8)

Hey guys. I was just able to land some new pvssy over quarantine. I thought I would type up a field report to lay down the basics, talk about where I can improve, and inspire some of you all to get out there and meet new women! How we Met I met this girl through a Cold Approach at a bar...

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I was going for a 9th Bang this weekend. I invited another girl in my phone out for drinks. And then I get this message:

"Completely platonic, right? I'm sorry I just have to ask. I need to know intentions up front so I'm not in an awkward situation. I'd love to grab a drink and come see the show, but I just want to make sure we are on the same page ahead of time!"

Ughhhhh lol. Some would say this is just an issue of low attraction(raising your SMV indeed prevents you from being friendzoned like this), but I've noticed that this has been a pattern with me. Girls don't recognize my intentions. I remember last semester I invited a girl back to my dorm room to "study," and she freaked out when I leaned in to kiss her. I guess she thought I actually wanted to just study at my room. This also happened a third time with a different girl in the past. So this is a recurring issue.

Whenever I come up and approach these girls and stuff, some of them think I'm just being friendly. I'm not intentionally trying to friend my way into the pvssy, but even with the touching and teases some girls think I'm just being friendly. A member on here linked me to some David Snyder videos about this which I need to watch.

I used to think that as long as I touched a girl, made strong eye contact, had a good tone of voice, and flirted with her she would get my intentions, and a lot of it would come through in the subcommunications. But I don't think that's working or happening for me...

Of course Direct Game, which I've been doing way more of, completely solves this issue. I opened this particular girl with "You look familiar. Do I know you from somewhere?" which I would call somewhat direct, but apparently it wasn't enough. I'm about to start going really hard with the good old "I thought you were cute and just wanted to say hi." A direct game classic lol.

For girls that I can't just straight up open with that, such as in social circle, I'm thinking that I may just have to start using Statements of Intent. Things like "I like your energy" have NOT been working for me at all.

I'm not a very subtle person at all. I'm thinking that I'm just going to have to go all the way back to "Level One" intent and make sure I use my intent on the verbal level every time I want to get with a girl, and kind of smack her over the head with my intent lol.

Sorry if this is a little rant. I just wanted to make sure that I got all of my thoughts out onto paper.

I was wondering what you guys thought? How would you solve this issue? I'm thinking that for me, I should go back to "Level One" intent and just vocalize it so that I don't end up in situations like this. Hopefully this won't turn into a Direct vs Indirect war in the comments.

I haven't read any other answers in this post, but I'll give you my thoughts:

RULE: Women are like ovens, men are like blowtorches. Translation: Generally speaking, women take more time to warm up to a guy they don't know very well. About 1000 reasons for this but safety, biological programming, and that fact women have more to consider before jumping in the sack are the main ones.

So, I've actually had this situation come up in years past and here's how I handled it:

Take her up on her offer. Message her back, "Yeah, platonic is totally cool. Drinks, food, and laughs! My place (or name the place) at 7:00." Then, when you're there, work your charm.

Many women place personality higher on the list more than men and women place HUGE emphasis on HOW you make them feel. So, if you're smiling, telling funny stories, asking her questions, giving her some s*hit and teasing a bit, you'll loosen her up. Keep the drinks flowing too. Order a unique appetizer. Maybe take her to a couple spots. Keep her laughing and having fun. When walking with her especially when you enter or leave a building, softly place your hand on the small of her back and guide her. Despite what you watch in porn movies, women like to go slow, get teased, and are all about subtle touch. Then, read her body language and signals and if she's receptive, get her back to your place, make some drinks. Have a conversation on the couch, and after maybe 15-20 minutes, slowly take the drink out of her hand and go in for a kiss and see what happens. If she pulls back, no worries. Give it another 15 minutes and try again. If she pulls back again then, I'd tell her you have to get up early and call it a night. Let her reach out to you and maybe give her one more shot if YOU had a good time. If not, well, you gave it 100% and move on.

Follow this formula and you'll increase your chances for a f*uck by 200%.

Good luck.

~Dash~

 

[nicksaiz65]

I haven't read any other answers in this post, but I'll give you my thoughts:

RULE: Women are like ovens, men are like blowtorches. Translation: Generally speaking, women take more time to warm up to a guy they don't know very well. About 1000 reasons for this but safety, biological programming, and that fact women have more to consider before jumping in the sack are the main ones.

So, I've actually had this situation come up in years past and here's how I handled it:

Take her up on her offer. Message her back, "Yeah, platonic is totally cool. Drinks, food, and laughs! My place (or name the place) at 7:00." Then, when you're there, work your charm.

Many women place personality higher on the list more than men and women place HUGE emphasis on HOW you make them feel. So, if you're smiling, telling funny stories, asking her questions, giving her some s*hit and teasing a bit, you'll loosen her up. Keep the drinks flowing too. Order a unique appetizer. Maybe take her to a couple spots. Keep her laughing and having fun. When walking with her especially when you enter or leave a building, softly place your hand on the small of her back and guide her. Despite what you watch in porn movies, women like to go slow, get teased, and are all about subtle touch. Then, read her body language and signals and if she's receptive, get her back to your place, make some drinks. Have a conversation on the couch, and after maybe 15-20 minutes, slowly take the drink out of her hand and go in for a kiss and see what happens. If she pulls back, no worries. Give it another 15 minutes and try again. If she pulls back again then, I'd tell her you have to get up early and call it a night. Let her reach out to you and maybe give her one more shot if YOU had a good time. If not, well, you gave it 100% and move on.

Follow this formula and you'll increase your chances for a f*uck by 200%.

Good luck.

~Dash~

This is an extremely interesting perspective. Your game seems similar to Roosh V's in that regard. When a girl says "I have a BF" you agree verbally but keep your physical escalation game the same.

So you've had this exact situation before from a chick? How'd that play out, when she said that? You've got me curious now haha.