Ghosted by yet another woman, I don't get it.

marmel75

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Yes....I know. Like you said......that's literally it.

And you see NO PROBLEM in all this?

In your first post,in the 4th paragraph,you said......




You said "chronic ghosting over and over". So I take it this wasn't the first time this happened.......

or the second
or the third.....
or 4th....5th,6th,etc,etc. So everywhere YOU go,"chronic ghosting" also shows up.

So the girl may be different,but it's the same guy (YOU) over and over again.

One time it might be "Susie",the next "Linda"....."Amanda","April",Lucy","Amber","Ginger","Melissa","Rachel"....on and on and on and on.......it may be a THOUSAND DIFFERENT GIRLS.....but the ONE CONSTANT......the ONE THING that NEVER CHANGES and is ALWAYS THERE.......is YOU. And when YOU are there,"chronic ghosting" isn't far behind.


Sir......do you think maybe the problem.....is YOU? If this problem shows up everywhere YOU go,do you think it might be time to take a look at how YOU INTERACT with women and see if there's something YOU can change?

You keep seeming to want to blame the women,accusing them of "leading you on". Not every girl....just the ones YOU come in contact with. Every girl you try to talk to,"Oh.....well she led me on". Sir....do you know you can't have a leader without a follower?


You're the MAN here......YOU should be leading. If EVERY GIRL you come in contact with seems to be "leading you on",maybe you ought to check your MANHOOD card.


Go check yourself for a second....have a look in the mirror. See if you can see what the rest of the forum CLEARLY SEES about you.
Ive said the same thing on multiple occasions...its never him, always the woman.
 
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Ive said the same thing on multiple occasions...its never him, always the woman.
He's an intellectual, they're born slower in the sphere of social interactions.

A sacrifice to bring forth their intellectualism.

What comes naturally to you or me will be dissected and assigned a rational thought by him but even then he will miss most of the shades of a particular emotional expression.

A single emotional response can have plenty of nuances depending on a situation.

This confuses him as he doesn't sees or feels it, he is only able to memorised it through rationality and thus is limited.
 

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He's an intellectual, they're born slower in the sphere of social interactions.

A sacrifice to bring forth their intellectualism.

What comes naturally to you or me will be dissected and assigned a rational thought by him but even then he will miss most of the shades of a particular emotional expression.

A single emotional response can have plenty of nuances depending on a situation.

This confuses him as he doesn't sees or feels it, he is only able to memorised it through rationality and thus is limited.
I have a cousin who is an intellectual. We spent the July 4 the weekend at a creek house. It was actually 3 creek houses right in front of a river that you can swim in. Really beautiful setting. The people, however, were a different story.

At some point I was acting too dominant and a woman tried to neg me. I automatically put her in her place (which strangely turned her on. I think she was just happy she got my attention). But then like 5 beta orbiters tried to get me to conform to her. I openly called them beta cucks and told them how their supplicating behavior will never impress women. They couldn't look me in the eye because they knew it was true.

The sad thing was, this woman was dating one of my cousins. But she was acting like a complete attention wh0re, gathering beta orbiters, negging the alpha, and turning herself on in the process. I guess that's what women do to get off these days. Even ones with boyfriends that are present.

The next day my intellectual cousin thought I was being a bit harsh and asked me if i knew who the woman was. I told him that I don't give a damn who she is. Who she is is irrelevant. If someone acts entitled, I will put her in her place. It took me about two hours to explain these social concepts to him:

-The person who stands up for himself is most likely to get ostrasized. Especially in the presence of an attention wh0re and beta cucks. But he has to be unreactive and reframe his environment.

-Most guys are beta cucks who act disengenuous because they want to get laid or validation. They will throw you under the bus just to try to impress the woman. But the woman is actually attracted to the lone maverick who doesn't try to impress anyone or care about what people think.

-Most women are attention wh0res and offer no value to the interaction besides seeing how much attention and validation they can extract by manipulation and using one guy against another. Alot of women are so insecure that they would rather keep their 9 betas than submit to the alpha because of all that ego validation. It's beyond sex and romance for entitled women. It's about ego validation.

-The interaction I was in was completely phoney. Just like most social interactions. There's a reason why most people can't stand family gatherings. We are forced to interact with people we didn't choose, lol. And we are forced to respect as$holes and attention wh0res just because someone is dating someone who is related to us.

After explaining this all to him, he finally admitted that this was what he expected all along but was just testing me because he was unsure of what he was observing. Almost as if his reality is so stuck in the matrix, it was hard for him to see the blinding light of truth.

It was hard for him to accept the manipulation and ego games that was going on amongst adults. He lives in a world of petty romance and the Queen Bee is his goddess.

So he tested me to make sure he wasn't seeing things. And I stood my ground. The now he realized some horrifying truths..that most women are a complete watse of time, manipulative, ruthless when it comes to extracting ego validation, inject themselves into the interaction for their vanity only, and offer absolutely nothing to the conversation. They just sit there and judge. They either judge you or the moment for not being entertaining enough. He also realized that most guys are spineless cucks who will throw their own fellow man under the bus just for a little bit of validation. There is no loyalty amongst cucks.

In the end, he came to the conclusion that the entire weekend was a complete waste of time besides being able to spend time with the kids (nephews, nieces) simply because kids act with more integrity.
 
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I have a cousin who is an intellectual. We spent the July 4 the weekend at a creek house. It was actually 3 creek houses right in front of a river that you can swim in. Really beautiful setting. The people, however, were a different story.

At some point I was acting too dominant and a woman tried to neg me. I automatically put her in her place (which strangely turned her on. I think she was just happy she got my attention). But then like 5 beta orbiters tried to get me to conform to her. I openly called them beta cucks and told them how their supplicating behavior will never impress women. They couldn't look me in the eye because they knew it was true.

The sad thing was, this woman was dating one of my cousins. But she was acting like a complete attention wh0re, gathering beta orbiters, negging the alpha, and turning herself on in the process. I guess that's what women do to get off these days. Even ones with boyfriends that are present.

The next day my intellectual cousin thought I was being a bit harsh and asked me if i knew who the woman was. I told him that I don't give a damn who she is. Who she is is irrelevant. If someone acts entitled, I will put her in her place. It took me about two hours to explain these social concepts to him:

-The person who stands up for himself is most likely to get ostrasized. Especially in the presence of an attention wh0re and beta cucks. But he has to be unreactive and reframe his environment.

-Most guys are beta cucks who act disengenuous because they want to get laid or validation. They will throw you under the bus just to try to impress the woman. But the woman is actually attracted to the lone maverick who doesn't try to impress anyone or care about what people think.

-Most women are attention wh0res and offer no value to the interaction besides seeing how much attention and validation they can extract by manipulation and using one guy against another. Alot of women are so insecure that they would rather keep their 9 betas than submit to the alpha because of all that ego validation. It's beyond sex and romance for entitled women. It's about ego validation.

-The interaction I was in was completely phoney. Just like most social interactions. There's a reason why most people can't stand family gatherings. We are forced to interact with people we didn't choose, lol. And we are forced to respect as$holes and attention wh0res just because someone is dating someone who is related to us.

After explaining this all to him, he finally admitted that this was what he expected all along but was just testing me because he was unsure of what he was observing. Almost as if his reality is so stuck in the matrix, it was hard for him to see the blinding light of truth.

It was hard for him to accept the manipulation and ego games that was going on amongst adults. He lives in a world of petty romance and the Queen Bee is his goddess.

So he tested me to make sure he wasn't seeing things. And I stood my ground. The now he realized some horrifying truths..that most women are a complete watse of time, manipulative, ruthless when it comes to extracting ego validation, inject themselves into the interaction for their vanity only, and offer absolutely nothing to the conversation. They just sit there and judge. They either judge you or the moment for not being entertaining enough. He also realized that most guys are spineless cucks who will throw their own fellow man under the bus just for a little bit of validation. There is no loyalty amongst cucks.

In the end, he came to the conclusion that the entire weekend was a complete waste of time besides being able to spend time with the kids (nephews, nieces) simply because kids act with more integrity.
In another thread I've mentioned that passives (intellectuals and expressives) are driven by 70% ego and 30% determination.

That's the normal range, but those in the genius level shall be driven much higher by their ego, perhaps going as much as 90% ego driven and just 10% determination.

My definition of ego = narratives one makes in his life and the pursuit or adherence of it.

In the genius mode....

The expressives will create a multihue of egos or life stories within the overall picture of their own reality, pretty little fantastic fantasies that they struggle to meet simply because there's so many.

That's how great artists, Pua's, actors, musicians, singers, etc are born and yet still feel unfulfilled as they could have dozens of egos to fulfil.

The intellectuals will do the same but their story is one of rationality, space, time etc to be consumed by searching for answers, the more they know the more they seek because one solved puzzle opens up another can of puzzles to be solved.

Both are dreamers within their own minds, one in fantasy and the other in rationality.

The opposite holds true to the dominants (doers and motivators).

With 70% determination and 30% ego for the normal dominant.

The dominants has less or a simple life story, hence the lesser drama, its mainly rooted in being excellent on one singularity.

The motivators seeks power and thus expands his thinking to think of the impossible. Most will end up as CEO's as they go about conquering the impossible.

The doers seeks perfection, the natural perfectionist, not in looks or fame but in his personal abilities, most are incredible engineers, gifted warriors, builders, sportsman's etc. They will flawlessly find the shortest most efficient route to achieve something. What we see all around us are one way or the other made by them, rockets, great machines, you name it they're made it.

Each of those I named above plays a symbiotic role to the other, the expressives provides the entertainment or drama to us all, the intellectuals provide us with all the formula's, the doers builds what the motivators of the world comes up with.

But then women are made up of all those traits listed above, with one being more dominant then the rest but never reaching the level of genius, this doesn't make them stupid as this gives them an incredible edge to manipulate situations where a man is absent in a particular quadrant, even if a woman is in an intellectual quadrant she will have traits of the expressives too, you can guess how easily she could emotionally manipulate an intellectual.

In the end women are just multitaskers and their desire to manipulate men is just born out of limitations that's naturally and biologically placed on them.

Long post but this is more for ur benefit and if you think deeper into the summary I wrote here you'll be so far ahead then the rest of humanity, this knowledge alone gives you an immense power of influence when applied.
 

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Really? There was just an article on yahoo about a guy who went and got a gun, came back and shot and killed a woman after she rejected him.

People are psychotic these days so I can see why women would be more scared than ever to tell a guy no.
I’ve had girls do some crazy stuff to me but that doesn’t make me gun shy around ALL women because a few went crazy on me. Women just don’t want to give you a straight answer, it’s been that way since I’ve been alive. This isn’t anything new and it wasn’t ever about “oh we can’t say no flat out because the guy might do something bad to us”, it’s just a convenient excuse to answer for their shady behavior. Some guys do come on too strong, no denying that, but a lot of women also will string a guy along without any intentions of dating him too.
 
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I'm curious as to how many guys here can dress up like a low status, pizza boy and get an attractive, 20-something woman to agree to go out on a date with them in the time it takes to exchange a pizza at her doorstep. I would bet 95% of those guys would FAIL.

But he did it.
She said yes.
She even confirmed name and contact info with that first text he sent.

Why are you guys so hung up on this pizza thing and bagging on him for it?

Half of you guys would be bragging about this feat if you were the ones pulling it off, no?

Clearly something went wrong after the interaction. And because the exchange was so simplistic, it should be obvious (short of her being vindictive and just f-cking with him) that he got too excited/eager, she picked up on that very quickly and that had her second guessing everything very quickly.

It was only then that his "low status" became the hindrance.

This makes perfect sense in scenarios where a woman will have an interest that can be fickle and temped due to extremely minimal comfort, minimal emotional investment established, etc.
Completely agree.
 
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