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Getting Sex is Easy, Finding a Good Relationship Is Hard

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Getting sex is as easy as it's ever been. Some reasons AF is easy these days-

1. So many out of shape men. All one has to do is hit the gym hard and they are going to physically dominate the majority even if they do nothing else.
2. So many beta/blue pill men out there. Just being masculine separates a man from the pack.
3. Zero social stigma anymore for women to have sex out of wedlock.

Relationships are harder than it has ever been. Some reasons-

1. Financial. No one can afford to support a family anymore. The part that makes it a double bubble is that social expectations have not caught up to reality, so you still have women that expect the middle class lifestyle that is largely out of reach for the majority.
2. BIG ONE- Anti male, anti masculine toxic masculinity and misandry programming causes men to be held in low esteem other than the stratosphere/ top 1%. Women don't respect their man, and they leave or don't couple in the first place because of it.
3. Porn and hook up culture. Women are destroyed by the time they hit 25 from having sex with too many guys. Very sad, indeed.
4. No fault divorce/family industrial complex that will send droves of lawyers, police, and bureaucrats to a woman's aid for financial and emotional support if she doesn't want husband/ baby daddy.

women want and need sex just as much as men.
 
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I disagree, relationships with the man even having more than 40% power purchasing power are completely dead. You can easily put yourself in a simpanzee slave relationship with a woman and get treated like her pet dog. We want a relationship to be 60% in our favor at the least, but women have gotten so far ahead in the dating game that it's more like men are limited to 30%.

You participating in her narcisstist Olympics by gaming her for 6 months until she gets bored isn't a relationship at all either.
 

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I mean #1 is just ridiculous. "Nobody" can afford to support a family? That is just utter nonsense in pretty much every way.

What you mean is that people who have poor financial skills would be forced to stop flushing money down the drain and actually be responsible with it.
 

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I’ve had no trouble finding relationships with submissive women that were delightful. You just have to be a volume shooter and screen properly. Try to rail every chick you can. Roughly one out of every 20 prospects is a decent enough gal.

Men, perfect your game so that you are screening them out rather than vice versa.
 

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All my LTRs started with sex.

Most of them were from social circle so we had already known each other somehow, but the transition from acquaintances to sex happened very quick once the opportunity arose. No gaming for a long period of time hoping for the payoff. The time between the woman knowing you like her and having sex should be minimal.

Escalate to sex as fast as possible then screen accordingly after that.
 
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All my LTRs started with sex.

Most of them were from social circle so we had already known each other somehow, but the transition from acquaintances to sex happened very quick once the opportunity arose. No gaming for a long period of time hoping for the payoff. The time between the woman knowing you like her and having sex should be minimal.

Escalate to sex as fast as possible then screen accordingly after that.
and I know a guy that thinks exactly like you and has literally been cheated on in the most horrifying ways in every relationship he has been in
 
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Why are you so horrifically, pessimisticly, negative?

The world isn’t out to get you.

Calm down.
Why do you get so triggered when people don't want to waste their time talking to sloots? You Gen Xers need to understand that the dating game has changed and instead of gaming toxic women we choose to avoid them.
 
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I spend most of my energy on Gen Z women. And have no major issues.

Sure, every now and then, one will take me for a spin, but I don’t let it scar me for life.
Good for you, I have 3 Gen Z gfs, and I'm pretty active on the OLD scene. Why is it such a sin to vent about the bs. I know doctors, I know models, and high smv men that literally complain about the same **** I do, so I know it's not just me. If you have zero problems with quality single women then you need to go write a book, start a vlog or something because apparently you are killing it dude. I will go look through your topics and I swear if I see a topic about you and some single mom you are screwed lol.
 
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Yeah, she's bangable. But not like long-term rotation material. Really really cute face. Nose ring. But she smoked about 3 cigarettes in the 30 minutes we were talking at my table.

I offered her a breath mint and she goes, "No thanks. I'm probably gonna have another cigarette."

Still, I had about 5 drinks in me and was feeling real good about myself...so we kissed and all that, but yeah, I woke up this morning (er...afternoon) and was like, 'ehhh...' "

That was so damn easy....Look at you over here going after low quality girl that smokes and has a nose ring lmao.

I don't go for women that smoke cigarettes lmao
 

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All interactions with women should start with sex. After you've banged her multiple times and she is displaying the right behavior then you can think about upgrading her.

Starting your interactions with women from a "I want a relationship" position is a very bad idea. Aside the reasons you've already listed, if a girl knows you are looking for a relationship then she gets turned off because she sees you as needy.
How do you deal with a woman who says she’s looking for a relationship then?
 
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No you don’t.

You created a thread where you were all panicky about your “girlfriend” meeting your folks.

You’ve also created a thread whining about not being able to get a second date with women.

Post a picture of yourself with one of these “girlfriends” of yours.
what thread of her meeting folks?

Second dates are harder to get then you think. Sorry I'm not going after single mom nose ring chicks that chain smoke. My complains comply with the chicks I am going after. Jesus christ I didn't get a second date with a 9/10 alpha widow chick that used to date a NFL player. DANG I"M shocked
 

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Yeah. There's a huge number of high quality simps with money in Sydney that are ruining women.

Most women expect you to take them to a restaurant on a first date here, because they've been conditioned by pay pigs.

The only way around this is to lure her out for a coffee date, or a drinks date and then seduce in person. I have a nice car too so sometimes I'll offer to pick her up. These are my solutions, but many girls will insist on elaborate first dates.
Do you really think it's the guys with money that are having the most success?

I honestly have no idea what people do. I don't even desire to go on dates.
 

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and I know a guy that thinks exactly like you and has literally been cheated on in the most horrifying ways in every relationship he has been in
Wait, I forgot what we are complaining about. Not being able to find a relationship quality woman?

My point is that all relationships should start with sex. Yes, even with the good girls.

Where do you want to be? With a girl that is attracted to you enough that she couldn't wait, or with one that you had to wear down over time and negotiate desire with?

Sex ASAP, then if she's not what you're looking for, NEXT. If she is, keep banging her and wait for her to bring up a relationship. But having to wait for sex does not make her high quality, and banging the first night does not make her low quality/low hanging fruit.
 
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Do you really think it's the guys with money that are having the most success?

I honestly have no idea what people do. I don't even desire to go on dates.
I mean there's Me Too, there's celeb divorces, there's this


If you think money and looks protects you from women than you are literally putting your head in the sand my friend.
 

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Most women say they are looking for relationships, and then go out and get pumped and dumped by Chad.

Don't listen to what women say they want. They have no idea.
Yes I know that, but I’ve tried calling them out before or said things like “I don’t believe you” or whatnot but they just double down or block me. So how do you deal with that? Or is that response by her simply a sign she sees me as beta?
 

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How do you deal with a woman who says she’s looking for a relationship then?
Pay little attention to what women say, focus on their actions more. Its her actions that should tell you she wants a relationship, not her mouth.

Millions of men have ignored major red flags at their own peril because they listened to what women said to them.
 
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