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Some of them have vanished.
They are no longer living.
What they taught me is in me and helps me form the words I'm typing right now.

Back to this thread topic and realisation I had, I still don't understand how watching the girls reactions to the buff guy in the omegle social experiment video made me want to stop eating junk food.
I must be gay.
I must feel like I want some of those girls' reactions for myself.
Hence, why it was difficult to explain myself to zekko
One of those logical minded females that are rare.
 

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Some of them have vanished.
They are no longer living.
What they taught me is in me and helps me form the words I'm typing right now.

Back to this thread topic and realisation I had, I still don't understand how watching the girls reactions to the buff guy in the omegle social experiment video made me want to stop eating junk food.
I must be gay.
I must feel like I want some of those girls' reactions for myself.
Hence, why it was difficult to explain myself to zekko
Why did they vanish? Natural causes or what?
 

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Why did they vanish? Natural causes or what?
Yes, of course, what a question.
A person no longer alive is someone vanished. Evaporated.

"no longer with us" like they say at funerals
 
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actually pretty young, 60's and 70's.
Even just in the past 10 years there's been alot.
One was a young dude by suicide ffs, so sad. A couple of cancers.

Some factors like drinking alcohol and smoking, not eating clean nor eating regularly or eating enough protein and vegetables. Not drinking enough water.
 
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actually pretty young, 60's and 70's.
Even just in the past 10 years there's been alot.

Some factors like drinking alcohol and smoking, not eating clean nor eating regularly or eating enough protein and vegetables. Not drinking enough water.
Yea the simple things
 

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really, aren't they though?
I'm still periodically spitting up lung butter from quitting smoking. Almost 5 months plus 1 year quit Nov '18 to Nov '19.
Started at 16. So under 30 years anyways.
So lazy of me to have used cigarettes as a social crutch and relaxation tool.
Smoking can destroy your looks just as rapidly as alcohol.
 

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actually pretty young, 60's and 70's.
Even just in the past 10 years there's been alot.
One was a young dude by suicide ffs, so sad. A couple of cancers.

Some factors like drinking alcohol and smoking, not eating clean nor eating regularly or eating enough protein and vegetables. Not drinking enough water.
Where they married, did they have GF's? How was their lovelife and friendships?
 

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Where they married, did they have GF's? How was their lovelife and friendships?
All brothers so very tight multi decade friendships(male)
one was once divorced but very happy with second lady(gf only)....break my heart she died within 3 weeks of him and she was younger...awww.
Another one, the suicide, was probable incel...late 20's, kind to me but rough with guys;

another one, died on his couch by heart attack when his woman was out getting groceries....him and his father and uncle were fishing at one of the dams when we were out there...my brother bought his first boat from the father.A kindly, older tradesman who himself died within a few years from old age but also heartbreak from the loss of his son.(longterm almost 50 yr marriage)
Like my Grandma dying 3 years after my Dad.

Another one, speeding on the highway (he was alone in car)with girlfriend and pregnancy on the way. That was a big funeral.

One that was my work partner from another locale, he would drink all night at his campsite and subsist all day on En sure drinks thinking that was enough nutrition.

Another one, a jolly loud, abrasive but lovable towards me heavy drinker and smoker. When I was still drinking he was the loudest at the bar, making us all laugh til your sides hurt. Multiple divorces, kids.

Each one of these spent significant amounts of work hours with me as my partner or same project crew. Each one of them taught me trade AND life secrets.


:confused:There's more but I'm moving this weekend and want to get going.

(pattern interruption of pain talk-learned that from studying lizard brain yesterday)
 

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All brothers so very tight multi decade friendships(male)
one was once divorced but very happy with second lady(gf only)....break my heart she died within 3 weeks of him and she was younger...awww.
Another one, the suicide, was probable incel...late 20's, kind to me but rough with guys;

another one, died on his couch by heart attack when his woman was out getting groceries....him and his father and uncle were fishing at one of the dams when we were out there...my brother bought his first boat from the father.A kindly, older tradesman who himself died within a few years from old age but also heartbreak from the loss of his son.(longterm almost 50 yr marriage)
Like my Grandma dying 3 years after my Dad.

Another one, speeding on the highway (he was alone in car)with girlfriend and pregnancy on the way. That was a big funeral.

One that was my work partner from another locale, he would drink all night at his campsite and subsist all day on En sure drinks thinking that was enough nutrition.

Another one, a jolly loud, abrasive but lovable towards me heavy drinker and smoker. When I was still drinking he was the loudest at the bar, making us all laugh til your sides hurt. Multiple divorces, kids.

Each one of these spent significant amounts of work hours with me as my partner or same project crew. Each one of them taught me trade AND life secrets.


:confused:There's more but I'm moving this weekend and want to get going.

(pattern interruption of pain talk-learned that from studying lizard brain yesterday)
4 brothers worked on the same project with you?
 
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Who says looks don't matter? But, notice that they're ogling the masculine form, more than anything else.

If John Candy had been athletic, he could've gotten similar attention. So, when the forlorn and loveless lament that "looks are A L L that matter," how much are those same guys really doing to improve how THEY T H E M S E L V E S look?

I'm completely convinced that you could do a consciousness-swap between Brad Pitt and any random, middle-aged, average height, overweight, balding, near-sighted, nerdy incel, and within 2 years(maximum), Brad would have that dude's body getting matinee-idol attention from the local honey's; meanwhile, Brad's body's new occupant would have him looking like John Candy...because "it's all about looks."

What it's really all about is the symbiosis between your inner and outer life, and realizing that our faces and bodies aren't masks that we put on for, but are avatars that we put out to the world...and they can be designed and built, interactively. If you aren't happy with yours, start designing what you want from what you have.
 

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It’s no secret that men and women alike both will show a greater degree of attraction for the more attractive members of the opposite sex.

Duh.

The problem I have with the “Looks matter” topic is not whether it matters, but how much and in what capacity.

Any man who says looks are basically everything is only focusing on the initial stages of attraction. He is focusing on the very beginning, and most likely because that is where his own issues reside which made him aware of this “truth”.
Yes, it’s true good looking guys have it easier in the initial stages. Many times it’s even effortless. Many of his faults and mistakes will be overlooked or construed differently, hence it will appear he can “get away with murder”.

But this luxury is often short lived, and it even becomes counterproductive in relationships that dig deeper.

“Chadness” is often a drama tornado beyond “hello”. Women do and think really crazy sh*t the moment they even remotely begin to think their standing with a man is threatened by other women in any way. It doesn’t matter if he is a stand up guy who doesn’t cheat and truly loves a woman. If he’s not over the top blue pill with expressing his feelings (which he won’t), drama of insecurity and jealousy will certainly ensue at some point. It’s inevitable. Even with women who are themselves very attractive.

Good looks are only everything if everything to you is sex. Good looking guys who want more than that are going to have more issues finding it than the average guy. No doubt about it.

Guys who truly have it best are those who are attractive enough to do ok with women, but not so attractive that they drive women into insecure thinking.

Average guys do have some advantages in this game. They just have to get past not having the rock star luxuries of initial attraction.

Chads are sprinters.

Average guys can run marathons.
 

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It’s no secret that men and women alike both will show a greater degree of attraction for the more attractive members of the opposite sex.

Duh.

The problem I have with the “Looks matter” topic is not whether it matters, but how much and in what capacity.

Any man who says looks are basically everything is only focusing on the initial stages of attraction. He is focusing on the very beginning, and most likely because that is where his own issues reside which made him aware of this “truth”.
Yes, it’s true good looking guys have it easier in the initial stages. Many times it’s even effortless. Many of his faults and mistakes will be overlooked or construed differently, hence it will appear he can “get away with murder”.

But this luxury is often short lived, and it even becomes counterproductive in relationships that dig deeper.

“Chadness” is often a drama tornado beyond “hello”. Women do and think really crazy sh*t the moment they even remotely begin to think their standing with a man is threatened by other women in any way. It doesn’t matter if he is a stand up guy who doesn’t cheat and truly loves a woman. If he’s not over the top blue pill with expressing his feelings (which he won’t), drama of insecurity and jealousy will certainly ensue at some point. It’s inevitable. Even with women who are themselves very attractive.

Good looks are only everything if everything to you is sex. Good looking guys who want more than that are going to have more issues finding it than the average guy. No doubt about it.

Guys who truly have it best are those who are attractive enough to do ok with women, but not so attractive that they drive women into insecure thinking.

Average guys do have some advantages in this game. They just have to get past not having the rock star luxuries of initial attraction.

Chads are sprinters.

Average guys can run marathons.
I completely agree with you in any single, what you said its true in my opinion and I believe any guy would agree.

The fact is that at the same time any guy would rather have the passionate animal sex with a girl who crave him physically first and only then seeking a relationship.

Its not about validation, not only that its about jizzing 5 metres long cause she is hot, she is horny for you and you dont need any game, frame or any other accessory to make her do something she wants to do herself already as much as you want her to do it.

An average guy having sex with a somehow attracted girl having sex with him cause she doesnt mind him and wants to make sure to secure his commitment, will in no circumstance provide what a genuinely horny attracted craving girl will.

Also there are simply many guys that are not into commitment and relationships so dont really see it as the final goal.
 
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“Chadness” is often a drama tornado beyond “hello”. Women do and think really crazy sh*t the moment they even remotely begin to think their standing with a man is threatened by other women in any way. It doesn’t matter if he is a stand up guy who doesn’t cheat and truly loves a woman. If he’s not over the top blue pill with expressing his feelings (which he won’t), drama of insecurity and jealousy will certainly ensue at some point. It’s inevitable. Even with women who are themselves very attractive.
Man, I wish I could see this behavior over Chad in action. Reading it feels like imagining a world of magic as a kid, like Harry Potter. Do you have any examples from your own life? I would love to see how they behave, it's always so interesting.
 
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Its not about validation, not only that its about jizzing 5 metres long cause she is hot, she is horny for you and you dont need any game, frame or any other accessory to make her do something she wants to do herself already as much as you want her to do it.
This is only partially true.

I might even disagree that it doesn’t take any game/frame or whatever to get a woman to open up sexually.

I’m fortunate enough to have the looks that makes things easier for me. However, it was never really the deciding factor, in my experience, to the degree that it would influence the quality of or the extent of freakiness in sex. I can say this because I have experienced many different outcomes even with the same exact looks.

What made the biggest difference was my own sexual aggression and dominance. I can’t say my looks didn’t influence their willingness to some smaller degree, but it still required taking command and asserting some dominance. Frame and a little game was required to influence women to explore sexual avenues they never did before. Those are qualities any average guy can accommodate, IMO.

Ive never experienced women who were willing to get freaky simply because I was attractive. It never really came in a bow like that, short of maybe a few rare high school and college experiences that included some very free women and mind altering substances maybe. Mostly I had to work it just the same any guy would. I just happened to develop a knack for it, which was learned. There were certainly times when I was younger where I’ve had women lose interest in me because I wasn’t aggressive enough. My looks didn’t save me then.


An average guy having sex with a somehow attracted girl having sex with him cause she doesnt mind him and wants to make sure to secure his commitment, will in no circumstance provide what a genuinely horny attracted craving girl will.
I’ve seen enough exceptions to that.

I would agree that sexual veracity can be heightened from the get go when high attraction is there. But like I said earlier, a man has to be able to frame and establish that with some level of aggression. And even then it eventually morphs.

The aggression itself will establish the sexual tone and extent of willingness, but it will quickly transform into her desire to appease him sexually in order to maintain status quo of interest. She will do it to seal and maintain his desire to the commitment.

This requires frame, and it is independent of initial factors of attraction. In fact, my own wife is now far more sexually adventurous and willing to please me in ways she didn’t do, and even resisted doing, before. I didn’t get better looking. She just fell harder.
 

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Damn I wish I had his inner game...


Dont look at the guy, look at the girl's faces, you cant get that "with your frame".

Btw if you know that guy, you know that he is basically mentally retarded with a mosquito IQ.
Alot of fine babes same iq. They live in a physical realm and get away with alot.
 

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women ... explore sexual avenues they never did before.

In fact, my own wife is now far more sexually adventurous and willing to please me in ways she didn’t do, and even resisted doing, before.
What avenues and ways are you referencing specifically? Public sex? anal sex? swallowing? threesome?
 

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Lactating sex maybe.
 
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