Fellas stop thinking you're not good looking enough

[corrector]

You wrote: "We didn't do much talking at all. I ended up watching something on my Tablet and she scrolled down her phone and ended up talking to someone else"

That's not even close to "approaching", as The OP really did. Though I suspect we may have discovered what's truly hamstringing you, C.... Early onset Alzheimer's

She was asked out and she said maybe. There was a second lunch where we did talk. Allot of posters told me to back away after I got rejected twice by her.

Its like you are focusing on chapter two of a book,.forgetting about chapter three and then saying you read the whole book.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Men shouldn't be "competing" for women because they don't really offer much outside of sex and child bearing

Quite an important thing to compete over, perhaps the most important thing to some people.

 

[BaronOfHair]

She was asked out and she said maybe. There was a second lunch where we did talk. Allot of posters told me to back away after I got rejected twice by her.

Its like you are focusing on chapter two of a book,.forgetting about chapter three and then saying you read the whole book.

And as someone observed about your "proficiency" https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/cringe-lunch-or-personal-social-experiment.281356/page-6

"6 pages dedicated to a girl a guy said hi to..." To say that OP here was far more adept than you've ever been is an insult to him, and an undue compliment to you

 

[corrector]

And as someone observed about your "proficiency" https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/cringe-lunch-or-personal-social-experiment.281356/page-6

"6 pages dedicated to a girl a guy said hi to..." To say that OP here was far more adept than you've ever been is an insult to him, and an undue compliment to you

What are you talking about now? The length and views of the other thread? Are you trying to hijack this thread? Are we going to be hijacking every thread I reply to so you can make some cheap shots?

My thread got attention from a number of heavy weights on here, has allot of views, I think over 5k/6k which is quite allot for this board. I assure you it's not based on more interactions with that lady, it's because there must be some deeply controversial aspect about some aspect of that interaction that has mushroomed that thread in terms of replies and views. The fact you had to zero-in on some aspect of an interaction on that thread, that was out of context, shows that even you are triggered by the interaction enough to keep bringing it up here. Meaning its a great thread. People like you will likely give it a cult-thread status and help increase the views further.

You were not helpful in that thread and contributed to getting it locked because everything is a joke to you. It's like you can't help but have to make a cheap shot. You have nothing better to do with your time?

 

[BaronOfHair]

You were not helpful in that thread and contributed to getting it locked because everything is a joke to you

One of mine got locked also https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/gent-z.282185/ , for whatever consolation that might provide. In any event, you're correct: We are getting off-topic

 

[Bingo-Player]

Quite an important thing to compete over, perhaps the most important thing to some people.

Perhaps but any woman under 40 can in theory bear a child

Men are competing for the beauty not the ability to have children

 

[Manure Spherian]

Perhaps but any woman under 40 can in theory bear a child

Men are competing for the beauty not the ability to have children

Enforced monogamy was something that kept intrasexual competition in check. It’s not coming back any time soon. Hence a large chunk of the male population is on edge. Hence the enormous amount of mental energy and analysis spent on the unfair sex here and elsewhere.

I say the man who seeks a possible mother of future children, family formation, should be more socially astute than some guy who just wants to get laid.

Anyway, I’ve concluded from life experience that in today’s social order (or rather disorder) a guy better be on track starting at 14.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

90% of the hot women I see -- of all ages -- are with very average or below-average looking men.

Case in point:

We often consult young adults on career goals in my business. I talked to a young lady (maybe 28) a couple days ago. Very attractive girl. I mean hot af. Very sweet too. Got her Master's in psychology and is currently a counselor in NYC. Wants to move to be with her boyfriend. So we're talking and towards the end of the call she says her boyfriend is a former client of ours and he recommended she reach out to us. I asked who her boyfriend is. She says "Peter (last name)." I was about floored. Peter is a small, thin, red haired, meek guy who is really into video games and cannabis. No degree, no high paying job. And no, he's not rich nor are his parents. "Peter" even cried a couple times during our meetings when he got frustrated. I mean I was in total shock when I hung up with her, but thought, good for "Peter" and kind of laughed.

There's a line from the movie Hitch that says " Basic principles: no matter what, no matter when, no matter who... any man has a chance to sweep any woman off her feet. He just needs the right broom."

I agree.

~Dash

The ginger is packing.

 

[Tilex]

@oc16
Keep doing what you're doing on sosuave.

When I got into seduction forums and was looking for advice, I saw threads just like this once a week at the Venusian Arts forum.
Can't remember if that was originally Mystery's forum or Lovedrop's forum. It was a long time ago.
All I know is that I needed to read these type of threads weekly to keep a positive mindset.
I really appreciate what you're doing, so keep it up!

 

[MatureDJ]

Dutch proverb: "Een mooie vrouw heb je nooit alleen."
A beautiful woman is never owned by just one man.

Well, at least rented out 15 minutes at a time in de kamer ...

 

[MatureDJ]

The ginger is packing.

It's OVER for LightlyPackedCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

Most attractive people are in a relationship most of the time. If a woman acts coy, she’s probably in a relationship. If she’s not in a relationship and is interested in you, it will be obvious.

I remember when I was still dating American chicks, it seemed that every single chick I would date had just gotten out of a long relationship. They are like a grocery store in the USSR where folks wait in line for something to hit the shelf.

 

[Macadellic]

I know I’m good looking, I catch women eyeing me up in public. I’m the catch, I’m the prize.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I’m the catch, I’m the prize.

Are you the one, the only one, and The God Of Kingdom Come also?

 

[jhonny9546]

" Basic principles: no matter what, no matter when, no matter who... any man has a chance to sweep any woman off her feet. He just needs the right broom."

A woman has no value without a man.
A Man should broke a woman, and re-compose her in a new shape.
The woman will thank this man everyday because He gave her identity.
I'm still struggling to apply this, but it's the everyday life thruth.

Man is form, woman is matter

Man is form, woman is matter. Matter needs to be formed: and thus woman demands that man should clear her confusion of thought, give meaning to her henid ideas. Women are matter, which can assume any shape. A man can make what he likes of a woman: the most a woman can do is to help a man to...

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There is only two options, you either play they game or you become MGTOW, cause have the burden of performing, we are not women.

I don't think so. The analysis is quite correct, but MGTOW is attractive to someone playing the game. I choose to be a stoic, so I might align with the MGTOW mentality, but I still want to be part of a social circle with an open mind, even though my goal is to raise a family.

The core of everything is really about what you want to do as a man and what you want from life. This should be enough to give you the daily drive to focus on your life. You must hold onto your vision because any woman may question it. However, women often take their cues from mainstream media and may challenge you.

You have to show that she cannot enter your sphere; instead, you need to articulate your vision to her and behave in a way that encourages her to change. (I still can't do it well as a DJ or a Mature Man).
Yes, you can accept some truths in what she says, but 80% of the time, you must shape the relationship with a woman.

I'm still learning, but the couples I see who enter long-term relationships are those where the woman is initially "adored" for seduction and then "despised" because she needs to change and submit to the man. If she won't do it, she probably wasn't truly into this man. If a woman respects a man's vision, you won’t have to ask; she’ll make it known.

 

[tanchinos]

Why is that unfortunately? Men are visual creatures, if you want a cute girl you gotta compete with other men by being your best version, you either accept it or become a monk.

Surely however its idiotic that some cvnt from my school who was a prvck got a court summonds as an adult because of a pub fight over a Kate Upton-looking woman. Some boys already have to deal with the psychological abuse from girls as kids, followed by the crassness and shallowness that comes with late-teens and 20s women.

 

[MatureDJ]

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Some of my fellow science nerds here might also have noticed that she has an Apollo X space mission patch on her pants.

 

[MatureDJ]

A woman has no value without a man.
A Man should broke a woman, and re-compose her in a new shape.
The woman will thank this man everyday because He gave her identity.
I'm still struggling to apply this, but it's the everyday life thruth.

Man is form, woman is matter

Man is form, woman is matter. Matter needs to be formed: and thus woman demands that man should clear her confusion of thought, give meaning to her henid ideas. Women are matter, which can assume any shape. A man can make what he likes of a woman: the most a woman can do is to help a man to...

www.sosuave.net

I don't think so. The analysis is quite correct, but MGTOW is attractive to someone playing the game. I choose to be a stoic, so I might align with the MGTOW mentality, but I still want to be part of a social circle with an open mind, even though my goal is to raise a family.

I too like the Stoic philosophy, for its order and its ability to light a rational path. But I think Stoicism doesn't have an answer for the mating game in our current, dystopic female-sexual-choice zeitgeist - but instead leads to the path of the MGTOW monk, who has calculated, much like the great Nikola Tesla, that the mating game is incompatible with rationality, and therefore a big COPE.

 

[MatureDJ]

And it's an important trait in a man to be able to remain unaffected if you want to date 'hot' women.
Your attention and validation is your currency, don't give it out for free.

My currency must be like Zimbabwe's then.

 

[jhonny9546]

I too like the Stoic philosophy, for its order and its ability to light a rational path. But I think Stoicism doesn't have an answer for the mating game in our current, dystopic female-sexual-choice zeitgeist - but instead leads to the path of the MGTOW monk, who has calculated, much like the great Nikola Tesla, that the mating game is incompatible with rationality, and therefore a big COPE.

So, are you saying that in modern society, stoics—who are often considered the greatest men—are losers in what sense? In terms of attracting women?

If that's the case, I always thought that stoics engage in the game in a passive or indirect way, allowing women to come to them because of their inherent value. Instead of playing the game directly, they focus on increasing their value and are seen as a prize.

For example, I have a friend who, for three years, focused solely on himself—no dating, nothing. He transformed his life and became a personal trainer on his own. Now, he has significantly increased his value, thanks in part to social media.
What he portrays is genuinely him: a healthy lifestyle, travel, workouts, friendships, cooking, pets, family, and so on. He train other people, and had the time to build connections. (real ones).
He still doesn't engage in dating, but he enjoys everything else. You can imagine how popular he has become in the city; women with a lifestyle similar to his, which live in the city, wants him. He became a prize being himself.



Additionally, stoic individuals tend to attract a certain type of woman. In this case, you filter out all the "sluts" or "crazy" women that you would attract with PUA or other techniques, and attract those who align with your lifestyle.

Because you attract what you are—just like the saying goes, "We are what we eat," right?
And yes as you've said we can't do nothing to it: Social media really changed the world, giving women too much they don't need.


also https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/self-improvement-is-masturbation.243060/

ps: Please explain what do you exactly mean with "dystopic female-sexual-choice zeitgeist" in the sosuave "theme". It's interesting to know more