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I'd also like to add one more thing I have observed.

You hear and read many women say they don't like guys that are too muscular (steroid look) and they prefer the ripped soccer player look.

Let me ask you. Have you ever seen a huge jacked guy with an ugly, average or just cute woman?

Usually, the women that like these guys are smokeshows and are the hottest chicks.
you know , when dealing with things in general , I try to imagine like how the best person to fill whatever position looks like .

as an example , women are quite shallow , so they want more or less everything if it is possible . Ripped body , good looks , money , smart , treating her good , etc etc

more or less they are more interested in what you are , rather than being interested in who you are . This is also the reason on why women will accept someone that cheats on them or being abusive , as long as he checks other more shallow aspects ( basically she can brag with you ) .

this is more or less consistent on how women see the male heterosexual escorts , and why They go for this kind of service in the first place ( made a post about this )

this is also why being clingy and needy does not work , because you communicate loud and clear that you think that she can do better , and only by mistake you guys hooked up in the first place

sure there are women who are not like this , but most of them are , and is something as guys we have to accept and play accordingly

most of the times women will say this joke , good men are like parking spaces , the good ones are taken and only the handicapped ones are free ( at least , most of the times )

the true test on how desirable you are to women is to see how many women would want to commit to you , based on somehow objective factors in terms of their tier
 
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This mentality is key, no matter how you look. A good looking man can have less success than a below average looking man simply by thinking he doesn't stand a chance. I'd put my own looks at a 7 realistically, but there was a time I thought it to be 2 or 3. My looks haven't changed all that much, I've developed a bit of a style and grown out of looking like a child (I did look younger than I was for longer than normal), but my fundamental physical characteristics haven't changed.

What has changed a lot is my perspective. Whereas before I would commonly take the submissive role and put my worth below almost everyone, I now wouldn't consider any human being to be above me. Nobody is out of my league, if they act as if I'm beneath them then they are really just arrogant pricks and I treat them as such, with the same lack of respect that I'm given. That's where being an assh0le to women comes into play, if she's being arrogant then the ONLY way you'll have a chance to get with her is to knock her down and put her in her place. If you consider her to be out of your league then there's no way you're going to do that.

This is the way that the short, fat, bald dude is succeeding. He's the fvcking BOSS and fully embodies that role. This is so rare and so desired that the eye candy 10/10 dude who acts like she's out of his league can quite literally go fvck himself, she will take the boss any day.
If I'm not mistaken you are from Norway? I noticed that most people there have younger face even when they are grown but I don't think someone should feel insecure about it its a cool trait like something everyone have.
 
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If you automatically think this short bald is in a perfect relationship with an 8 then you are delusional. First, how do you even know if they are dating? Second, how do you know if the relationship is stable or not? People put up fronts to fake how great they’re relationship is in public. Also, dude might have gotten her when he was much better looking and she cannot just simply leave the relationship.
 

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If I'm not mistaken you are from Norway? I noticed that most people there have younger face even when they are grown but I don't think someone should feel insecure about it its a cool trait like something everyone have.
That is correct. Well, I looked a bit younger compared to other Norwegians my age. I was never really insecure about it, I knew it would correct itself and by now I'd say it has. A friend of mine started losing his hair at 20 and looked like he was 35.
There is no minimum legal drinking age in Norway.
Except nobody is legally allowed to give or sell alcohol to anyone under 18. Drinking it is not illegal at any age. So someone will have to break a law for a minor to drink.
 

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Yes there are women who are out of my league and that is totally normal.

The illusion that you can get ANY woman by willpower alone is pure bullsh!t and will only make you waste a lot of time & energy & resources into chasing after women that will not sleep with you eventually.

Instead, learn to accept that you cannot get any girl you want, and go back to investing into yourself.
 

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Yes there are women who are out of my league and that is totally normal.

The illusion that you can get ANY woman by willpower alone is pure bullsh!t and will only make you waste a lot of time & energy & resources into chasing after women that will not sleep with you eventually.

Instead, learn to accept that you cannot get any girl you want, and go back to investing into yourself.
The only females who are "out of my league" are celebrities and famous politicians.

But that doesn't even mean I find them attractive in the first place. For example, I think Lady Gaga is hideous. But due to her celebrity status, it's hard for a non-famous person to compete.

Although there is a sizeable percentage of the (especially young) female population who seem to think they are some hot sh1t celebrity and there's nothing I can do about their delusions of grandeur. (Like Instagram "models" and other such retarded cr@p)
 

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Guilty of this. I always think alot women are out of my league. Put myself down before i have even started half the time. Hopefully one day soon i'll get some self esteem like.
 

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Don't wait for confidence, grow it and work on it.
You have to have success before you can get confidence. Putting confidence before success is putting the cart before the horse.
 

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this guy does a good job debunking the ugly guy hot girl argument
Very interesting analytical video; I watched the whole thing. I liked #6, the Glow Ups/Glow Downs. I will see that with a lot with Good Looking men and they are with a woman who is fat and less attractive. I would say to myself, "man he can do better than that" but she probably didn't look like that when they first met.

However, I do think the author was a bit harsh on judging some of the men. He was calling decent and slightly above average looking guys average and below average looking. By this guys standards and ratings, most of us men would be below average to average.

Also, women are better looking on average than men since they have long hair and wear make up.

Look at this couple: This is some comedy guy named Jack O'Shea who does funny skits with his much younger (20 years difference atleast) girlfriend. I think she is smoking hot and she is dating down (looks wise) slightly, but the guy is in good shape and he is tall. I bet the author of the this video would give Jack a 5 and call him ugly, when obviously this is not the case.

She is with him because he is older (more mature) and can make her laugh. I still have a hard time believing women are as visual as men.

Here is the pic:
 

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Very interesting analytical video; I watched the whole thing. I liked #6, the Glow Ups/Glow Downs. I will see that with a lot with Good Looking men and they are with a woman who is fat and less attractive. I would say to myself, "man he can do better than that" but she probably didn't look like that when they first met.

However, I do think the author was a bit harsh on judging some of the men. He was calling decent and slightly above average looking guys average and below average looking. By this guys standards and ratings, most of us men would be below average to average.

Also, women are better looking on average than men since they have long hair and wear make up.

Look at this couple: This is some comedy guy named Jack O'Shea who does funny skits with his much younger (20 years difference atleast) girlfriend. I think she is smoking hot and she is dating down (looks wise) slightly, but the guy is in good shape and he is tall. I bet the author of the this video would give Jack a 5 and call him ugly, when obviously this is not the case.

She is with him because he is older (more mature) and can make her laugh. I still have a hard time believing women are as visual as men.

Here is the pic:
Honestly he’s not more than a point below her. If he didn’t workout she wouldn’t give him a second look, but I can see him pulling her easily the way he is currently.
 

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Honestly he’s not more than a point below her. If he didn’t workout she wouldn’t give him a second look, but I can see him pulling her easily the way he is currently.
Thank You! The author of the video would of said they were a vastly mismatched couple! lol since he doesn't have the face of Brad Pitt
 

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Thank You! The author of the video would of said they were a vastly mismatched couple! lol since he doesn't have the face of Brad Pitt
No I’ve seen WAY worse. He’s in her looksmatch easily. There’s no vast difference there, plus I bet he’s providing her a place to live and other benefits. If I was him I’d shave my head though but that’s just me.
 

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Yes there are women who are out of my league and that is totally normal.

The illusion that you can get ANY woman by willpower alone is pure bullsh!t and will only make you waste a lot of time & energy & resources into chasing after women that will not sleep with you eventually.

Instead, learn to accept that you cannot get any girl you want, and go back to investing into yourself.
It's not about thinking you can actually get any woman out there. It doesn't take a whole lot of time, energy and resources to figure out that a particular woman isn't interested.

What it is about is to give it a shot instead of counting yourself out before even trying.

You will always instantly lose when you consider a woman out of your league and don't even TRY to take any actions. When you consider a woman out of your league it is YOU who determine that, she won't even get the chance to judge that if you stay away for that reason and who knows, she may disagree and view it differently.

Only one way to find out, take action and see how she responds.
 

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How are Indian men able to breed so much if they are some of the worst looking men on the planet? Clearly looks are not all that important
 

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How are Indian men able to breed so much if they are some of the worst looking men on the planet? Clearly looks are not all that important
You attract people at your level and below. If breeding is the end goal then even a stray male dog can breed, doesn't mean it has any desirable quality beside its stray dog's look. Indian men are able to breed so much simple because they have Indian women to sleep with them. Have you looked at the average Indian women?
 
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You will always instantly lose when you consider a woman out of your league and don't even TRY to take any actions.
It is normal to "instantly lose" when I consider, for example, my country's Miss National to be out of my league and don't even try, because I could use that expected amount of time & energy for OTHER women.

Come on man, let me be brutally frank with you: Your whole theory about "no women at all are out of a man's league" is pure dogsh!t and fvcking nonsense!
 
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