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I just checked, and she unmatched and deleted the conversation.



Because this is just a game to me. I am not getting any kind of results on OLD. I have the couple minutes to spare to write a message.
You arent doing anything productive by playing vain games and giving them attention, either for yourself or on a social scale, and you know that. My advise in addition to that would be to delete OLD.
 

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This is kinda what I was testing... Not necessarily into "liking me", but just to see if I could open a dialog.
It’s good to test things. Even better is that it will ingrain an outcome independence and idgaf vibe because you don’t care if you lose the girl
 

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Your message to her came across as really butthurt. I disagree with all the members here who are blaming HER for something.

"You don't like me, so I'm going to insult you."
That's not what my mindset was... It was more like "Well, this chick is obviously here for validation. I'm going to write a message being overt about it. Letting her know that's what she's here for, even if she doesn't know that. And see if she responds" I didn't have any kind of negative feelings as motivators. I was completely indifferent to it. That's why I wrote that it was a game to me.
 

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polite = No reply

call their ego out = 2 paragraphs/

have a think about how backwards that is
I was thinking when I wrote that. Women respond to emotional spikes whether positive or negative. You have to invoke some kind of emotional response to stand out in their mind. I start with pleasantries which she gets all day on there. There is not an emotional response, so I get nothing for 10 days. I say something that invokes a negative spike, and she responds within 5 minutes.
 

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I was thinking when I wrote that. Women respond to emotional spikes whether positive or negative. You have to invoke some kind of emotional response to stand out in their mind. I start with pleasantries which she gets all day on there. There is not an emotional response, so I get nothing for 10 days. I say something that invokes a negative spike, and she responds within 5 minutes.
Yeah there is a key here for sure. I’ve noticed it too but not sure how you get from argument to sex. I dont see the connection
 

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Be honest though, some part of you wanted her to come around and start talking to you....right?
Only in the sense to see if I could turn a negative emotional spike like that into some kind of dialog. I didn't care whether she liked me or not.
 

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Yeah there is a key here for sure. I’ve noticed it too but not sure how you get from argument to sex. I dont see the connection
Don't a lot of people say that post argument sex is the best kind? I knew that with this chick it was not going anywhere. But as you say, you've noticed it too. There must be a way to get a negative emotional response to stand out that doesn't totally shoot yourself in the foot.
 

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Don't a lot of people say that post argument sex is the best kind? I knew that with this chick it was not going anywhere. But as you say, you've noticed it too. There must be a way to get a negative emotional response to stand out that doesn't totally shoot yourself in the foot.
Yeah I think that’s what negs are for. I’ve never been able to get them to work though.

but what you did there showed her you weren’t fooled by her sh!t. Calling a girl out has
Gotten me sex before. Maybe you call her out in a sort of “come on, you’re not fooling me” playful way instead of a butthurt (not saying that’s what you did, just illustrating the extremes) way.

for example, a few years ago a 25 year old 8 said she would have sex with me “any time any where” and when I went to make plans she brought up excuses. So I said “so much for anytime anywhere eh? ;)

she gave me a bj and I fvcked her the following week but it was one time thing. She didn’t stick around
 

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I was thinking when I wrote that. Women respond to emotional spikes whether positive or negative. You have to invoke some kind of emotional response to stand out in their mind. I start with pleasantries which she gets all day on there. There is not an emotional response, so I get nothing for 10 days. I say something that invokes a negative spike, and she responds within 5 minutes.
About a year ago, I called my daughters mom and her moms friend out for terrible behaviour. (bare in mind at the time, if i contacted her politely about our daughter she would take 4 working days to respond, and never answered my calls.)

After calling her out, the two of them literally started rolling round on the floor, having a fit. calling my phone all night, DM'ing me paragraphs.

purely by a man putting these two in their place caused this epileptic fit response, I could tell not one man in the last decade since our split had told these women the word NO

the power trip I got was a total joy, and I recommend any man doing it.
 

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So about 11 days ago I matched with some chick on tinder. I wrote to her "Hey trouble". She didn't reply for 10 days. So I figure I've got nothing to lose... She's not interested anyways.... So I wrote to her:
If she doesn't reply in 2-3 days, you unmatch her. No need to say anything to her.
Sometimes girls get busy or on vacation and such, but all of them get notifications and if you were really attractive to her, she'd make an attempt at her earliest free time to get in contact with you. 10 days isn't reasonable and she's just looking for validation in this case.
 

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Update:

After the lack of results with tinder, and pof. I decided to delete my tinder account. I was going to delete my pof profile also. I decided I'll be blunt in my bio and see if I get my profile deleted. I wrote things like "Some of you women are delusional. No high value man is interested in raising another man's kid". After a couple weeks, I didn't get the profile deleted. So I decided to just be as blunt as possible. I ended up changing my profile tagline to, "DTF? HMU!". In the bio I just wrote "What do you need to know? I'm 7" not 7'."

I started being very blunt with my messages to women. It's been almost a half a year for me. I decided I needed to lower my standards. I opened my mind up to fatties. Here's a conversation with one.

me - You've been selected to apply for a position as my fwb.. Do you:
Like casual sex?
Dislike drama?
Dislike needy people?
Like bald guys?
If yes to any of these, reply to this message. If you don't like bald guys, I can always wear a wig of golden curls.

her- Your offer is straightforward and tempting. I can answer yes to all of the above. I have my own preliminaries.
Are you open minded?
Are you kink friendly?
Do you smoke weed/ 420 friendly?
Would you describe your sexual personality to be submissive or dominant?

me- Yes
Yes
not at the moment / Yes (if you want to dab while your thighs are squeezing my head with your toes curling and legs twitching. That's fine by me)
Depends on our sexual energy of the day/mood/situation

her-What’s your name?

me- djj. What's yours? Cutie pie baker Mcgee?

her-My name is hb5, it’s a pleasure to make your acquaintance, djj. You understand you’ve made a pass at a plus size female, correct?

me - Hi hb5. it will be more pleasurable for you later. Well fortunately plus size isn't an issue. I seen your pic in the dress. You don't look plus-plus size, so it's fine.

me- I forgot to add... As long as being height minus isn't a problem for you. I am actually 5'6. Height shouldn't be a problem when I have you bent over, or eating you out, or you riding my face. I can't think of a scenario where being taller than you would be necessary. And if there is one, that's what step stools are for ; ) .

her-I don’t see how that would be a problem. So tell me, do you have any kinks?

me - I'll tell you mine, if you tell me yours.

me -Let me guess, your kink involves submission.

her-Dominance submission, impact play. choking, hair pulling, dirty talk degradation and praise. Edging, anal, force. You?

me- Dominance also. Submission is dependent on the type. Choking, hair pulling, anal. It sounds like we're a match! Do me a favor. Can you send me a pic of you holding a pen and a shoe? I've been cat fished before, and want to make sure you're really you.

her-Likewise I faced the same situation. I don’t mind a pen and shoe, if you don’t mind a pic of yourself with cupcake written on a piece of paper?

me-You know what, that's a better idea. Send me a pic of you with the word SCHMLOOZE written on a piece of paper. Then I'll send cupcake. Deal?

her-Schmlooze? Lol ok deal

her-Looks like you can’t upload pictures that arent on your page already do you have a Snapchat?

me -my snapchat

I ended up messaging her on snapchat for about 5 days. Some light conversation, and only one sentence for a couple of those days. I didn't want to look too invested with communication. But also I didn't want her to get add with lack of communication. I went over to her place yesterday.
I took Viagra because of ed problems with the last two females I was with. Viagra is supposed to make men fully engorged. This was not the case for me. It did however allow me to keep getting erect again if I lost it. Which is what happened throughout the night. I ended up losing sensitivity also.
I came once on her ass, then was not able to orgasm again the rest of the night. I ended up fvcking her 6 times throughout the night. I was at her place for 12 hours. I messaged her today "I had a fun time with you last night/this morning". I will leave it at this until next mon/tues. Then I'll hit her back up, if I don't hear anything in the mean time.
 

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Nice first step! See? Direct online is superior
It may be. I have to work on my profile pics to test it out some more. I sent that same message to about 40 other women, and only got one other response of a chick being offended by it. Something along the lines of "Apply for... As if it's a prize to sleep with you! What a joke. If this is your icebreaker, I assume everything else about you is trash... Including your djck game."

I responded to the chick. "I can assure you, you would be please with my djck game. Is your pvssy game on point though? That's the question. Most women think they have the golden pvssy from heaven, but end up being lame in bed." She ended up responding with "I think it's best if you leave me alone."
 

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It may be. I have to work on my profile pics to test it out some more. I sent that same message to about 40 other women, and only got one other response of a chick being offended by it. Something along the lines of "Apply for... As if it's a prize to sleep with you! What a joke. If this is your icebreaker, I assume everything else about you is trash... Including your djck game."

I responded to the chick. "I can assure you, you would be please with my djck game. Is your pvssy game on point though? That's the question. Most women think they have the golden pvssy from heaven, but end up being lame in bed." She ended up responding with "I think it's best if you leave me alone."
Yeah a few thoughts:

- the application idea is good but it’s too literal. Try to adopt the mindset that you are qualifying them without telling them.

- when she said you wouldn’t be good in bed you failed the test by qualifying to her
 

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- when she said you wouldn’t be good in bed you failed the test by qualifying to her
That was a summary of how that conversation went. You could be right with this. I was going to respond with "Only one way to find out". But based on how she was speaking to me, I think the only reason she responded was to troll me. Which is why I responded with the golden pvssy from heaven bit.
 
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