Class and Crazy

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Just note that from a “crazy” perspective, middle class women are a league above working class.

Don’t get me wrong, there are some freakish women in the WC. Just on average, the ones who go crazy in their 30s and divorce and get a toy boy - usually MC. The ones I’ve dated who have some weird conditions on how the relationship works - MC. The controlling ones - MC, the ones obsessed on social status and “improving you” - mc.

WC chicks have their own issues. More chubbies in the WC, more drugs and more hot tempers. However, they still seem human. These are human ailments.

The MC chicks I dated, a lot were very highly strung.

As an aside, I dated a few upper MC and upper class chicks as their “bit of rough” in my early 20s. These girls were a LOT of fun, but you were only ever temporary. They were never marrying or LTRing a dude lower in social status, but they were great for a fling.

Anyone else noted these patterns or is this a UK thing?
 

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Noticed the exact opposite, the poor family is in absolute shambles. Not that MC women are great especially when younger and party phase. Poorer women are just easier to get and seem more gracious in the short run due to hypergamy.
 

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For MC woman there is always this dream running in her head that she will stumble upon George Clooney-clone (or other High-Class man clone) that will immediately fall in love with her.

She is also much more difficult to pick up in her 'prime time' as she understands advantages of hypergamy better than less educated women thus LTR with one is much more probable to be succesful if she is still quite young (carouself didn't destroy her self-worth) and have strong father in family (he will strongly support any decent guy that will court her at some point of her life knowing that she will hit the wall soon thus limiting the hypergamy effects).

Most of the time you would still need to show off strong value/at least MC upbringing as well to think of LTR with her and better count on that strong father figure around.

So it depends on her family background and age mostly. If she is kind of a princess (spared troubles and spoiled by parents/weak father) she will most possibly fail in family area and possibly end up alone or as single mother ****-carouselling to the point of no return.
 

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WC (more accurately-termed NWC) women who have an SMV above 6 are rare as hen's teeth. They're all subject to the same awful life conditions: drinking, smoking, drug use, poor diet, generally some level of criminal activity, pregnancy, etc.
Taking all that into account, those who do have a decent SMV know, on a subconscious level at least, that they have a shelf life of ten years MAX: the life catches up and takes a HARD toll. If you have your act together, and run decent game you are a golden ticket out and they will suck golf balls through your garden hose and ride you like bucking stallion in the hope of getting out. DO NOT TRY TO SAVE THEM.
Enjoy the fvcking, sucking, and watching the ridiculous schitt show of their lives but bail the moment she starts talking to you like her rescue.
 

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The WCs above HB6 that I've encountered, are usually stuffy, and running on high for a while, then their nasty habits catch up with them.

MC is better if you go to a different area as the social order among the working class and middle class and up is usually set in stone, but being new in the circle is likely better than outside it.

This is what makes it tougher for men to succeed...We've been conditioned over the years to get higher education, this has come to a point of irrelevance now. There are folks with degrees working in burger joints...I still think the best chance a western man has if he wants a wife is to go to the Far East. And then only works if you stay there.
If as a nation the US goes Socialist, and we seem to be heading there on hot rails, we will be a NWO state quickly, not just because it's their plan but because the Dollar collapses, then we will need World currency (Bitcoin?)...because when the dollar goes, most others will follow.

I know I'm on a rant but the point is, we may well be better elsewhere than here @ home.
 

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The WCs above HB6 that I've encountered, are usually stuffy, and running on high for a while, then their nasty habits catch up with them.
My experience is they want to do hypergamy but feel like a fish out of water and revert to their own class of dudes. They also have outward humility masking an enormous ego they've built of for defensive purposes.
 

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I think class is evidently different stateside.

Working class here is the majority. It’s people who don’t drink wine and champagne with dinner, have never ridden a horse, didn’t get a trust fund and often didn’t go to uni. All blue collar workers are workings class and a lot of white collar workers are also working class.

The things referenced above seem to be about what we would call “dregs” or “chavs”.

What I was getting at more was not how easy they are to lay, I’m talking about crazy level.

Most the dudes I know married or with MC women are slaves to their desires and basically “beaten men”. MC women are active busybodies always working on something.

WC women DO encompass the dregs but they also encompass waitresses, low end office workers, bar maids, travel workers. These are women who are just “regular gals”.

I find these girls are not anywhere near as crazy as professional women.
 

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Just note that from a “crazy” perspective, middle class women are a league above working class.

Don’t get me wrong, there are some freakish women in the WC. Just on average, the ones who go crazy in their 30s and divorce and get a toy boy - usually MC. The ones I’ve dated who have some weird conditions on how the relationship works - MC. The controlling ones - MC, the ones obsessed on social status and “improving you” - mc.

WC chicks have their own issues. More chubbies in the WC, more drugs and more hot tempers. However, they still seem human. These are human ailments.

The MC chicks I dated, a lot were very highly strung.

As an aside, I dated a few upper MC and upper class chicks as their “bit of rough” in my early 20s. These girls were a LOT of fun, but you were only ever temporary. They were never marrying or LTRing a dude lower in social status, but they were great for a fling.

Anyone else noted these patterns or is this a UK thing?
Must be a UK thing. In North America, there is a lot of upward mobility and opportunity for advancement (including for immigrants) and no clear line between "working class" and "middle class". There are three categories of people here: the very rich, regular folks, and marginal elements (i.e. junkies, illegals, welfare queens and their offspring, etc.)
 

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Must be a UK thing. In North America, there is a lot of upward mobility and opportunity for advancement (including for immigrants) and no clear line between "working class" and "middle class". There are three categories of people here: the very rich, regular folks, and marginal elements (i.e. junkies, illegals, welfare queens and their offspring, etc.)
Actually, there are ways to distinguish between working class and middle class here, but you probably would only know if you were here for a while. The way someone talks, their dress, their actions, the way they carry themselves and who they socialize with all combine to show what class they are. Maybe it's more complicated here though.
 
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