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Calling is so much better than Texting

mikedee

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I met a super hot girl on Thursday (cold approach), we texted 3-4x and I decided to call her today. She answered the call and we talked for 25mins. I hanged up first (gotta go talk later).

It was super smooth, and I feel we could have talk for hours. I also feel I made a good impression, she was comfortable talking with me on the phone, and saw that I was too (in Russian ++). Now I think I'm not just a random guy she has met on the street, I'm mikedee the guy she might date. We both are in our examination period so it's a bit difficult to meet but she told that we are going to meet after the exams.
The girl is a 9.5.

From now on, I will always call them, not right off the bat but after a few texts. I noticed that Russian girls like to talk on the phone, I will use that to my advantage.
 

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To text or call? Interesting question. Both should have their place in the way you communicate with women.
Calling:
*I never cold call a chick. I will only call after some texting. Its super awkward to just call out of the blue after getting her number. Calling is for setting up a date. And why would you just call someone to ask them out on a date as the first interaction when they have clearly not done anything warranting us being interested in them to the point we want to spend our valuable time with them?
*I generally will call a chick for the first time while I know she is on her phone and available. If she texts me something like "oh im just hanging out at home", I will call. I spend a lot of time driving, so I generally just say "hey what's up....I'm driving so I can't text....." when she answers.
On the flip side, if I know she just texted me and immediately rejects my call, I WILL NOT reach out to her again (both text and call) until I hear back from her. Or never again.....either is fine. If she tries to text me right after I call, I just text back "I'm driving....give me a call later". Make her invest by calling you back.
*I keep a phone call to under 5 minutes. During that 5 minutes I am paying attention to her excitement level of me calling, if she can hold a conversation, how she sounds, etc. On more than dozens of occasions I have not contacted or replied to a chick after a 5 minute phone call if she sounds bored, stupid, manly voice, etc. I just disappear.
During that 5 minutes, I make sure it's light conversation and invite her for a drink. Its a yes, counter offer or I'm gone. "I'll let you know", "we'll see".....they don't hear from me again. Unless they reach back out in a timely manner to let me know they are free.
*I only call once. No more calling until we meet. Period. If she calls me between my initial phone call and the date, I keep it to a 5 minute, light convo. Tell her I gotta run and see her at the date.
*People can hide a boring/lackluster personality on text. I want to see how she talks before I go drop $40 on an appetizer and drinks.

Texting:
*Less is best
*Totally ok to set up a date over text. Get the date (set it up within the next 3 days) and then sit back and see if she reaches out. If she does, light banter ("Hey you...thinking about me again I see?) and then get back off your phone. Less is best.
*No deep/serious conversations over text. Or on a date. Or ever. Keep it light and fun.
*I sporadically use 2 emojis in text. Wink face and thinking face. That's it. No "LOL" and for crying out loud, no kissy face emojis. Less is best.
*Texting is NOT going to work wonders for you if you are needy, overtalkative through text, not witty, not direct. After a few messages, simply say "seems like we have some things in common. Let's grab a drink and see if there is some vibe when we are together"....set up the date and back off.

Both texting and calls have their purpose and both work. I'm better on the phone than I am texting but I can do both.

The main thing is, and I know this blows some guy's minds......I am screening HER to see if I want to meet in person. And I would much rather waste 5 minutes of my life calling a chick than spend an hour talking face to face to a boring @ss chick while paying to fill her belly full of potato skins and $8 drinks, while I wish I was doing something else more productive than talking to a rock for personality. I can get a great gauge on a chick's personality through that 5 min call. And its ok to ghost after the call and not waste your time on a date with her, when you could spend that time meeting another or doing something you like doing.

Abundance is a good thing. Be picky. Use both text and calls to screen and qualify these women to see if they're worth your time.
What about a girl you've been on a date with once? School is on holidays so we can't meet. Do you text or call
 

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Calling is the best, but most girls don't pick up the phone and will see you as needy or too invested because you've called. When it works, it works but most of the time I think it's better not to call.
I will try it again next time.
This is completely wrong. Interest level dictates her phone availability. If she likes you, she will pick up the phone or call you back.
 

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Well no right or wrong imo.
Calling is way more direct approach and gets you instant answers because you can read her body language/ tone of voice etc.

On the flipsidel text is ofc less persona and still it does indeed require her to engage in the convo and will also be an IOI. Both methods however does in the end require her to invest in the convo.

If she doesn't invest into it whether is a text a direct phone call, well then....
You have the answer.
 

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I'm mikedee the guy she might date.
Why didn't you close the deal on the the day of the call and arranged up a time/day for the meeting, (The date)?
I would have done that straight away on that call.

That's like making a random cold sales call, but not asking the prospecting customer to buy your product which is sort of pointless waste of time. Next time you call the customer (in your case; the girl) they have likely lost interest in your offer or bought it from the competition.
You should "Always be closing" to use an old sales term.

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Why didn't you close the deal on the call and set up a day the meeting (the date)?
I would have done that straight away on that call.

That's like making a random cold sales call, but not asking the prospecting customer to buy your product which is sort of pointless waste of time. Next time you call the customer (in your case; the girl) they have likely lost interest in your offer or bought it from the competition.
You should "Always be closing" to use an old sales term.

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mikedee

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Why didn't you close the deal on the the day of the call and arranged up a time/day for the meeting, (The date)?
I would have done that straight away on that call.

That's like making a random cold sales call, but not asking the prospecting customer to buy your product which is sort of pointless waste of time. Next time you call the customer (in your case; the girl) they have likely lost interest in your offer or bought it from the competition.
You should "Always be closing" to use an old sales term.

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Because it was late and we agreed to meet when the examination period is done, we are both very busy right now. I live in different culture, it doesn't work like in the US. Here you gotta be patient, more conservative mentality.
I didn't say calling was bad, It's good, but the reality is, usually girls prefer to text because they have control over the situation. Some will pickup, some don't, even if they are interested. It depends on the girl, and calling right off the bat after getting the number is a bad strategy I think, got to wait a little bit, after a few texts and some comfort.
 
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