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I see so you do ahve people with guns around you, but don't want people to have guns, ilogical, unless youa re afraid of someone going after you.

thing with guns is, people want or need something to pretect thenselfs, not many do like me who know how to build weapons from metal or wood plus know how to use any weapon, save for some I couldn't bother to learn, or rather can't see it working well. also note a weapon tend to be a equalizer, from blunt to bladed to bow to xbow to firearms, they was made as a easy way to deal with bigger menaces, don't matter how big or how strong you are a weapon will stop you, also note people are afraid of guns, and criminals use any weapon they can put they hands on to get a edge so they can steal from you, some don't even bother to point the gun, they just shot you then take your things,

would be nice to live in a world no one needed a weapon, but as long most weapons are dealt in black markets gun control means little for criminals, and that is the issue, I live in a country people are forbidden to have weapons, thing is criminals are using rifles and more powerfull weapons then no even the police have then, worse tehy can't even use these weapons if they capture from criminals they are locked in a place, with in time get back to said criminals, by corruption or by they stealing said weapons back. worse still criminals knowing they won't have any resistance from normal people they get bold and more agressive
In reality or in the world that I live in, those weapons are a necessary evil for several purpose.

1. is to make the hawks within happy.
2. is to make outsiders wary and respectful
3. is to make hunting easier
4. is of course the projection of power
5. Continuation of influence
6. Continuation of tradition

What I have and control will never be allowed to exist in ur western country.

Whatever you tell me here or even plan to tell me, I've considered it all a long time ago as I've lived through it in various form or shape and not merely thinking abt it hypothetically as you do.

What everyone is thinking here is just a reflection of No. 1 - the same reflection of the hawks of my tribe.

I'm already many steps ahead from you.
 

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In reality or in the world that I live in, those weapons are a necessary evil for several purpose.

1. is to make the hawks within happy.
2. is to make outsiders wary and respectful
3. is to make hunting easier
4. is of course the projection of power
5. Continuation of influence
6. Continuation of tradition

What I have and control will never be allowed to exist in ur western country.

Whatever you tell me here or even plan to tell me, I've considered it all a long time ago as I've lived through it in various form or shape and not merely thinking abt it hypothetically as you do.

What everyone is thinking here is just a reflection of No. 1 - the same reflection of the hawks of my tribe.

I'm already many steps ahead from you.
and who said its hypothetical?
 

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The problem in ur country is lax enforcement.

That's the root cause.

And the rest of what you raised up is merely a guess on ur part and thus a hypothesis...mere background noise from society's hawks.
hmm I see so you don't undertand why you hawks do what they do, interesting
 

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The problem in ur country is lax enforcement.

That's the root cause.

And the rest of what you raised up is merely a guess on ur part and thus a hypothesis...mere background noise from society's hawks.
A valid point. But still not base cause. This social structure can create “criminals” at an alarming rate.

Let’s try this route. You know how men have a victim mentality when it comes to the stupid BPD threads. This victim mindset is completely devoid of responsibility. All the cause is outside of them from external forces. Women or a woman. Never their own cause. This mindset is created. From their mother forward into our present social structure.

In 1958 over 78% of blacks were literate. It was on par with whites. Up until that point, black families were rural and farmers and taught personal responsibility to their children. The problem arose as the democrats lost any credibility or power because blacks were becoming more and more independent.

Then they were tricked ruthlessly. Lyndon Johnson and liberal politics formulated a plan and generated chaos on purpose to swing the black population against personal responsibility (the true nature of Republican politics). Even Johnson said they would have the “negros” voting for them for the next two hundred years. You can actually search and watch this video.

The same group that supports feminism, victimization, lack of personal responsibility, the psychiatric association that gives us made up terminology like BPD, all of these things are owned by our present liberal structure. Making up things like BPD, are ALL avenues directed at making victims.

So let’s look at the family/tribal structure as it exists today. Black families after 1958 were manipulated by social structure to think like victims. Thus the anger is continually directed out to things outside themselves. Never them. Always some other cause. They were completely duped and are being duped at a faster rate even now.

The way they think has created a mess. Soon all men will be pissing sitting down. They may even do away with urinals and make it against the law to pee standing up over a toilet for health reasons.

Asia does not suffer this malady. Everything going on here has been created on purpose. America is the most attacked nation on the plant. But it’s very sly and covert.

Let’s go back to guns. I do not support the elimination of rights of the many for the few duped. The solution is to eradicate the victim mentality created by liberalism and our criminal chaos producing media.
 
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A valid point. But still not base cause. This social structure can create “criminals” at an alarming rate.

Let’s try this route. You know how men have a victim mentality when it comes to the stupid BPD threads. This victim mindset is completely devoid of responsibility. All the cause is outside of them from external forces. Women or a woman. Never their own cause. This mindset is created. From their mother forward into our present social structure.

In 1958 over 78% of blacks were literate. It was on par with whites. Up until that point, black families were rural and farmers and taught personal responsibility to their children. The problem arose as the democrats lost any credibility or power because blacks were becoming more and more independent.

Then they were tricked ruthlessly. Lyndon Johnson and liberal politics formulated a plan and generated chaos on purpose to swing the black population against personal responsibility (the true nature of Republican politics). Even Johnson said they would have the “negros” voting for them for the next two hundred years. You can actually search and watch this video.

The same group that supports feminism, victimization, lack of personal responsibility, the psychiatric association that gives us made up terminology like BPD, all of these things are owned by our present liberal structure. Making up things like BPD, are ALL avenues directed at making victims.

So let’s look at the family/tribal structure as it exists today. Black families after 1958 were manipulated by social structure to think like victims. Thus the anger is continually directed out to things outside themselves. Never them. Always some other cause. They were completely duped and are being duped at a faster rate even now.

The way they think has created a mess. Soon all men will be pissing sitting down. They may even do away with urinals and make it against the law to pee standing up over a toilet for health reasons.

Asia does not suffer this malady. Everything going on here has been created on purpose. America is the most attacked nation on the plant. But it’s very sly and covert.

Let’s go back to guns. I do not support the elimination of rights of the many for the few duped. The solution is to eradicate the victim mentality created by liberalism and our criminal chaos producing media.
Methinks Alvafe is European, hence his contention that even though guns is banned in his country there's still an alarmingly large number of guns there that's available for criminal elements - that's the basis for my reply towards him - lax enforcement due to corruption etc.

As for America, there's only 1 city that has successfully lowered their death rate year after year = New York City and its tied towards the availability to own a gun permit + pretty good enforcement.
 

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Methinks Alvafe is European, hence his contention that even though guns is banned in his country there's still an alarmingly large number of guns there that's available for criminal elements - that's the basis for my reply towards him - lax enforcement due to corruption etc.

As for America, there's only 1 city that has successfully lowered their death rate year after year = New York City and its tied towards the availability to own a gun permit + pretty good enforcement.
yeah no south america here, take note i'm pretty much in the middle of argentina next economical colapse and venezuela.

problem also is goverments are by creation corrupted, its they nature, they will do things who benefit then not the country or the people who belived they would do something, with bring the whole police enforcement, being also corrupted by said powers, remember who pay the salary of said police, even though not all are like that, in some places its even worse, but weapons and permit works at the very least as a deterrent,

with no means of protection people life in fear, and they are willing to open ahnd of tehy freedom of they get a offer of a illussion of protection, with also come for how you can trust someone else will have your wellbeing and protetion in they mind, since they are first worried about thenselfs.

my mind is more used to a warrior/fighter/tactician way of thinking, so I tend to used fear as a tool to put people in they place, and I used said tool several times to disarm certain situations who could go wrong, and in said situations if I showed fear or didn't bluff I had something hidden with me no police, or law enforcement would prevent
 

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yeah no south america here, take note i'm pretty much in the middle of argentina next economical colapse and venezuela.

problem also is goverments are by creation corrupted, its they nature, they will do things who benefit then not the country or the people who belived they would do something, with bring the whole police enforcement, being also corrupted by said powers, remember who pay the salary of said police, even though not all are like that, in some places its even worse, but weapons and permit works at the very least as a deterrent,

with no means of protection people life in fear, and they are willing to open ahnd of tehy freedom of they get a offer of a illussion of protection, with also come for how you can trust someone else will have your wellbeing and protetion in they mind, since they are first worried about thenselfs.

my mind is more used to a warrior/fighter/tactician way of thinking, so I tend to used fear as a tool to put people in they place, and I used said tool several times to disarm certain situations who could go wrong, and in said situations if I showed fear or didn't bluff I had something hidden with me no police, or law enforcement would prevent
Your country reminds me of the Philippines, at least in the southern part of it.

Perhaps the only country in Asia that's fvcked up in terms gun violence.

Endemic corruption plus availability of illegal guns.

For as little as US$80 you could buy a pretty good imitation of a beretta or colt.

Again, with millions of guns floating around = senseless deaths.
 

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Which immigrants specifically do you want to kick out?
We could start with the Muslim grooming gangs that have raped hundreds of our daughters.
The unskilled immigrants, most of which are young, single men from the third world and who are responsible for the stabbing epidemic happening in London.
The Islamic terrorists who are released early from prison becouse they say they'll be good from now on but are still followed by armed plain clothed police becouse the police know they will strike again.
Every immigrant that is unemployed and receiving benefits, an overwhelming proportion of which is Muslim.
Population has exploded in recent years, 80% of which is through immigration while the native population continues to decline. The UK does not have a housing problem. THEY have a housing problem.
That would be a good start.

 

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We could start with the Muslim grooming gangs that have raped hundreds of our daughters.
The unskilled immigrants, most of which are young, single men from the third world and who are responsible for the stabbing epidemic happening in London.
The Islamic terrorists who are released early from prison becouse they say they'll be good from now on but are still followed by armed plain clothed police becouse the police know they will strike again.
Every immigrant that is unemployed and receiving benefits, an overwhelming proportion of which is Muslim.
Population has exploded in recent years, 80% of which is through immigration while the native population continues to decline. The UK does not have a housing problem. THEY have a housing problem.
That would be a good start.

And this is exactly why I asked that question. I knew this would be the answer.

The problem is, the EU itself doesn't facilitate immigration from outside of the EU and never did, nor does the EU control Britain's Home Office. In fact, it's even the EU's directive here (whose first sentence is "In order to combat illegal immigration effectively, ...") which is making asylum seekers travel by foot in the first place since they are effectively restricted from air travel. It won't be any harder for those extra-EU people to come to or stay in the UK than it is now. And they won't be held any longer in jail than they are now, and the same thing for the other issues - the Tory party has already been in control of the country since 2010, and indeed the majority of the UK's post-war history.

If anything the proportion of third world migrants is likely to increase after Brexit:

- To pick up business' new slack that won't be filled by EU migrants anymore
- Other countries will, and already are (like India), insisting that the UK include immigration rights/movement of people into trade deals
 
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And this is exactly why I asked that question. I knew this would be the answer.

The problem is, the EU itself doesn't facilitate immigration from outside of the EU and never did, nor does the EU control Britain's Home Office. In fact, it's even the EU's directive here (whose first sentence is "In order to combat illegal immigration effectively, ...") which is making asylum seekers travel by foot in the first place since they are effectively restricted from air travel. It won't be any harder for those extra-EU people to come to or stay in the UK than it is now. And they won't be held any longer in jail than they are now, and the same thing for the other issues - the Tory party has already been in control of the country since 2010, and indeed the majority of the UK's post-war history.

If anything the proportion of third world migrants is likely to increase after Brexit:

- To pick up business' new slack that won't be filled by EU migrants anymore
- Other countries will, and already are (like India), insisting that the UK include immigration rights/movement of people into trade deals
I agree. I'm under no illusion that Brexit will make the slightest bit of difference regarding immigration. In fact Boris Johnson has said he wants to make it easier for African migrants.
 

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I agree. I'm under no illusion that Brexit will make the slightest bit of difference regarding immigration. In fact Boris Johnson has said he wants to make it easier for African migrants.
Boris Johnson is a habitual liar both by observation and according to his own family and former associates, so you really can't go by anything he says. But yes, witnessing the Brexit spectacle - not that the decision itself is right or wrong, but rather the oscillation between astonishing ignorance and hard-nosed fact resistance about the structures and functions of both the EU and Britain's national government, and that people cheer as their leaders habitual liars, tax evaders and smear campaigners - has contributed to my philosophical pessimism.
 
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I agree. I'm under no illusion that Brexit will make the slightest bit of difference regarding immigration. In fact Boris Johnson has said he wants to make it easier for African migrants.
Without migration, a country that has stagnated will not grow economically, that's why immigrants are welcomed.

It's just too bad that you're getting a shiet load of idiots from places where their culture is subpar or has little tolerance, transferring it to ur society at large and taking advantage of it.

Ur govt should try to entice immigrants from East Asia but I don't think many would want to migrate unless they're from the Philippines.
 

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Economic stagnation is usually the excuse they give. Japan recovered from ww2 and two atom bombs without immigration.
They told us the Windrush generation was becouse we needed an economic boost through immigration but at the same time offering family's to emigrate to Australia for ten quid. It's never been about the economy.
 

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Economic stagnation is usually the excuse they give. Japan recovered from ww2 and two atom bombs without immigration.
They told us the Windrush generation was becouse we needed an economic boost through immigration but at the same time offering family's to emigrate to Australia for ten quid. It's never been about the economy.
It's always abt the economy, otherwise why do people even bother to take in migrants with the backlash it produces?

Even tiny Singapore without much land takes in migrants but they do it cleverly - offering them work permits 1st and then only the cream of the crop is offered citizenship.

They do it to spur competition amongst their own citizens who they feel are pampered, gain more talents by enlarging that pool, have an adequate skill force to do manual work, etc.

Of course the Singaporean bottom feeders will feel the squeeze and if they don't level up despite all the opportunities given by their own society then they'll just fade away into obscurity.

But the smart man there will all be wringing their fingers in delight, thinking how they can profit from it.

Because, you see, humans are actually a resource.
 
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What's happening in Europe and UK has nothing to do with economy. By 2066 the English will be a minority in our own country. How will it be economically benificial to Britain when there's no British people left.
This isn't economics, this is genocide on an unprecedented level.
 

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Economic stagnation is usually the excuse they give. Japan recovered from ww2 and two atom bombs without immigration.
They told us the Windrush generation was becouse we needed an economic boost through immigration but at the same time offering family's to emigrate to Australia for ten quid. It's never been about the economy.
It wasn't the british government that paid for british people to emigrate to Australia, it was the australian government.

What's happening in Europe and UK has nothing to do with economy. By 2066 the English will be a minority in our own country. How will it be economically benificial to Britain when there's no British people left.
This isn't economics, this is genocide on an unprecedented level.
People who can consider themselves and the other people living in Britain to be british regardless of where their parents or even they themselves originate from or how they look will still be around, in fact it is likely that they'll be a larger share of the population than ever by 2066. To them there is no "genocide". What do you feel about that?
 
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What's happening in Europe and UK has nothing to do with economy. By 2066 the English will be a minority in our own country. How will it be economically benificial to Britain when there's no British people left.
This isn't economics, this is genocide on an unprecedented level.
Genocide?

Phulease, continue strengthening those inner demons, I heard its very helpful in the long run.
 

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It wasn't the british government that paid for british people to emigrate to Australia, it was the australian government.



People who can consider themselves and the other people living in Britain to be british regardless of where their parents or even they themselves originate from or how they look will still be around, in fact it is likely that they'll be a larger share of the population than ever by 2066. To them there is no "genocide". What do you feel about that?
I don't care what they consider themselves to be. Being British isn't just a passport. Europeans are a distinct ethnic group and it is that group that is being replaced.
If white people were to immigrate to Japan en masses until the the people we now know as the Japanese cease to exist, but the white immigrants considered themselves "Japanese" , would it still be Japan?
White people only make up something like 5% if the world's population. Why is it OK for this particular ethnic minority not to have a right to exist and flourish.
 
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