Best martial Arts for Street fights

[DonBig]

With street fights I dont mean someone who could pull a knife or a weapon to kill you. I mean with mutual agreement fighting by using your body without any tools.

Muay thai? Kickboxing? Wrestling? MMA? BJJ?

Which would you pick and would more beneficial when it comes to physical confrontations?
Currently my interest goes more toward Muay thai

 

[Gamisch]

Judo/wrestling and boxing.

And I say that as a (retired) semi professional muay thai fighter.

Judo because nothing hits as hard as planet earth. Soon as the fight becomes a grappling match you can finish it, or ateast you wont panic( as much). Its also treacherous , because when we humans fight we are naturally inclined to grab our opponent so we can control him. Thats when you say ,"gotcha bytch!!".

Boxing because you can take a man out with one fast combo . Every "agreed upon fair " fight starts with a fistfight.

Muay thai(like teakwondo) does have the benefit of kicking. Kicking deadly and not on, but through the "object". Teakwondo is perhaps somewhat more about speed and agility where muay thai is more about ferocity and brute force, on a high level executed both will be extremely dangerous. On top of that muay thai does takes place in what i call " the 2nd range close combat zone" ( grappling 1st zone, fistfight 3rd ,kicking 4th).

This 2nd range is just a little closer than the most natural 3rd ,where fists are thrown .in this zone knees and elbows, especially well trained , are a game changer. Besides that, I dear you to "just wrestle "with a experienced muay thai clincher. BUT, kicking on the streets is also dangerous. When adrenalin pumps , your opponent might walk through a kick or two. He might read your tactic of kicking, and catch your kick. And then you are fecked. You might also be in environments where kicking is not advised, like a slippery dancefloor or even a wet street.

Lastly ofcourse there's mma. The issue with mma is its too diverse imo and thus takes long to specialze it. It does however resemble a real fight, which will start standing but for many reasons can be taken to the ground at any moment. Hence my reference to judo /wrestling. You dont wanna be like a fish om dry land once the fight goes to the ground. BUT, it takes tons of time and you are always kinda dependent upon the martial arts knowledge your gym has. E.g a good boxing coach will be a absolute specialist in throwing hands. He might not know how to do a submission but he does know how to 1 2 3 ko a man. A mma gym might have a ex professional mma fighter that know something about everything.

Basically every martial art is dangerous by itself. You don't wanna run into a specialist from neither arts, as they can all take you out really fast.

Still , if a complete noob would ask me this kinda controversial question, I would lecture him on how streetfights are dangerous and next tell him again; boxing and judo/wrestling .

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Boxing/kickboxing or anything similar to that.

Forget BJJ and grappling/ground game as well as those meme martial arts like Krav Maga.

Something simple and effective. They say a man who's practiced one kick 1000x is more deadly than a man who's practicted 1000 kicks once. The latter definitely sounds to me like the sort of meme MA's like Krav Maga which I seriously doubt have any practical utility due to being overly complex and theoretical and has no place in real life where you have split seconds to react. In what fvcking scenario is a simple right jab and left hook not the most effective thing you can do?

The absolute worst thing you can do in a street fight is get on the ground, even if you're dominating the other guy - his friends can just come in and kick your head in, or they could pull out a knife while you're trying to armbar them and stab your ribcage.

Fighting should only be an absolute last resort, and when you do fight, your goal should be to end it as quickly as possible then gtfo. Boxing is ideal because it's the best for teaching you how to punch (and take a punch). Ideally you'll knock them out with 1-2 swings then by gone by the time they hit the ground.

See this video for proof

 

[Gamisch]

Boxing/kickboxing or anything similar to that.

Forget BJJ and grappling/ground game as well as those meme martial arts like Krav Maga.

Something simple and effective. They say a man who's practiced one kick 1000x is more deadly than a man who's practicted 1000 kicks once. The latter definitely sounds to me like the sort of meme MA's like Krav Maga which I seriously doubt have any practical utility due to being overly complex and theoretical and has no place in real life where you have split seconds to react. In what fvcking scenario is a simple right jab and left hook not the most effective thing you can do?

The absolute worst thing you can do in a street fight is get on the ground, even if you're dominating the other guy - his friends can just come in and kick your head in, or they could pull out a knife while you're trying to armbar them and stab your ribcage.

Fighting should only be an absolute last resort, and when you do fight, your goal should be to end it as quickly as possible then gtfo. Boxing is ideal because it's the best for teaching you how to punch (and take a punch). Ideally you'll knock them out with 1-2 swings then by gone by the time they hit the ground.

See this video for proof

You are right about not TAKING the fight to the ground, but BEING TAKEN to the ground is out of your control.

If you light a man up during the stand up, he will 1000% start to panic wrestle. He will notice you are "good" with standup, so he can and will at least test you on the ground. He will lose anyway...At this point (you've embarrassed him already with a few fist combinations) he will give zero fecks about rocks and objects on the ground ect.

You MUST be able to adapt to ground/grapple game if you fight outside. Imo. Even a mike tyson knows his dirty street fight wrestling tricks. They are a necessity when shyte gets real.

By the way; if these kinds of things are on your mind, you must adapt to the current trend. Mma is the trend. I grew up when karate and kickboxing were trending. So you would run into a (kick)boxer , but rarely a grappler. Nowadays " everybody " might know how to grapple.


Ofcourse this is a scary and extreme example, but yet it's what might happen if you run into a grappler; he can choke you to death. That's what BJJ /judo ect teaches you; To choke a man.

Jordan Neely, street artist who died from chokehold on a New York City subway, mourned at funeral in Harlem | CNN

Jordan Neely, the homeless street artist who was the victim of a fatal chokehold on a New York City subway, was remembered at his funeral Friday as a “well known and loved” performer.

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[Gamisch]

Boxing/kickboxing or anything similar to that.

Forget BJJ and grappling/ground game as well as those meme martial arts like Krav Maga.

Something simple and effective. They say a man who's practiced one kick 1000x is more deadly than a man who's practicted 1000 kicks once. The latter definitely sounds to me like the sort of meme MA's like Krav Maga which I seriously doubt have any practical utility due to being overly complex and theoretical and has no place in real life where you have split seconds to react. In what fvcking scenario is a simple right jab and left hook not the most effective thing you can do?

The absolute worst thing you can do in a street fight is get on the ground, even if you're dominating the other guy - his friends can just come in and kick your head in, or they could pull out a knife while you're trying to armbar them and stab your ribcage.

Fighting should only be an absolute last resort, and when you do fight, your goal should be to end it as quickly as possible then gtfo. Boxing is ideal because it's the best for teaching you how to punch (and take a punch). Ideally you'll knock them out with 1-2 swings then by gone by the time they hit the ground.

See this video for proof

My only problem with these kinds of movies is that it shows two extremes. A extreme good boxer vs extremely non trained opponents. Replace the latter with a somewhat skilled fighter and you wont get away with a quick 1 2 combo TWICE..

By the way, never ever underestimate the socalled "TMA's" like krav maga karate ect. Like you say, a jab hook = a jab hook. Those are instinctive punches. Every man and his brother can be a hard puncher (lesson from my coach).a karate black belt or a krav maga "specialist " is just a dude that dedicates his time to being strong and fast. A krav maga kick in the nuts or a palm strike to the throat won't be a joy for no man, doesn't matter if his name is Tyson or Bruce Lee

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Pick up the closest thing you see laying on the ground and crack them with it.

 

[Billtx49]

I mean with mutual agreement fighting by using your body without any tools.

Street fights Never happen by mutual agreement, they are in the moment and usually emotionally hatred driven, but focusing on one technique is usually a recipe for your disaster …
Survival is defined by instantaneously using Everything you ever knew and can use to your benefit in an unexpected situation.

 

[DonBig]

Street fights Never happen by mutual agreement, they are in the moment and usually emotionally hatred driven, but focusing on one technique is usually a recipe for your disaster …
Survival is defined by instantaneously using Everything you ever knew and can use to your benefit in an unexpected situation.

You shouldnt use the word never, thats not smart. Street fights can happen with mutual agreement. I have been in some and watching them fight, its the same as when you fight in a cage only without a cage. Im not talking about coincidental street fights, where someone pulls a knife to kill you and I already said that? Why People so ignorant here

 

[DonBig]

Pick up the closest thing you see laying on the ground and crack them with it.

You mean like the red fat guy in the beginning? Sometimes its better to run away in such situation like this.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You mean like the red fat guy in the beginning? Sometimes its better to run away in such situation like this.

People who go looking for trouble usually find it. I am mostly talking about if you find yourself cornered and don't have a choice. I never try and pick fights or cause static in public, too many psychos that will shoot or stab you these days over nothing

 

[DonBig]

Judo/wrestling and boxing.

And I say that as a (retired) semi professional muay thai fighter.

Judo because nothing hits as hard as planet earth. Soon as the fight becomes a grappling match you can finish it, or ateast you wont panic( as much). Its also treacherous , because when we humans fight we are naturally inclined to grab our opponent so we can control him. Thats when you say ,"gotcha bytch!!".

Boxing because you can take a man out with one fast combo . Every "agreed upon fair " fight starts with a fistfight.

Muay thai(like teakwondo) does have the benefit of kicking. Kicking deadly and not on, but through the "object". Teakwondo is perhaps somewhat more about speed and agility where muay thai is more about ferocity and brute force, on a high level executed both will be extremely dangerous. On top of that muay thai does takes place in what i call " the 2nd range close combat zone" ( grappling 1st zone, fistfight 3rd ,kicking 4th).

This 2nd range is just a little closer than the most natural 3rd ,where fists are thrown .in this zone knees and elbows, especially well trained , are a game changer. Besides that, I dear you to "just wrestle "with a experienced muay thai clincher. BUT, kicking on the streets is also dangerous. When adrenalin pumps , your opponent might walk through a kick or two. He might read your tactic of kicking, and catch your kick. And then you are fecked. You might also be in environments where kicking is not advised, like a slippery dancefloor or even a wet street.

Lastly ofcourse there's mma. The issue with mma is its too diverse imo and thus takes long to specialze it. It does however resemble a real fight, which will start standing but for many reasons can be taken to the ground at any moment. Hence my reference to judo /wrestling. You dont wanna be like a fish om dry land once the fight goes to the ground. BUT, it takes tons of time and you are always kinda dependent upon the martial arts knowledge your gym has. E.g a good boxing coach will be a absolute specialist in throwing hands. He might not know how to do a submission but he does know how to 1 2 3 ko a man. A mma gym might have a ex professional mma fighter that know something about everything.

Basically every martial art is dangerous by itself. You don't wanna run into a specialist from neither arts, as they can all take you out really fast.

Still , if a complete noob would ask me this kinda controversial question, I would lecture him on how streetfights are dangerous and next tell him again; boxing and judo/wrestling .

Fortunately Im gifted in wrestling, but I stopped it because it doesnt really make fun to practice. Fighter IQ plays a good role too here.

I loved the idea about Muay thai, keeping one in distance and disarming them with your deadly kicks, or elbows to intimidate them. Most fights end up in the ground, so understanding how grappling works helps a lot so you are right.

Fighting is also mostly mental, regardless of your body pumping adrenalin, if someone feels he wont win a fight after you gave him a kick, he will back off. Most of the guys nowadays dont know how to fight, so you would be clear in advantage when you know how to fight and when it comes environments where the conditions are too bad like wet places, raining as you said, I think instinctucally the best thing one would do is run away anyways.

Watched some fight video between Muay thai and Judo and suprisingly enough some Judo won, when they were in the ground, one even broke rips of the muay thai. But found it weird how the kicks or punches didnt seem effective from the muay thai on the Judo fighter

 

[corsica]

First compare your weight with your opponent to have an idea how difficult the fight can be.

Second, have a gun so you don't have to fight. If you're an old Asian lady trying to deal with Tyrone trying to steal your purse, knowing all martial arts in the world won't help.

If you don't have a gun and the last resort is fighting, boxing or Muay Thai would be good since you can hit the opponent and leave. Street fights last seconds. Knowing how to punch is something every man should know. Knowing how to do a nice kick using your shin like they do in Muay Thai is a huge plus.

Grappling like BJJ is great for 1on1. Unfortunately it's not as useful in a street fight because you can be attacked while on the floor chocking Tyrone. His friend Jamal will kick your head and if you're out, Tyrone (and Jamal again) will kick your unconscious head constantly for many other seconds, before emptying your pockets and stealing your shoes.

You could train BJJ for 6 months (3X/week) to have a good understanding of basic positions and locks. That way you won't be easily handled by someone who knows BJJ.

 

[jafman]

The last place you want to be is on the ground in a street fight. Whether you are in control or not. Whether you initiate or not.

A flurry of strikes to the vulnerable/ weak areas and then an exit strategy is the best martial art.

If you want to know more look at street combative or urban combativeness.

That said being able to control/ grapple while standing is an important skill even if it only needs to be for seconds….

Likewise ability to strike effectively.

I would always favour anything but your clenched knuckles to strike with.

 

[Gamisch]

People who go looking for trouble usually find it. I am mostly talking about if you find yourself cornered and don't have a choice. I never try and pick fights or cause static in public, too many psychos that will shoot or stab you these days over nothing

I've never had a fight ever since I stepped into the ring. The few times when a Mf tried to challenge I just laughed it off . I am fighting and trying with killers every day so no need to prove myself to a stranger who probably will get smashed, and be my enemy for life.

Before that throwing hands was actually a normal thing, and people wouldn't jump each other with groups ect. The good ol'days..

You shouldnt use the word never, thats not smart. Street fights can happen with mutual agreement. I have been in some and watching them fight, its the same as when you fight in a cage only without a cage. Im not talking about coincidental street fights, where someone pulls a knife to kill you and I already said that? Why People so ignorant here

Fights in mutual agreement happen every day. All it takes is a " wanna fight? HELL yeah", and its ON. Two man can mutually agree to throw hands without the pure hate of wanting to killl each other.

Cant find it but jist saw a video where two men fight in a train. After a minute or two, they talk it out, hug it out, apologize to one another and life goes on.

Sometimes men just wanna challenge themselves .

The last place you want to be is on the ground in a street fight. Whether you are in control or not. Whether you initiate or not.

A flurry of strikes to the vulnerable/ weak areas and then an exit strategy is the best martial art.

If you want to know more look at street combative or urban combativeness.

That said being able to control/ grapple while standing is an important skill even if it only needs to be for seconds….

Likewise ability to strike effectively.

I would always favour anything but your clenched knuckles to strike with.

Again where and how the fight takes place is out of your control ,unless you agreed upon it. A real opponent will try to take you down, that happens instinctively .

Too many men think that "99% of people can't fight". Not true. What I've seen happening too often is that they'll throw hands and after 30 seconds their gastank is empty. And like the famous qoutes said: fatigue makes every man a coward.