Backyard fight sport event. I got scared.

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Hey guys so I did the unsanctioned MMA fight. It was my first real fight ever ( as an adult). I fought a little as a teenager but I dont count that. I lost but I learned so much. I have been doing BJJ with a few competitions for about 4.5 yrs. I have been training boxing/ Muy Thai inconsistently for about 4 yrs. I would consider myself a very average level hobbyist. Even though I lost I did ok considering its my first fight ever basically.

BTW Thank you for the supportive words guys! I used to get bullied in high school because I moved a lot. Martial Arts really helped in my healing process. Thanks for the advice to the guys that gave me good advice.

What I learned.

1.) Shout out to my opponent. He was such a nice guy. He also was skillful and had more experience than I did.

2.) Do not give up a good position for a risky submission. I am not good enough to be going for subs. Position over submission.

3.) I have to improve my guard retention. It was so difficult to retain him in my guard because he was soooo strong.

4.) I need to work on upkicks and improve on getting back to my feet from the bottom.

5.) I dont know why I didnt swing my left leg over fast enough on that arm bar attempt. I usually do...maybe it was nerves. Either way I need to go back to the drawing board for my BJJ ( esp arm bars). My opponent also did well anticipating the arm bar.

6.) My opponent hits so HARD. I was like wtf....first time really getting punched in the face since maybe high school. Dang......
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I've done professional kickboxing so let me chime in.

The forst fight is like every first time. I'd imagine that a first time bungie jump would scare the shyte outta me, to a point where I might even bytch oit last moment.

Imo such a fight isn't any scarier than a sanctioned fight. A fight =a fight. And no,sparring is NOT the same as a real fight. A fight is war.

Dont worry about being intimidated. Just keep going. Lets look at some scenarios;
- you get knocked out. Its painless and quick. I've been knocked out in sparring once. Not nice but hey...its part of the game!

- you get bullied/oppenent is better.
Now you know what you should work on..you can ALWAYS throw the towel. You make it seem like its bloodsport and you might die or something. Nah bro.

-you have a scrap, and you win or lose by a small margin.(most likely the scenario). If I'm correct you'll get matched up with a opp with similar experience.

Getting cold feet is normal. Thats why I personally hated the build up, but once they say; in the blue (pill) corner GAMISCH!!!" Its do or die,no way back amd LETS GO.

You do this to conquer something. Dont.let it conquer you. And if it does, also fine. You trained hard and sometimes that's enough. You won't be the next McGregor anyway...
This post really helped me pull the trigger and decide to do it. Thanks again. I needed to finally conquer my fear.
 

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They're criminal morons if they are running an unsanctioned fight. The rule of law is that you can't waive a tort, so any papers you sign promising not to sue are worthless. When the state sanctions a fight, punching someone is not battery. In an unsanctioned fight it is; you can go to jail, especially if you hurt someone. It doesn't matter if the fight was voluntarily entered into.
I've done some 'play-fighting' (like freestyle random wrestling with men and women without a referee) which were unsanctioned, but they were also more like 'Fight Club' in the sense that there was no audience: everyone there would play-fight at least once. There were no rounds, but just one fight until one person submitted/tapped out.
I often joined with some of the women I taught self-defence, so they could measure up against (pretty average) men and get a realistic idea of possibilities to defend themselves.

All my actual fights were unsanctioned combat.
 

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Hey guys so I did the unsanctioned MMA fight. It was my first real fight ever ( as an adult). I fought a little as a teenager but I dont count that. I lost but I learned so much. I have been doing BJJ with a few competitions for about 4.5 yrs. I have been training boxing/ Muy Thai inconsistently for about 4 yrs. I would consider myself a very average level hobbyist. Even though I lost I did ok considering its my first fight ever basically.
Kudos for going through with it. Glad you learned something from the experience.
Are you going to do more of these unsanctioned MMA fights?
 

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Kudos for going through with it. Glad you learned something from the experience.
Are you going to do more of these unsanctioned MMA fights?
Thank you bro. I have not decided if I will continue. My ego says avenge my loss but my brain says let it go lol.

1.) People are most likely on PED's because there is no testing. This is dangerous.

2.) Those guys are pretty good. I am getting up there in age and the new generation is skillful.

3.) I dont want to break my nose and need surgery.

4.) I dont particularly enjoy fighting. It is quite low vibration and too intense for me. I do enjoy the strategy aspect of it.
 

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The biggest concern I'd have with something like this is getting injuries or brain damage, some of which could be life altering. You also should consider that there is a legitimate chance of getting killed btw, one really good punch or kick to the head could lead to this.

Years and years ago I knew this guy that was into MMA. He wasn't all that naturally athletic and realistically had no chance of ever making a career out of it, which is the case for the vast majority of weekend warriors lol. Anyway, he was around 21 or so when he got his first amateur MMA/cage fight lined up. He invested a lot of his time training for it, mind you he wasn't getting paid to do this and still had to support himself. From what he told me, it wasn't something like you show up a few times per week for an hour, like you would with any other fitness hobby lol, it was practically a part time job.

Anyway, he has his first MMA fight and he ended up breaking his arm.

Let's think about several other things that could have happened here.

- He could have received a really solid kick or punch to the head, got knocked out and maybe had a concussion or even some brain damage from it.

- He could have been grappling with someone proficient in BJJ and been put into some crazy positions. Maybe he had his knees or elbows hyperextended and now has permanent damage to those joints.

- Maybe he tries throwing a kick and the opponent blocks it, resulting in him breaking his leg like Anderson Silva.

- Maybe some guy body slams him and he gets damage to his hips, spine, etc. resulting in permanent back pain.

List goes on. Think about it this way, some of these injuries could affect you for the result of your life, in some cases they could be potentially debilitating. Even some more "minor" injuries, like breaking bones, could limit your ability to work or make money the next several months. Anyone with some common sense can recognize the incredible risk there is here.

Personal note, years ago I went to an MMA gym and had my own trainer that I do some boxing work with, we trained 2x per week and at the time I found it to be very fun. However, I remember trying out the BJJ classes and I very quickly knew that if I stuck with it I'd get injuries and not age well, so within a month I completely cut it out. I'd also add that many of the people that frequented that particular gym were very off putting, it wasn't a crowd that I wanted to associate with.
 

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Good job Pandora.

One data point.

I am 40 now. Boxed competitively in my early 30s for about 4 years. 4 years is a lifetime in that sport!

the good is it helped me develop a skill I have for life. Feel a lot more secure I can handle myself where before that was not true. Built tremendous confidence.

the bad is I have a permanent injury now. About 30 percent hearing loss in one ear. I should have given it up earlier. Had other less permanent injuries, broken ribs, lots of black eyes. Had my bell ring dozens of times. Can’t be good for my brain.

If I could do it over again, I think I still would, but would have stopped earlier.
 

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Hey guys so I did the unsanctioned MMA fight. It was my first real fight ever ( as an adult). I fought a little as a teenager but I dont count that. I lost but I learned so much. I have been doing BJJ with a few competitions for about 4.5 yrs. I have been training boxing/ Muy Thai inconsistently for about 4 yrs. I would consider myself a very average level hobbyist. Even though I lost I did ok considering its my first fight ever basically.

BTW Thank you for the supportive words guys! I used to get bullied in high school because I moved a lot. Martial Arts really helped in my healing process. Thanks for the advice to the guys that gave me good advice.

What I learned.

1.) Shout out to my opponent. He was such a nice guy. He also was skillful and had more experience than I did.

2.) Do not give up a good position for a risky submission. I am not good enough to be going for subs. Position over submission.

3.) I have to improve my guard retention. It was so difficult to retain him in my guard because he was soooo strong.

4.) I need to work on upkicks and improve on getting back to my feet from the bottom.

5.) I dont know why I didnt swing my left leg over fast enough on that arm bar attempt. I usually do...maybe it was nerves. Either way I need to go back to the drawing board for my BJJ ( esp arm bars). My opponent also did well anticipating the arm bar.

6.) My opponent hits so HARD. I was like wtf....first time really getting punched in the face since maybe high school. Dang......
Here is the video.

Welk, lets analyze this .

-That armbar attemp was NO JOKE . An more experienced fighter would've finished him. He knows that

-you did lool clueless in guard position. As you said, more bjj is mandatory.

-it looked like you was gassed after that attempt already.

-you gave up MENTALLY after getting punched. Tko by punches.

-you gotta be a specialist in SOMETHING. Stand up or ground work..this was more like a ..streetfight based soley on power instead of technique. Hence my first paragraph, you did overwhelmed him by your early attempt, BUT you also woke him up and put yourself in a vulnerable position.

Thank you bro. I have not decided if I will continue. My ego says avenge my loss but my brain says let it go lol.

1.) People are most likely on PED's because there is no testing. This is dangerous.

2.) Those guys are pretty good. I am getting up there in age and the new generation is skillful.

3.) I dont want to break my nose and need surgery.

4.) I dont particularly enjoy fighting. It is quite low vibration and too intense for me. I do enjoy the strategy aspect of it.
Well, like most things it pointless to do it just once...the second third and fourth attemp will all be different.

But if this is your pov, then you might be better off doing (HARD) sparring every now and then..just find someone in the gym who wants to go 80 % with you and leave it at intense gym wars.

38 is a ...dangerous age to half azz this shyte..

Perhaps you should try another match, but just try boxing, kickboxing or wrestling! Mma= being either a specialist im 1 thing, or allround. 38 is a difficult age to become allround overnight, unless you're a FREAK of nature...

You just gained some massive respect tho..from the man in the mirror!!!

The biggest concern I'd have with something like this is getting injuries or brain damage, some of which could be life altering. You also should consider that there is a legitimate chance of getting killed btw, one really good punch or kick to the head could lead to this.

Years and years ago I knew this guy that was into MMA. He wasn't all that naturally athletic and realistically had no chance of ever making a career out of it, which is the case for the vast majority of weekend warriors lol. Anyway, he was around 21 or so when he got his first amateur MMA/cage fight lined up. He invested a lot of his time training for it, mind you he wasn't getting paid to do this and still had to support himself. From what he told me, it wasn't something like you show up a few times per week for an hour, like you would with any other fitness hobby lol, it was practically a part time job.

Anyway, he has his first MMA fight and he ended up breaking his arm.

Let's think about several other things that could have happened here.

- He could have received a really solid kick or punch to the head, got knocked out and maybe had a concussion or even some brain damage from it.

- He could have been grappling with someone proficient in BJJ and been put into some crazy positions. Maybe he had his knees or elbows hyperextended and now has permanent damage to those joints.

- Maybe he tries throwing a kick and the opponent blocks it, resulting in him breaking his leg like Anderson Silva.

- Maybe some guy body slams him and he gets damage to his hips, spine, etc. resulting in permanent back pain.

List goes on. Think about it this way, some of these injuries could affect you for the result of your life, in some cases they could be potentially debilitating. Even some more "minor" injuries, like breaking bones, could limit your ability to work or make money the next several months. Anyone with some common sense can recognize the incredible risk there is here.

Personal note, years ago I went to an MMA gym and had my own trainer that I do some boxing work with, we trained 2x per week and at the time I found it to be very fun. However, I remember trying out the BJJ classes and I very quickly knew that if I stuck with it I'd get injuries and not age well, so within a month I completely cut it out. I'd also add that many of the people that frequented that particular gym were very off putting, it wasn't a crowd that I wanted to associate with.
I am sorry but...and you'll probably ignore me as useal but....you are such a gaint ...you're afraid off everything manly..

LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

A REAL stand up man must do stupid and dangerous shyte..it's just what we ALPHA men do . We are stupid at times amd we love to take risks :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:;):whistle::whistle:
 

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Welk, lets analyze this .

-That armbar attemp was NO JOKE . An more experienced fighter would've finished him. He knows that

-you did lool clueless in guard position. As you said, more bjj is mandatory.

-it looked like you was gassed after that attempt already.

-you gave up MENTALLY after getting punched. Tko by punches.

-you gotta be a specialist in SOMETHING. Stand up or ground work..this was more like a ..streetfight based soley on power instead of technique. Hence my first paragraph, you did overwhelmed him by your early attempt, BUT you also woke him up and put yourself in a vulnerable position.


Well, like most things it pointless to do it just once...the second third and fourth attemp will all be different.

But if this is your pov, then you might be better off doing (HARD) sparring every now and then..just find someone in the gym who wants to go 80 % with you and leave it at intense gym wars.

38 is a ...dangerous age to half azz this shyte..

Perhaps you should try another match, but just try boxing, kickboxing or wrestling! Mma= being either a specialist im 1 thing, or allround. 38 is a difficult age to become allround overnight, unless you're a FREAK of nature...

You just gained some massive respect tho..from the man in the mirror!!!


I am sorry but...and you'll probably ignore me as useal but....you are such a gaint ...you're afraid off everything manly..

LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

A REAL stand up man must do stupid and dangerous shyte..it's just what we ALPHA men do . We are stupid at times amd we love to take risks :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:;):whistle::whistle:
Bro your analysis is spot on. I appreciate the contructive feedback.

1.) I did look clueless in the guard and I have been doing BJJ for over 4 yr competitions and everything. Im a blue belt but after a few punches I turned into a white belt. He was so hard to hold in my guard. He felt so damn strong. Plus I had never been really punched in the face since I was a teenager.

2.) BJJ does not teach a realistic use of the guard. I am used to people in class just playing into my guard. Thats not real life.

3.) I have to practice getting up from the guard.

4.) I agree that 38 is dangerous to play around with it.

5.) I was not gassed at all. I was frazzled by the intensity of a real fight. It was nothing like sparring, nothing like practice, nothing like local competitons. It was all a blur. It was being in a dream. I dont like it haha.

How do people do this for a living? Hell naw.

6.) Yes i did give up mentally after he punched my left ear. I got a concussion and a small rupture to my ear drum. I was damn that hurt. My whole system rebooted. Guard does not work for guys way bigger than you.
 
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Bro your analysis is spot on. I appreciate the contructive feedback.

1.) I did look clueless in the guard and I have been doing BJJ for over 4 yr competitions and everything. Im a blue belt but after a few punches I turned into a white belt. He was so hard to hold in my guard. He felt so damn strong. Plus I had never been really punched in the face since I was a teenager.

2.) BJJ does not teach a realistic use of the guard. I am used to people in class just playing into my guard. Thats not real life.

3.) I have to practice getting up from the guard.

4.) I agree that 38 is dangerous to play around with it.

5.) I was not gassed at all. I was frazzled by the intensity of a real fight. It was nothing like sparring, nothing like practice, nothing like local competitons. It was all a blur. It was being in a dream. I dont like it haha.

How do people do this for a living? Hell naw.

6.) Yes i did give up mentally after he punched my left ear. I got a concussion and a small rupture to my ear drum. I was damn that hurt. My whole system rebooted. Guard does not work for guys way bigger than you.
Hindsight is 20/20. It's always easier looking backward. Next time you have mount, you could grapevine his legs and let him flop around for a while to tire him out. I didn't see him even attempt to shrimp or escape mount. And when you train the arm bar, practice mashing your weight down. It comes off as being a d1ck to your training partner, but hopefully he gets it. Pull up the arm, turn him sideways, and move your weight up to his neck. You don't have to even leave mount to get a submission from there if you bend his arm backwards enough. Or just beat the crap out of him from that position.
 

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Bro your analysis is spot on. I appreciate the contructive feedback.

1.) I did look clueless in the guard and I have been doing BJJ for over 4 yr competitions and everything. Im a blue belt but after a few punches I turned into a white belt. He was so hard to hold in my guard. He felt so damn strong. Plus I had never been really punched in the face since I was a teenager.

2.) BJJ does not teach a realistic use of the guard. I am used to people in class just playing into my guard. Thats not real life.

3.) I have to practice getting up from the guard.

4.) I agree that 38 is dangerous to play around with it.

5.) I was not gassed at all. I was frazzled by the intensity of a real fight. It was nothing like sparring, nothing like practice, nothing like local competitons. It was all a blur. It was being in a dream. I dont like it haha.

How do people do this for a living? Hell naw.

6.) Yes i did give up mentally after he punched my left ear. I got a concussion and a small rupture to my ear drum. I was damn that hurt. My whole system rebooted. Guard does not work for guys way bigger than you.
Oke yeah those 4 years and bluebelt explains that smooth judo type of throw and that swift transition into that armbar..you ALMOST had him bro!!!

I Agree that there is a reason why they say combat sport is a young man's game...still its a GREAT experience.

No you wont go pro, BUT you can definitely defend yourself if necessary and even rip apart a man's arm if needed...on top of that you are in a great shape.

Also had to chuckle at the part you saud about getting punched down in belt grades...that's why we see "certified "black belts getting steam rolled in tge UFC all the time..

I'd say that you shoulda woulda coulda used the ebi (? Up-push with the side hip?) Much more ..but that is all easy to say watching behind my screen ..my prime days in the ring are also many years behind me , and on top of that my only loss also happened like this:tko by resignation to overwhelming bunches of punches. Immediately broke my eye socket in the process by a fierce uppercut.

Still imo you should be damn proud of yourself!! As this thread shows you; most men are WAY too p00sy to ever think about this.

Now compare this to approaching a woman..
What's more hazardous?....
 

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Hindsight is 20/20. It's always easier looking backward. Next time you have mount, you could grapevine his legs and let him flop around for a while to tire him out. I didn't see him even attempt to shrimp or escape mount. And when you train the arm bar, practice mashing your weight down. It comes off as being a d1ck to your training partner, but hopefully he gets it. Pull up the arm, turn him sideways, and move your weight up to his neck. You don't have to even leave mount to get a submission from there if you bend his arm backwards enough. Or just beat the crap out of him from that position.
Okay great advice. I should have let him tire out. On the armbar technique I will practice that. Thanks man!
 

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Oke yeah those 4 years and bluebelt explains that smooth judo type of throw and that swift transition into that armbar..you ALMOST had him bro!!!

I Agree that there is a reason why they say combat sport is a young man's game...still its a GREAT experience.

No you wont go pro, BUT you can definitely defend yourself if necessary and even rip apart a man's arm if needed...on top of that you are in a great shape.

Also had to chuckle at the part you saud about getting punched down in belt grades...that's why we see "certified "black belts getting steam rolled in tge UFC all the time..

I'd say that you shoulda woulda coulda used the ebi (? Up-push with the side hip?) Much more ..but that is all easy to say watching behind my screen ..my prime days in the ring are also many years behind me , and on top of that my only loss also happened like this:tko by resignation to overwhelming bunches of punches. Immediately broke my eye socket in the process by a fierce uppercut.

Still imo you should be damn proud of yourself!! As this thread shows you; most men are WAY too p00sy to ever think about this.

Now compare this to approaching a woman..
What's more hazardous?....
Haha thanks my friend. Btw women are prob more hazardous. That child support and divorce rape is undefeated in the ring lol.
 
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