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At what age do women start to look bad?

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The difference in maturity between an 18 year old and 40 year old is usually negligable. Most women are infants.
Having dated 18-28 year olds over the past several years, there's definitely a difference. Not as pronounced as many believe, but it's their.
 

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There's a old rsd Ty program video.

Say you pull and marry a stunner age 25. You get the tail end of her twenties. Then what? 30s? 40s? Many girls start falling off. Some slip as young as 23.

Ty just said how rubbish the math is on that. Factor in our grandfather's pulled 18 peak smv. May have met her younger. Hell mine married mad young. No thot ****.

I am of the mindset that men should get a second passport and geo max especially if they want to settle down and have a family. A few of my mates are nomads. Several took off to Asia and south America. One is awkward as ****kk. Can't get a coffee date in London. Abroad he's pulling left and right. 7+ there but closer to 9 in the west.

What is your play? What does end game look like?
Totally brotha. I just recently geo maxed and it worked out great! Why guys are still trying to settle with American woman i will never understand.

Btw I like Rsd material. It's really good.
 

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I just recently geo maxed and it worked out great!
Among Western men that move to Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia for mating purposes, I've observed indirectly (since I've never done this sort of relocation) that there are 2 distinct groups.

1. Incels and nearly incel men
2. Men who have gotten women but haven't really made it work in whichever Western nation they lived in.

Group 1 doesn't do a lot better in the new nation.

Group 2 is better positioned to do better in the new nation for whatever their goals are. A lot of Western nations are mating cesspools. In the United States for instance, women are extremely fussy (called hypergamy, and that doesn't work well when combined with male surpluses) and send a lot of men to the reject pile.

Why guys are still trying to settle with American woman i will never understand.
Most men in the USA end up in some traditional monogamous marriage with a USA born and raised woman. There's a smaller group of men who end up with a non-USA born and raised woman, but in most cases she's fairly acculturated. The second scenario is better than the first but the second scenario is still risky because the relationship is taking place in a Western nation.

Mating is tough in the United States. More and more men are being sent to the reject pile of sexlessness. The ones that do have relationships are almost worse off, because the relationships are often mediocre to lower quality after a few years and eventually end in an unfavorable financial settlement and possibly an unpleasant co-parenting situation.

It's a bad situation.
 

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Among Western men that move to Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia for mating purposes, I've observed indirectly (since I've never done this sort of relocation) that there are 2 distinct groups.

1. Incels and nearly incel men
2. Men who have gotten women but haven't really made it work in whichever Western nation they lived in.

Group 1 doesn't do a lot better in the new nation.

Group 2 is better positioned to do better in the new nation for whatever their goals are. A lot of Western nations are mating cesspools. In the United States for instance, women are extremely fussy (called hypergamy, and that doesn't work well when combined with male surpluses) and send a lot of men to the reject pile.

I was told that JBW has lost much of its value in Latin America. This is primarily due to a flood a white incels moving to the area in the hopes of landing a mate.

Most men in the USA end up in some traditional monogamous marriage with a USA born and raised woman. There's a smaller group of men who end up with a non-USA born and raised woman, but in most cases she's fairly acculturated. The second scenario is better than the first but the second scenario is still risky because the relationship is taking place in a Western nation.

Mating is tough in the United States. More and more men are being sent to the reject pile of sexlessness. The ones that do have relationships are almost worse off, because the relationships are often mediocre to lower quality after a few years and eventually end in an unfavorable financial settlement and possibly an unpleasant co-parenting situation.

It's a bad situation.
 

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No age, it all depends how well they take care of themselves. I've seen some hot women into their mid 50s with nice bodies because they are into yoga, working out, eating right and have good genetics
 

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In my observation, the wall is 25 for Caucasian women, 27-28 for brown Latina women, 30 for non-obese black women, and 33 for Asian women.
This is relatively accurate.

I'd say 27 Caucasian, 30 brown Latina, 33 black and 35 Asian.


The increase is likely due to me being more forgiving.
 

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Among Western men that move to Latin America, Eastern Europe, or Asia for mating purposes, I've observed indirectly (since I've never done this sort of relocation) that there are 2 distinct groups.

1. Incels and nearly incel men
2. Men who have gotten women but haven't really made it work in whichever Western nation they lived in.

Group 1 doesn't do a lot better in the new nation.

Group 2 is better positioned to do better in the new nation for whatever their goals are. A lot of Western nations are mating cesspools. In the United States for instance, women are extremely fussy (called hypergamy, and that doesn't work well when combined with male surpluses) and send a lot of men to the reject pile.



Most men in the USA end up in some traditional monogamous marriage with a USA born and raised woman. There's a smaller group of men who end up with a non-USA born and raised woman, but in most cases she's fairly acculturated. The second scenario is better than the first but the second scenario is still risky because the relationship is taking place in a Western nation.

Mating is tough in the United States. More and more men are being sent to the reject pile of sexlessness. The ones that do have relationships are almost worse off, because the relationships are often mediocre to lower quality after a few years and eventually end in an unfavorable financial settlement and possibly an unpleasant co-parenting situation.

It's a bad situation.
Great response brother. You explained it well.
 

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That's the problem. You're not suppose to relate to women. That's the programming.
ok granted. but I still like women who are mature. and I will clarify what I mean by mature. someone who's gone through difficulty in life. an immigrant who had to learn a whole new language and culture. someone who was poor growing up and had to work to pay for school. I don't like girls whose biggest adversity in life is daddy not buying them a tesla.
 

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ok granted. but I still like women who are mature. and I will clarify what I mean by mature. someone who's gone through difficulty in life. an immigrant who had to learn a whole new language and culture. someone who was poor growing up and had to work to pay for school. I don't like girls whose biggest adversity in life is daddy not buying them a tesla.
I apologize, but a mature woman is a unfeminine woman.
 

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I deal with a lot of Mexican origin Latino/a's every day. I can think of only 3 in the last 20 years over the age of 18 that wasn't obese. I think after 1 or 2 kids she still caught my eye.... It is funny that as much effort as these women put into makeup and clothes that physical fitness and doing sports is not emphasised in the culture. SO for me 95% of Mexican women are unattractive before they even meet my minimum age.

Women from Mediterranean Heritages seem to go through the greatest facial transformation from smooth and attractive to harsh and haggard...Portuguese, and southern Italian women...Beautiful daughters with a mother that would deflate a double dose of Viagra...Post 40 is a freefall in the looks department.



I've always been drawn to tall, slender women. Think beach volleyball players. My first wife was 5'10" i can go to 6' but often beyond that they get to be larger boned and less slender. I'm talking Dutch Netherlands, Fins, Denmark heritage. They also seem to age well into the 50's.

Some Redheads get better with age. Freckles fade and they have youthful fair skin into the 50's....
 

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I apologize, but a mature woman is a unfeminine woman.
I wouldn't agree....While they may not look young and fertile, there is a certain type of mature woman who can be very feminine...I'm getting into the age where my classmates are going grey, and one is an absolute stunner still...

I think each of these women below is still feminine and aging gracefully. (sl;ender, active, good skin care)







 

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@2Rocky: Sorry I just dont see it. The word you're looking for is more like "the veteran art teacher." :lol:
 

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@2Rocky: Sorry I just dont see it. The word you're looking for is more like "the veteran art teacher." :lol:
You (I) can find someone attractive without being attracted to them... Some might say that is objectifying, but I can find something attractive in almost everyone I meet. if I don't, I really dislike that person...
 

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I wouldn't agree....While they may not look young and fertile, there is a certain type of mature woman who can be very feminine...I'm getting into the age where my classmates are going grey, and one is an absolute stunner still...

I think each of these women below is still feminine and aging gracefully. (sl;ender, active, good skin care)







Aging gracefully? Maybe, but I'd never want to have sex with them.
 

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I think it does fall into extremes as you get older because it takes a heck of a lot more effort. I played 3 hours tennis on Thursday night. Saturday I was sore as fuk. Sunday I play again and I was gassed out after an hour. Not many chicks have the self-discipline or are willing vto suffer, especially with the damage that lockdowns did to everyone.

I'm lucky my missus has just hit 50 loves yoga and walking and eventually when Melbourne recovers from bloody covid we will go back to badminton. She loves buying feminine dresses and is always feeding us both salad. And of course being an Asian girl her funbags were minimal to begin with which works out better in the long-term. If I didn't do that in my 50s my ass would soon have its own postcode
 

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Women looks starts going downhill in the late 20s

some women will be hot till middle 30s

But again , declining beauty does not mean that also their options will decline at the same pace or accelerated .

On the contrary , their options remain somehow constant as their beauty decreases , as there will always be guys around her age or older that will still think she looks good when compared to other women the same age or older

there is no real age when a woman hits the wall , the wall is just a mental construct to help incels think that they will have the last laugh at the end
 

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When then start nagging about **** and stop being fun.
YUUUP

women will express themselves when they've hit their peak, especcially if you a good looking guy on the way up.


there is no real age when a woman hits the wall , the wall is just a mental construct to help incels think that they will have the last laugh at the end
their is a wall, for men and women. incels just think once women hit that wall their fare game, without actually improving themselves.
Women and Mens wall is based on fertility.
 
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