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I did alright in nightclubs back in the day, but it's not my thing now - I prefer daytime approaching. If night game is your thing, try midweek student bars or clubs - I always did better in those, even years after I was no longer a student.

Better still, walk around the streets in an area where there are lots of bars and clubs and approach the women on the street who are on a night out. No need to actually go into any bars or clubs. No need to spend any money. Just approach the same women outside. I find I get much better reactions and results like this rather than actually going to a club and trying to approach in there.
 

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I did alright in nightclubs back in the day, but it's not my thing now - I prefer daytime approaching. If night game is your thing, try midweek student bars or clubs - I always did better in those, even years after I was no longer a student.

Better still, walk around the streets in an area where there are lots of bars and clubs and approach the women on the street who are on a night out. No need to actually go into any bars or clubs. No need to spend any money. Just approach the same women outside. I find I get much better reactions and results like this rather than actually going to a club and trying to approach in there.
Good idea, I might need to try this more. Thing is where I live in particular, the girls are usually in crowds of people, some of which are guys who are belligerently drunk. I feel like I'm not aggressive enough to approach these groups sober and drunk I could easily end up saying something that really pisses some boyfriend off and leads to a huge scene which is not something I wanna start. Which is why I prefer daytime approaching--it just seems to be safer and also leads to more skill and growth.
 

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Clearly you haven't seen clubs in Australia, lot of these guys would give Channing Tatum a run for his money plus they have no problem approaching. It's normal for every girl to be approached by dozens of above average guys in a night.

Men are wealthy here and gym culture is huge in Sydney, even Zyzz came from Sydney.
It's why our inkwell brethren call it Chadstralia.
 

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Any parties or social events I been too were the music was moderate to medium volume I have had some great times. Besides a full on concert or Rock show. Then you expect music to be blasted to beyond yelling level.
 

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Weird that club would have free tables, tables are where they make a lot of money. Here in sydney at marquee everyone would try to book a table. My cousin does it and it works really well but his spending a lot of money and it would just be cheaper to get an escort
I think they had some paid tables to in the back, but there was nobody there.
 

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Nightclubs are a business that cashes in on men's desire to get laid and women's desire to get male attention.
 

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I had most of my action coming from clubs in my 20s, I even wrote a guide in this site back then.

The biggest factor that makes or breaks a club experience in my opinion is where the club is (I mean which city), the M:F ratio and the time.

A night club in Wroclaw where you find a 60:40 males to females ratio at 11pm can reward a 6 with decent look and social skills.

A night club in Rome where you find a 90:10 males to females ratio the entire night will lead a hot socially skilled guy to blue balls land.

Also the culture of the place makes a lot of difference, in some area you only find groups of people that are hostile to outsiders where guys are jealous frustrated body guards and the girls wanna be divas while in other areas is perfectly fine for two single girls to go out with the intention to meet new guys.

I've been to clubs every where in Europe and know what I'm talking about.

That was in the first half of the 10s before smartphones and social networks messed up with the dynamics.

Btw a less loud smoking room where you can approach and talk to girls can make a hell of a difference especially when smoking girls deatched themselves to their friends.

Same for sitting places where you can drink and run kino on girls and go for the kiss.

A club that doesnt grant "relax" areas makes it hard.
 

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I had most of my action coming from clubs in my 20s, I even wrote a guide in this site back then.

The biggest factor that makes or breaks a club experience in my opinion is where the club is (I mean which city), the M:F ratio and the time.

A night club in Wroclaw where you find a 60:40 males to females ratio at 11pm can reward a 6 with decent look and social skills.

A night club in Rome where you find a 90:10 males to females ratio the entire night will lead a hot socially skilled guy to blue balls land.

Also the culture of the place makes a lot of difference, in some area you only find groups of people that are hostile to outsiders where guys are jealous frustrated body guards and the girls wanna be divas while in other areas is perfectly fine for two single girls to go out with the intention to meet new guys.

I've been to clubs every where in Europe and know what I'm talking about.

That was in the first half of the 10s before smartphones and social networks messed up with the dynamics.

Btw a less loud smoking room where you can approach and talk to girls can make a hell of a difference especially when smoking girls deatched themselves to their friends.

Same for sitting places where you can drink and run kino on girls and go for the kiss.

A club that doesnt grant "relax" areas makes it hard.
I can remember for a time in the late '90s / early '00s, nightclubs in Eastern Europe tended to have a good female-male ratio, which was FAR better than anything I had seen in the USA. :mad:
 

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I can remember for a time in the late '90s / early '00s, nightclubs in Eastern Europe tended to have a good female-male ratio, which was FAR better than anything I had seen in the USA. :mad:
During the mid 00s, a 5 with normal social skills was scoring hotties in most eastern europe...it needed a 6 in the late 00s/early 10s.

I still remember a night club in Budapest when I was 20 in the mid 00s, never in my life I had it that easy...I kid you not I had girls smiling and blinking at me like a movie despite me being skinny with a kid face.

The M:F ration in the early part of the night was something unbelievable for a western guy hitting western clubs and holy fvck how hot those girls were, competition was on them not us.
 

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During the mid 00s, a 5 with normal social skills was scoring hotties in most eastern europe...it needed a 6 in the late 00s/early 10s.

I still remember a night club in Budapest when I was 20 in the mid 00s, never in my life I had it that easy...I kid you not I had girls smiling and blinking at me like a movie despite me being skinny with a kid face.

The M:F ration in the early part of the night was something unbelievable for a western guy hitting western clubs and holy fvck how hot those girls were, competition was on them not us.
I remember Budapest being notorious for women playing the nightclub scam game (i.e., you go into a club with her, and a bottle of champagne that costs $1K shows up, etc.). I think I stayed away for that very reason.
 

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I remember Budapest being notorious for women playing the nightclub scam game (i.e., you go into a club with her, and a bottle of champagne that costs $1K shows up, etc.). I think I stayed away for that very reason.
That happened mostly in clubs where foreigners were used to go, much less likely in clubs for local.

The real scam actually was girls picking up guys on the streets, pretending to be interested and dragging them to clubs where drinks were very expensive only to get a % of the gains from the owner.

English guys were the main target for that while italians and turkish ones being used to be scammed in their own countries were less likely to fall for that.
 

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LOL.

there is so much nonsense in this thread im laughing out loud but also feel terrible for any inexperienced guy who might be dumb enough to read this thread and listen to most of it.

I have been going to nightclubs 3-5 times per week for 8 years (except covid).

NOTHING MAJOR HAS CHANGED!!!

if anything things are easier now in 2021 then 2013 since every year casual sex/hooking up becomes more and more socially acceptable.

There is less slut shaming every year.

its hilarious to me when i see threads like this.

i wonder if people who post nonsense like this even go clubbing 3-5 times a year.

i repeat; getting laid in nightclubs is actually EASIER in 2021 then 8 years ago in 2013.

Nightclubs are by far the fastest/easiest way to have sex with an 8+ girl in 2021

online dating is the most efficient way if you are happy sleeping with mostly 6s and 7s but if you want to **** at least 2-3 girls 8+ in looks per month then nightclubs is by far your best option.

I personally know several naturals who before covid where ****ing 80-120 girls per year entirely from nightclubs.

so please stfu about this nonsense that nightclubs are overrated.

if you want to learn how to get laid from nightclubs its very simple.

Find a natural in your city who is similar age,race,height and looks as you and start going out with him and just observe what he does.

DO NOT TRY TO LEARN NIGHTCLUB GAME ONLINE!!!!

I repeat, do not try to learn this online on forums or by watching youtube or reading books.

you will waste years and get nowhere.

you will make more progress in 2 weeks going clubbing with a natural who is similar to you then you will in 2 years of reading forums, watching youtube videos on reading books.
 

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Nightclubs are a business that cashes in on men's desire to get laid and women's desire to get male attention.
lol.

wrong.

in any decent size city there are also nightclubs where HOT GIRLS go out to also get laid.

lol.

its crazy the bad info people share online.

yes there are definitely nightclubs where girls go to pretend they are celebrities and get attention.

but those same girls on other nights (when ovulating for example) will gp to a different nightclub in the same city to get laid.

girls like sex just as much as us and they go out to get laid just as much as us.

this nonsense that girls ONLY go out for attention is so insanely stupid and wrong.

people where screaming that nightclubs where dead in 2010 lol.

i was a minor in 2010.

i started clubbing in 2013 and in that time me and my natural friends have combined to **** 1000s of girls entirely from nightclubs.

nightclub game is getting EASIER each year not harder.

so sad that so many clueless people on this forum are spreading nonsense.
 

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You have to really be a fan of the environment for club game to work. I prefer Cold Approach during the day as im a more chill laid back guy. Club game works if you love the music and love to party.
lol.

100% wrong.

i LOVE club game!

and i do NOT give a **** about the music.

wtf?

music?

i go to the club for the hot girls.

i go to the club because that is the easiest way to **** hot girls.

you have to love music?

wtf are you talking about?

i do not even notice the music; im there for the ****ing women.

what planet do you live on?

and yes chill guys can do well in nightclubs to.

im NOT some high energy guy running around the club.

what makes you think that is needed?

do you even go clubbing?

one of the best naturals i know is this black guy who always looks half asleep day or night. this guy ****s 50-80 (white) girls per year from nightclubs being a super chill half asleep guy.
 

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Clubs are probably one of the hardest places to game. They are loud, hectic, and crowded.
100% incorrect.

clubs are by FAR the easiest place to get laid except for online but online has worst quality.

online is (slightly) easier if you want mostly 6s and 7s and look good on photo.

nightclubs beat everything if you want as many 8+ as possible and/or you do not have the looks for online.

and you are lost; the loud,hectic and crowded environment is A GOOD THING; that is precisely why nightclubs are the easiest places to get laid. the more packed,crowded and hectic the nightclub is the easier it is to get laid especially if like me you like to have sex in public places.
 

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Yea i agree nightclubs are hard work ..... I've done Ibiza a lot and the super clubs there are some of the biggest in the world

I don't think I've ever seen anyone pull in one … everyone's usually smashed or on drugs they are nearly always over sold , the competition is absolutely incredible and girls want to stay out until the earliest hours in the hope of bagging a ticket to an after party with a celeb / superstar DJ

You have like a one hour window between 6 & 7am where some girls may be looking for sex , that's if you can endure it that long .... i worked out it was better to just wake up at like 5am go to the clubs and hang around

Bar / club hybrids are far better usually the one's that have well lit seating areas ....and maybe a small dance floor so you have the option to dance ...... girls are usually far more susceptible to pick up in these environments

I tend to hate anywhere that's over crowded or over sold can't stand sweaty people bashing into me

Ibiza's a different ball game to your typical commercial clubs in the UK or the US. The proper dance music clubs/events over there anyway.

Obviously you have the trashy San Antonio strip which is full of people drinking free shots, 18-30 style party tours etc.

Much higher percentage of people in Ibiza for the drugs, vibe, dance music etc, compared to your typical meat market, commercial places back home or other typical Euro party destinations.

You can of course pull in those clubs, but I wouldn;t recommend them if your prime focus is meeting women and not the dance music/vibe. Entry and drinks are ridiculously expensive in those places too, probably to put off gangs of heavy drinkers taking over.
 
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It’s very flattering when women check you out and want to dance with you at nightclubs.

Otherwise, EDM music today sucks. Too contrived. Ticket prices to Tomorrowland is ridiculous, which means it is packed with unfriendly, arrogant pricks rocking $500 yeezy sneakers.
 

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Iit is packed with unfriendly, arrogant pricks rocking $500 yeezy sneakers.
please stop spreading nonsense like this.

this whole myth that nightclubs are filled with bitchy women and angry jerks is hurting the seduction community.

im in the clubs 3-5 times a week since i turned 21.

i have clubbed in big cities like Los Angeles and Vegas.

please stfu when you clearly know nothing about this world.

so many inexperienced/younger guys are terrified of nightclubs because of people like you spreading nonsense like this.

this is why these days most guys just jerk off to porn or sleep with 6s from tinder when they could get much better results in nightclubs.
 
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