Master Don Juan
- Apr 30, 2006
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I found this comment to be a wonderful exposition of the problem with the feminist, hypergamistic attitude, and why men are losing interest in marriage.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/8654/So, here's the thing.
The whole more women than men blahblah thing is right. And women having stupid standards is right, they're bringing it on themselves by only going after the same guys that they apparently all 'deserve'.But here's what you're missing, there are guys that are completely interested in marriage and long term relationships. You touched on the fact that they might not be earning more than you or whatever, which is true. What you DIDN'T touch on however, is that these kind of men refuse to accept a womans whoring past.
I'm 25 now, and I've been after a long term permanent relationship since I was about 18 or 19. A year isn't long term, and that's about the best a lot of girls this age can do. But these girls, with their desire to chase the tiny percentage of guys that they feel they deserve, are lessening their worth to a guy who is interested in them for more than a quick fling.
I will not date a girl who has slept with 10 or more guys, period. This whole 'between 16 and your late 20's you should be single and free to experiment' is nonsense.
Sex is the highest form of expressing intimacy we have as a species, for now anyway. To be having sex outside of a long term and loving relationship is to lessen the worth of that single act. Why would anyone with half a brain work hard and put in effort to get someone in to bed when she's already given it up repeatedly for far less?
And this isn't patriarchy or sexist. Both sexes have a perceived value to the other, the whole income and education amongst other things are what women use to judge a man's value. In a similar context, how many people you've let sleep with you is part of what men use to judge a woman's value.
I would settle down and get married tomorrow if I found a woman who hadn't slept with everyone that came her way just because she felt like it at the time and didn't consider that every decision you make in your life affects the rest of it, forever. And obviously, who wanted a long term monogamous relationship and was trustworthy, which is seemingly a rare thing to find in women these days unfortunately. Women are too promiscuous, not only pre-maritally which is horrific enough, but also in marriage. Even my own mother left my father after having 2 children to then re-marry a mutual friend when I was a kid, for no reason other than she wanted to. I love my mum, we get on great, but that's unforgivable behaviour in my book. Men want wives for long term relationships, and wives are those who haven't ****ed half the town, or who are going to leave you. This is why they refer to the 50s vision of a housewife. It's not that they don't work, it's that in that society they were pressured to be faithful and loving lest society shun them.
Take that pressure away, and women will never naturally be faithful or monogamous of their own volition.
As feminism tries to push things further and further, and this whole thing keeps spiralling, I find myself detesting women as a whole more and more. Not on an individual basis, they're all people, but stereotypes and the how the majority act is obviously going to influence how you view people to some degree.
I'd love to hear your opinion on this, because this is a massive part of the issue that I think everyone completely disregards, or tries to write it off as 'well that's your fault you don't wanna marry a girl who's taken a thousand ****s' as if it's justifiable. And yes, I'm aware there's a double standard for men on this. Should you reply, I'll be happy to try and explain why that is, and whilst it's not justifying it or making it right (because it's not, it still makes them worse people), it's at least got a better reasoning behind it.