Not open to adoption. Thanks.Biologically, she is not going to have a child at 45+. This is Grade A delusion.
This relationship can’t be saved. Are you open to adoption?
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Not open to adoption. Thanks.Biologically, she is not going to have a child at 45+. This is Grade A delusion.
This relationship can’t be saved. Are you open to adoption?
I'm in my late 30s now and I don't want to have kids now. I'm not interested in raising kids in my 50s.I'm in my late 30's now, and I still want to have kids.
Most of my sex partners have been closer to my own age, so I have had sex with 35+ women. Definitely not a good idea to get a 35+ woman pregnant. If I wanted kids now, I would want to have kids with a 21-27 year old, not some mid-30s woman.Whoever is thinking about knocking up a woman that’s 35+
My dad got my mom pregnant when he was 40, it didn't affect our relationshipI'm in my late 30s now and I don't want to have kids now. I'm not interested in raising kids in my 50s.
2 of the current pregnancies in my social circle occurred as a result of fertility treatments, including in-vitro. Fertility treatments are a waste of money in my opinion and end up compounding problems. Even if fertility treatments do result in a baby or babies, that may not keep a relationship together. In fact, even after fertility treatments and babies, there's still a decent chance of a divorce down tI he road. Considering that, I would think it would be better to save the fertility treatment money for a time when it is needed on attorney's fees in a divorce.If you say yes, be ready to spend tens of thousands of dollars on in-vitro; money that will likely be flushed down the drain on miscarriages and even more mental damage to her.
In both the cases I'm discussing, I believe that adoption would have been a better path overall. However, it wouldn't have been the ideal solution. Both of these men are blue pill guys who did the whole marriage/home buying/pet thing too. If these men had been more red or black pill, they would have not put a ring on it.If you say no, she'll probably dump you for someone who will try, or she'll resent you forever. Baby Rabies overrides all logic.
If you're a 40+ man who strongly desires babies, best to do it with a woman 32 or under. The younger, the better. The typical 25 year old woman today isn't making babies a priority, especially if she received a bachelor's degree. At age 25 now, the only women who have kids are women with less education than a bachelor's degree. That could be anything from a high school dropout to a woman with a useful associate level degree.I think under the right conditions you could have a baby with a woman when you (the man) are 52 years old. However, having a baby with a woman who is over 35 years old is not advisable due to the potential genetic pitfalls already mentioned by others.
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Brannaman said his foster parents provided safety and love. His biological father died in 1992.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Both options you describe are very clearly in the picture almost to the letter. I said no to a baby so she is leaving me despite saying I am the best boyfriend she has ever had.I see almost 0% chance this will end well.
If you say no, she'll probably dump you for someone who will try, or she'll resent you forever. Baby Rabies overrides all logic.
If you say yes, be ready to spend tens of thousands of dollars on in-vitro; money that will likely be flushed down the drain on miscarriages and even more mental damage to her.
Great post and I think accurate2 of the current pregnancies in my social circle occurred as a result of fertility treatments, including in-vitro. Fertility treatments are a waste of money in my opinion and end up compounding problems. Even if fertility treatments do result in a baby or babies, that may not keep a relationship together. In fact, even after fertility treatments and babies, there's still a decent chance of a divorce down tI he road. Considering that, I would think it would be better to save the fertility treatment money for a time when it is needed on attorney's fees in a divorce.
These 2 pregnancies in my social circle that involved fertility treatments were on women under 35. These 2 women spent their early to mid 30s engaging in fertility treatments and one of them had miscarriages.
Both women, despite getting pregnant, did sustain mental damage in the fertility journey.
In both the cases I'm discussing, I believe that adoption would have been a better path overall. However, it wouldn't have been the ideal solution. Both of these men are blue pill guys who did the whole marriage/home buying/pet thing too. If these men had been more red or black pill, they would have not put a ring on it.
In both cases, had these two males not married or not agreed to in-vitro or even an adoption, the relationship would have ended. The woman would have either broken up with them (pre-marriage) or filed for divorce (post-marriage). In consideration the cost of a divorce, the cost of a divorce likely would have been less than fertility treatments + costs of child rearing for the next 18+ years.
If you're a 40+ man who strongly desires babies, best to do it with a woman 32 or under. The younger, the better. The typical 25 year old woman today isn't making babies a priority, especially if she received a bachelor's degree. At age 25 now, the only women who have kids are women with less education than a bachelor's degree. That could be anything from a high school dropout to a woman with a useful associate level degree.
Peak fertility for women is ages 18-25. Women are supposed to be forming solid long term relationships and families and having babies from ages 16-25. That's changed a lot in the last 30-50 years. Prior to 1980 in Western countries, it was not unusual for a woman to have her first child before she turned 26. This has changed a lot. Now, if a woman has a bachelor's degree, she's usually not having her first child until after her 30th birthday.
The thread below illustrated an older Millennial woman (born 1983) who has less than a bachelor's degree and had 2 kids prior to turning 26. I italicized and slightly modified my comments (in a way that didn't change meaning) from that thread.
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I think she's probably too old at this point. Medically, it's not advisable over 40.Hi gentlemen
I have just turned 52 and my 45.5 year old Asian girlfriend wants to have a baby. We live together. She had two miscarriages when she was married 8 years ago...and is childless. She was devastated and still wants a kid (marriage ended as he cheated).
I feel if I dont, the relationship might not last. She may a) subconsciously resent me for all time or b) subconsciously seek a man who will, while being with me. I dont think she will consciously do a or b as she is very Christian with clear morals but she is also a human ...so subconsciously she may.
If I have a kid I will be about 71 when the child is 18.
What are your thoughts please?
Advice from the old lady:I think you hit the nail on the head. Both options you describe are very clearly in the picture almost to the letter. I said no to a baby so she is leaving me despite saying I am the best boyfriend she has ever had.
Trust me when I tell you, nobody wants to have a grandpa for their Dad.You know the majority advice you'll get from here...
Your age is fine, hers not so much.
My parents had me in their late 30's and there still as spry as ever and look 20 years younger. That said, I think 52 is fine to have a kid... but you likely won't be in their life long. I think you both are a little too far along in life to consider having children for the sake of that child. Disorders are a concern, Emotional health and well being of your girl is to be considered given age and past history, the longevity of your involvement with the kid might be short lived etc...
If she's forcing you into a corner here and demanding a baby from you I think she needs a reality check. She's already lost two and the third pregnancy has much much higher chance of having issues. For her sake she shouldn't be popping babies. Ultimately, if you can't give her what she wants and that being kids I think a conversation needs to be had. If she is really that adamant for children I'd be concerned about her mental health as she is at high risk for bearing a child and should be well aware of that and accept it.
Talk with her
I know, that's essentially what I said. 52 is 'fine' on a biological level for a man to provide healthy sperm, doesn't mean he should.Trust me when I tell you, nobody wants to have a grandpa for their Dad.