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This document might be interesting for this discussion: http://www.nospank.net/pt2009.htm "People who have been harmed this way tend to see all relationships as negotiations, as deals to be won or lost." I think this attitude has a lot to do with the trouble with both AFCs and unenlightened PUAs.

You make a good point. I should have put either. Women can be violent too. Anyway for the guys who were wondering why I made the survey, I had the idea that people who have had to resort to seduction methods to relate to women may have been emotionally wounded / have had an abusive...

You'll find that women who are not masochists, aren't attracted to sadists. They do exist. Just go and find them. First thing to do is to get out of bars, discos, seduction forums, and any social group that thinks pick up is cool. Then the next step is not to be a sadist. This is the...

^Well I suppose both. Did you get beaten by either one of them?

I was curious about something. Can you just answer the poll, then I will explain what my idea was? Andrew

My mate is from colombia and he always goes on about it. And my experience with argentinians is that they have a large percentage of sexy and cool people (though I'll admit I haven't seen a statistically representative sample). Um, that's all I can think of :p

I figure they're the same as any girl. A bigger ego maybe. And there'd be more internal resistence - your inner AFC would be pedestalling harder than ever - but hell, could be done.

Just because you're thinking it doesn't mean it's true. "I am going to die!" - true. "OMFG ADGMADFHBNDA I'M GONNA DIE NOOOO!!!!" - false, because the emotional charge you've added to it is completely unwarrented.

y'know, I really, really love bread. My parents seem to think of it as a side dish but I like to fill up on it, and it's cheap too.

asking if it's AFC is AFC. Doing it cos you god damn feel like it and ignoring everyone's opinion of it is DJ.

To me this just illustrates the absurdity of "life is about pleasure". To tell the truth, I don't really mind pain. People often inflict pain on themselves for a cause, say, perfectionism. I think there's a deeper level to this, where people are about being people and doing what people do and...

Ok, we have a hunger for human contact. It helps us raise our consciousness. But you can raise your consciousness alone. Like any pleasure, if you can't go without it it owns you. Enjoy it, but don't let identify with it. Enjoy your freedom more.

YEah. "Zero emissions"? That's disingenuous; it still causes pollution.

Ok, so now we just need to practise self control so the world doesn't turn into a baking furnace :rolleyes: A limit on the amount of oil worldwide could actually save our lives. Or maybe we'll run out just in time to wish we had run out earlier :crackup:

:eek: GRAMMER! HER GRAMMER ARE RONG! Would not be decorous to let a fellow writer's skills etiolate:D

Grateful for the fact that it's not in your mouth you mean??? :eek: bud is truly miraculous in its awfulness. :/

PUA's something you keep secret. A DJ has nothing to hide.

Yeah, dark matter is nothing but pointing out the gap in the theory. I mean it doesn't disprove it. But Occam's razor and all that.

Buy him some weed as a gift, but cut it with rabbit shi't.

Not to mention obedience.:down: