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Just to follow up on this story of mine... https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-cringe-story-that-broke-me.266137/ The no-contact really has been helping shift my mentality about the situation. I haven't even signed into the email address where I was in touch with her since, and the...

The more I think about it, I'm not surprised it took me this long to understand these things. I was raised mostly by my aunt and grandmother, mom had too many issues to do the raising but was still present. And my grandmother's sister lived with us too, and had one daughter basically raised as a...

While I wouldn't say I was stuck on the "love" crap specifically, I was still stuck in my programming enough to catch some feelings last time I messed up and fell into a woman's frame even when it started off just hoping to smash. So either way what you say applies, one could just as easily say...

It doesn't seem unreasonable to think there could be many of both types- those who truly think they are doing it for romance and those who conscientiously do it as a cover. Whether it's either or both, it still supports the notion that it's bull**** and will lead to manipulative games so it's...

Inexperienced noob response here, so take it as you will. Just my take based on what I'm learning so far... It seems like there isn't any one perfect answer to become "alpha" in this scenario but any of the possible ways, whether they include leaving her or staying, could work as long as you...

Will do. It's hard breaking down that part of me that wants it to work the simplistic way. In the end, it just feels like it "should" be the right way. Maybe even how it would be had society not become so full of sh1t in so many ways. But I realize even that perspective might reflect the kind of...

Thanks. From what I see it really does require a lot of personal recalibration, and that involves swallowing the difficult pills (not just the main red one, but all the specific lessons it encompasses)

I hear you. I've had those moments with women and other situations in life. I'm learning not to get too comfortable like I have something in the bag until I actually know I do, which requires having the game down enough to accurately make that judgment.

I think this has been the hardest thing for me. Even after years of knowing to some extent how sh1tty this game can be, I never really KNEW or truly ACCEPTED it. It takes more than a bit of reading and being burned a few times to really internalize it. I needed a real hurtful experience in...

Thanks for the feedback. As I said I've done some reading over the years which has helped some, but I haven't done enough or put enough work into any of this overall. So while I have at various points encountered just about everything you've mentioned there, I haven't truly internalized it and...

Still have my same weight set that I bought in 2007 and a pull-up/dip station. Bench broke years ago and I never replaced it as I've found I get enough chest work with varied pushups and dips, and even overhead press and overhead squats seem to affect it. Even without the bench, with everything...

I just went through mine and posted my cringe story about it. I had ****ty experiences years ago that led me to read some things and make SOME improvements which helped me do a bit better in recent years but really, I'm still not very good at it. After what I just went through, I realized I...

Last post: Somewhat positive things I can take away from this... 1. The rest of the handful of times I met up from these adult sites, I DID manage to bed them (most were hot, 2 weren't but looked decent enough) so logically it SHOULDN'T get to me that I failed with her. I should be glad I can...

And finally, a few days later after still no reply, I followed up that email with something along similar lines, but with some differences. This one was basically: "Well, it was worth that last shot. Sorry you've chosen this way but I don't believe it's been your intention to hurt me. I'll...

From here is where I should have been strong and applied the lessons I knew, instead I let the cringeyness take over. I was so stuck wanting her that I let myself keep giving every chance. Instead of being done with it all by the second time she cancelled, I kept accepting excuses and...

We got back to our cars. I got up close to her, told her I thought she was beautiful (I know we shouldn't do this but she seemed to react well, either way it IS my cringe story) and asked to kiss her (again, I know the issue here but it's what came to me in the moment). We did, and it was pretty...

Newb here. Lurked a while, might still mostly lurk but my recent experience stung so badly that I was moved to join and share it. I know plenty can be said about it. I've never been a DJ but I have learned enough to at least not ruin the few chances I had in recent years. I wasn't looking at all...