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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    I assume your disturbed state is mainly directed at me since I was the (only) person in this thread who didn't exercise his "god given duty to lead." My lack of desire to organize a family picnic with military precision is not a failure to "lead" as you seem to imply. There are lots of ways to...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    I don't agree. I am here to get advice. When the advice provided (yours specifically) requires more work than I desire to put in, I don't think you can say I'm not trying to save my marriage because I've chosen not to follow your advice. I am willing to take certain steps to save my marriage...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    No I haven't. I love your idea its just that the timing has been bad. Plus, I'm wondering if its worth all the effort. I'm feeling less and less inclined to save things.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Quick update guys: It's been one week since my "confrontation" with my wife. She has done a 180 with respect to affection and love. But still no sex which is pretty shocking. I can't lie, I expected her to drop to her knees and give me the bj of her life but nope. Nada. Crazy. She must not...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Actually....I did let 6 months go by without saying anything. I was figuring things out. Why it happened. Getting into RP. And it wasn't until 3 months that I got very resentful and I started to detach. For me, its not nearly as much about the sex as it is the emotionless, affectionless...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Sigh...man I'd like to disagree with you but I really don't think I can. You make good points. Yes I certainly share blame with my wife for allowing her to sleep with my daughter instead of the marital bed. At the time I was happy about it. I got to sleep in a big bed without being awoke. But...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    So thanks to everyone for their opinions here. I think to summarize.... 1) My wife clearly broke her wedding vows by withholding sex for 6 months. Whether she is banging Chad Thundercock or not is debatable. 2) I'm a beta loser for letting it happen but everyone is generally happy I finally...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Since I awoke and believe AWALT I obviously have to agree that she'd **** Chad Thundercock and leave me if the opportunity was right. But I am also pretty confident that she doesn't have the opportunity to do so. Regardless, does the fact that she would do it automatically mean I should? I...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Man, I know it sounds pitiful, but getting the extra affection was really nice. Things have been very cold and detached between us so to have her cuddle me and now send me text messages throughout the day about how much she loves me, how she loves me so much it hurts, etc.. makes me feel pretty...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    Great advice. You nailed it. I feel neutered. I am NOT selfish enough.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    My feelers are out and I know I can attract better on the other side. But I feel bad about leaving....probably just more blue pill conditioning.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    So I know this sounds unlikely coming from a friggin incel, but I've always had a decent SMV. I've been with my wife since our early 20's so if she saw me as higher SMV then, I must be 2 or 3x higher than her now. Once I "awoke", I lost 15lbs of fat, gained some muscle (nothing...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    My situation is actually more complicated. We are expats living outside the US. If we got divorced she would likely take our daughter back to the US. So realistically I’d only get to see my daughter once a month for 2 or 3 days.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    ****. All true. Thank you for pointing it out. I guess I’ll tell myself whatever it takes to keep the blue pill dream alive. But why keep a mistress? Why not leave, get divorce raped once and move on and rebuild?
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    She is always fearful of me leaving her. But obviously not enough for her to want sex or feel the need to give me sex. Maybe I am getting punked...
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    I’m embarrassed to say it, but yes I think she wants to save it. I’m probably just channeling my inner blue pill and am in denial. But again, my smv is way higher than hers at this point so its not like she could find another me. Chad Thundercock doesnt want my 40 year old wife.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    That’s great advice. Maybe I’m too excited about 1 night of attention. Its just been a long time. I will give her this opportunity and then cut my loses.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    None for 6 months. Last night, after the confrontation, she cuddled with me on the couch as we watched a movie. First physical contact in ages.
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    Wife doing 180 to save marriage

    I’ve been dating/married to my wife for 20 years. I got red pill awoke about 6 months ago and had a ton of anger and resentment. I used the last six months to get in shape, learn about game and prepare for the SMP. Yesterday, I confronted my wife about our sexless, affectionless relationship and...
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