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Why it’s cheaper to pay a lady of the night, rather than waste your time and money trying to “pick up” women in bars and nightclubs.

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Yes, OP is true for a one off scenario. Although it must be said that nightclubs are a bad way to meet and seduce women.

Also, escort is a single-transaction service. If you seduce a girl, there is already potential for some emotional investment on her end. That can lead to reoccurring sex and other benefits.
 

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Yes, OP is true for a one off scenario. Although it must be said that nightclubs are a bad way to meet and seduce women.

Also, escort is a single-transaction service. If you seduce a girl, there is already potential for some emotional investment on her end. That can lead to reoccurring sex and other benefits.
If the OP was able to seduce a woman in the first place we would not be having this discussion.
 

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@Ugly bastard

I honestly agree with your statement. If your goal was to just have sex, I believe you'd be far better off just paying for it instead of using nightlife as a means to acquire this. You have to literally go OUT of your way to show up to the nightlife venue, pay cover charge, drinks/food, etc. Then you have to actually approach women, which does not necessarily result in success. There is a lot of time, energy and money going into something that has no guarantee you will achieve what it is you desire. Nightlife is not the best means of meeting women and overall has a low success rate for men. You also should consider that you probably would have to lower your standards by quite a bit if you were looking for something like that, which may or may not be something you would be open to.

Age is also a big factor here as well. A guy that is in his early to mid 20s could realistically meet women in this environment, especially if he was in a college town. If you are into your 30s, or even approaching 40 or past this, you are probably wasting your time in my honest opinion. Most women have usually moved past the "going out" phase by the time they reach their late twenties, so they'll mostly be between 21-25. This is something that should be seriously considered in my honest opinion.

However, here is my take on hiring a "professional". Having sex with an escort, or whatever you want to call her, is not at all the same as with a woman that truly wants to have sex with you. It's better than masturbation for sure but not comparable to something more natural, I don't really know how to explain it. There are some instances where the escorts get into this because they are legitimate nymphos, these would be the best ones to find. However, this is not the case for many of them, so keep that in mind. There is an element with many escorts that personally gives me a very uneasy feeling. Many of these women have drug issues and use escort services as a means to fund this issue. You also should consider that there is an underworld element to these women, which can potentially come with a host of many other issues. In addition to this, there is the possibility of getting into legal trouble as well. I personally believe that there is nothing wrong with a man hiring for services like this but there are many other factors that should be seriously considered.
So are you trying to say that sexing something like this that is "into you":

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is better than paying for something like this?


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False. That implies that escort customers cannot get girls. We know that is not true at all.
There are very few true Incels, but the problem is that for a lot of Normie-tier men, what is available is so disgusting that they may as well be monks.
 

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False. That implies that escort customers cannot get girls. We know that is not true at all.
I did not say ALL their customers cant get girls, or even MOST of them. Those, such as the OP, who cant are escortcel incels. Those who can but refuse to date women in a normal way and dont want to risk false rape accusations might be MTGOWs. But they are collectively a likely small subset of the make up of an escort's clients.
 

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It's OVER for MathematicallyGiftedCels.
There is no such thing as a MathematicallyGiftedCel. There are incels. A lot of incels are STEM majors in colleges and later work in STEM occupations. Someone does need to be good in math to be a STEM major. Engineering does involve a lot of mathematics.

S is for Science in STEM. Medical doctors are part of STEM. Some medical doctors are greatly desired by women. I have found most medical doctors to be beta males.
 

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There is no such thing as a MathematicallyGiftedCel. There are incels. A lot of incels are STEM majors in colleges and later work in STEM occupations. Someone does need to be good in math to be a STEM major. Engineering does involve a lot of mathematics.

S is for Science in STEM. Medical doctors are part of STEM. Some medical doctors are greatly desired by women. I have found most medical doctors to be beta males.
Its over for STEMcells.
 

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One of the greatest pleasures in life is the “Chase”. The foundation of the game. It’s what I look forward to when I am finishing my work for the day and evening time is upon us. The build up from the initial contact to getting her number to the first date and finally to complete intimacy.

I don’t care how expensive that process is, I don’t care about the failures. Players keep playing. I’m a player of the game, it’s what we do.

So paying for escorts will never be an option, it takes the fun out of it.
 

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Aaron Clarey had discussed this years ago:

That was posted in September 2013. Aaron Clarey has aged a lot since then. The lighting wasn't that good in the video either.

Aaron's video goes sideways around the 14 minute mark of a 19 minute video when he talks about online dating being an advantage in efficiency and effectiveness over the bars. They weren't in 2013 and aren't in 2023 either.

The early dating websites were created in the 1990s as a response to the bar scenes of the 1970s-1990s. Night game has always been a difficult path but it's gotten more difficult over time.

Most guys who go out to bars go home at the end of the night without any meaningful prospects, semi or fully intoxicated, and pissed off. It's not good.
 

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There is no such thing as a MathematicallyGiftedCel. There are incels. A lot of incels are STEM majors in colleges and later work in STEM occupations. Someone does need to be good in math to be a STEM major. Engineering does involve a lot of mathematics.

S is for Science in STEM. Medical doctors are part of STEM. Some medical doctors are greatly desired by women. I have found most medical doctors to be beta males.
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Yes. Going out 5-6x per week adds up. Alcohol and food isn’t cheap. Bottle service isn’t cheap, etc..but it’s what I enjoy doing so I have to work with that financial goal in mind to afford my lifestyle.
You drink alcohol with a woman too? Doesnt that hurt the liver? Are you sure that is good for your health?
 

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You drink alcohol with a woman too? Doesnt that hurt the liver? Are you sure that is good for your health?
what do you mean if I drink alcohol with a woman? Don’t we all? Lol

Ehh, I would probably have better health if I ate more healthy and didn’t drink regularly. But that wholesome life is boring to me.
 
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