Do you think PUAs and daygamers ruin cities?

[Jesse Pinkman]

Kind of got brought up in my last thread and I have noticed that Miami has become the home of PUA after the pandemic. Almost every PUA is doing a huge bootcamp here every week and lots of dudes are either moving or visiting here for that experience. I hear of the same thing happening in cities like Budapest over in Europe.

I wanted to know, do you think PUAs and spammy daygamers ruin the game for guys if they infest certain cities?

 

[Billtx49]

Large major cities have many ongoing 3-7 day long informational, educational, trade, entertainment, and business conventions attended by out of towners that leave after their attendance purpose and knowledge level have been achieved …
They don’t stay, or think that city will up their game and life quality, and their visit doesn’t ruin the city…

 

[SW15]

It's possible. PUAs and daygamers don't ruin cities unless their game is bad. I would say that bad game is more prevalent than good game.

In the late 2010s, I saw more women wearing earbuds to grocery stores in singles dense neighborhoods in Dallas. I could only think that had to do with some number of men doing bad day game approaches on them. More women wearing earbuds at the grocery store means that the grocery store becomes a more difficult place to do approaches. Earbuds were on their way to ruining grocery stores shortly before indoor masking ruined them.

 

[bat soup]

Kind of got brought up in my last thread and I have noticed that Miami has become the home of PUA after the pandemic. Almost every PUA is doing a huge bootcamp here every week and lots of dudes are either moving or visiting here for that experience. I hear of the same thing happening in cities like Budapest over in Europe.

I wanted to know, do you think PUAs and spammy daygamers ruin the game for guys if they infest certain cities?

I'd imagine they just go to the big nightclubs and places like that where the women are mainly there to get attention anyway. So, if anything it probably attracts more women to these places (albeit the worst type). I doubt it has a significant effect on the city as a whole, seeing as millions of people live there.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

It's possible. PUAs and daygamers don't ruin cities unless their game is bad. I would say that bad game is more prevalent than good game.

In the late 2010s, I saw more women wearing earbuds to grocery stores in singles dense neighborhoods in Dallas. I could only think that had to do with some number of men doing bad day game approaches on them. More women wearing earbuds at the grocery store means that the grocery store becomes a more difficult place to do approaches. Earbuds were on their way to ruining grocery stores shortly before indoor masking ruined them.

I've noticed this too, around the same time. TBH I think a lot of it was a manifestation of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) and these women wanting to tune out the world in general. Leftist women seem to be way more fond of earbuds than centrist or right-wing I've noticed. And even thought Trump is out of office, their anxiety has yet to abate.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I've met a lot of girls that I approached who said they had been cold approached that day, a dozen cold approaches spam approaching women in the city would easily cover a lot of ground

 

[SW15]

I've noticed this too, around the same time. TBH I think a lot of it was a manifestation of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) and these women wanting to tune out the world in general. Leftist women seem to be way more fond of earbuds than centrist or right-wing I've noticed. And even thought Trump is out of office, their anxiety has yet to abate.

I think a lot of us, regardless of political affiliation, miss the world of 2017-2019.

The singles dense areas of Dallas where I noticed more women wearing earbuds to the grocery store in the late 2010s are all Democratic Party strongholds. It was always white women doing it and it was white women who were at least middle class. This wasn't happening in Walmart either. This was happening in mid to higher end grocery stores.

On the general gym floors and on walking paths, almost all women are wearing earbuds now. I think it crosses political affiliation boundaries at this point because the behavior is so rampant now. I agree that it seems more common among leftist women. Leftist women are the majority of single, childless, unmarried women though.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

If you’re observant they will either not be listening to music or whatever, or listening low enough to hear people speaking around them. They then CHOOSE whether or not to react to what they hear depending on their interest level.

Its a perfect foil, they don’t have to respond unless they want to, then if you touch them to get their attention they can make a scene to draw attention to themselves.

I've noticed this too, around the same time. TBH I think a lot of it was a manifestation of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) and these women wanting to tune out the world in general. Leftist women seem to be way more fond of earbuds than centrist or right-wing I've noticed. And even thought Trump is out of office, their anxiety has yet to abate.

 

[SW15]

If you’re observant they will either not be listening to music or whatever, or listening low enough to hear people speaking around them. They then CHOOSE whether or not to react to what they hear depending on their interest level.

Its a perfect foil, they don’t have to respond unless they want to, then if you touch them to get their attention they can make a scene to draw attention to themselves.

It's definitely done to discourage non-bar, generally associated with "daygame" type approaches. I think it works in reducing female approach volume.

If you want to approach on a general gym floor now, you're going to need to approach women wearing earbuds. The only alternative at a gym is to hope your gym offers group classes and do approaches in there. I believe the fitness class option is the better option compared to approaching someone with earbuds, especially someone with earbuds who has given no IOIs.

 

[Aurora Demon]

In my opinion, hell no. Most guys don't cold approach and the community and this pick up movement has basically died. ALl the big legit companies and coaches shut down already.

 

[Aurora Demon]

Also, if you're not using common routines or not weird, then it's not a problem. I approach without routines (when I was active) and it just seemed like a natural conversation that transitioned to something more. "Hi, how are you?" is actually a useable opener. Usually use a slight direct opener "you seem very interesting" since complimenting looks didn't work for me for some reason.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Yeah I’m thinking opening at a gym is always a bad idea, you need to find the context, like parking lot. Not to say if your eyes cross you don’t smile - she’ll remember you as the pleasant guy that let her do her workout and didn’t rush to spot her.

 

[Aurora Demon]

I've opened a LOT at gyms. I open everywhere. Only issue is if she rejects you or gets a weird vibe then you'll feel weird. I've conditioned myself not to care and I'm friends with the staff usually so it wouldn't matter and most of the regulars at gyms I go to are my friend.

I've gotten either 1 or 2 lays from cold approaches at the gym. Statistically very low. I've gotten countless numbers and "yes" to hanging out and to going on a date, but never managed to get the girls to meet up. So you can do it. But I am also very fit and am clearly there to work out and don't **** around so they can see that I don't talk to people or waste time or socialize, which I am thinking matters, but am guessing.

Being very fit does help though. I look like a small time model. I'm about 20% away from looking like a legit fitness model. Strangers come up and ask me for work out advice or how to look like me. It sucks when they ask about my good abs though, because I don't have an answer to that. It's just genetics for me and I've always had it.

Interesting Note: I'm Asian and asians also have 6 packs, while white guys are known for having bigger arms.
White girls like 6 packs if they like the asian guy and he isn't a passive ***** (most asian guys are this).
Asian girls like white guys because of their bigger arms as most asian guys don't have bigger arms.
This is an observation I've confirmed a lot of times.
My 6 pack just to note isn't a weak one due to being skinny, which is what most Asian guy's 6 packs are from, but girls usually can't distinguish it, and some girls like the very skinny look, I personally don't like or want to be super skinny so I'm never going to be intentionally that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

If you’re observant they will either not be listening to music or whatever, or listening low enough to hear people speaking around them. They then CHOOSE whether or not to react to what they hear depending on their interest level.

Its a perfect foil, they don’t have to respond unless they want to, then if you touch them to get their attention they can make a scene to draw attention to themselves.

It's definitely done to discourage non-bar, generally associated with "daygame" type approaches. I think it works in reducing female approach volume.

If you want to approach on a general gym floor now, you're going to need to approach women wearing earbuds. The only alternative at a gym is to hope your gym offers group classes and do approaches in there. I believe the fitness class option is the better option compared to approaching someone with earbuds, especially someone with earbuds who has given no IOIs.

It's almost tempting to bust out some fake sign language on these women.

 

[SW15]

In my opinion, hell no. Most guys don't cold approach and the community and this pick up movement has basically died. ALl the big legit companies and coaches shut down already.

Daygame has always been a bit of a niche activity. Even 20-30 years ago, most men weren't doing the whole random non-bar venue approach thing. Non-bar approaching is fuccking tough. Gotta lift weights, not masturbate, and not watch porn to build the testosterone to do it well. To some extent, you have to be a bullshiit artist to do it. I am all of those things.

Also, if you're not using common routines or not weird, then it's not a problem. I approach without routines (when I was active) and it just seemed like a natural conversation that transitioned to something more. "Hi, how are you?" is actually a useable opener. Usually use a slight direct opener "you seem very interesting" since complimenting looks didn't work for me for some reason.

I am good enough at riffing, making observations, and asking questions to do approaches. I don't do canned routines, though sometimes I will use the standard Roosh opener from "Bang" to start a conversation.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

In my opinion, hell no. Most guys don't cold approach and the community and this pick up movement has basically died. ALl the big legit companies and coaches shut down already.

As a Miami resident, I can confirm that PUA is certainly far from being dead and a lot of newer companies and gurus have spawned up. Some are borderline black pill.