Seeing an escort

[Heathcliff]

This is true. I have had sex with 1000 prostitutes. It hasnt been good for my sense of self worth, and I cant imagine its too good for the ladies' self worth as well. Picking up hookers is time consuming and money consuming as well.

 

[corrector]

Banging women who genuinely desire you should be a baseline requirement for men. Men who pay for sex don't believe this is possible, and rationalize it in a variety of ways that feed their incel minds with bad energy.

I haven't ever met a single guy who pays for sex and is genuinely happy with themselves. They always come across as jaded and bitter, and fiercely defend their lifestyle choices in a way that communicates that they are truly unhappy.

Suppose you dont want her though?

 

[Heathcliff]

Most guys don't know how to turn women on, and don't understand female nature. But the guys who do know these things get laid all the time.

My biggest fear in life is unwanted pregnancy. I can't relate to guys who can't get laid, or have to pay for sex.

I am under the impression that men use this forum because they have not yet learned how to meet women, turn them on or understand their nature. That's why I am here.

 

[bat soup]

The University of Obvious.

Paying for sex used to be considered pathetic when society had proper masculine/feminine polarity. Wh0res were considered the dregs of society.

Now the world wants you to think that paying for sex is fine, just the same as being a trannie is fine. Paying for sex feeds into the exact system that nobody wants - it leads to OnlyFans, Insta-Ho's and inflates the price of pvssy. Paying for sex is a form of simping.

Ah, ok, so all of this is just your uneducated opinion.

You can do what you want. Don't want to pay for sex? Fine. As we all know, night clubs are free, the drinks are free, the taxis are free.. Online... Tinder is free of charge as well. And women don't expect men to pay for dates in 2021 now, do they? You can get married and women won't take your money with them when they leave. So nobody needs to ever pay for sex. Except you already do.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Most guys don't know how to turn women on, and don't understand female nature. But the guys who do know these things get laid all the time.

My biggest fear in life is unwanted pregnancy. I can't relate to guys who can't get laid, or have to pay for sex.

I bet you fvck girls I wouldn't even want to talk to, though.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

The University of Obvious.

Paying for sex used to be considered pathetic when society had proper masculine/feminine polarity. Wh0res were considered the dregs of society.

Now the world wants you to think that paying for sex is fine, just the same as being a trannie is fine. Paying for sex feeds into the exact system that nobody wants - it leads to OnlyFans, Insta-Ho's and inflates the price of pvssy. Paying for sex is a form of simping.

Onlyfans is very different from a prostitute. Onlyfans is like amateur porn. That's giving money and getting nothing except something to jerk off to.

I can't even count how many threesomes I've had with very attractive girls.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Another rationalization that guys who pay for sex use. "Guys who don't pay only bang ugly chicks". This is a cope.

Prove me wrong.

One guy on here already tried to prove me wrong by PMing me pics of his "free" girls and I wasn't at all impressed.

You talk more than you know.

Plus, I think girls are mostly boring and pretentious and I have no desire to interact with them unless I just want 30-60 minutes of fun. I don't even care what their name is

 

[corrector]

@Visionist has a great argument. He posted pics of his conquests. Those girls look hot. People dont care how they think or what they want. They just look hot and cost xyz.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

I've had threesomes that I didn't have to pay for.

You have to attach every experience you've had with a woman with "She only did it because I paid her." - this just isn't good for your soul.

Every experience I've had? You sure about that?

The reason I don't care to do anything "for free" is because it's no different. It's not worth my time to invest any of my real life into them. I just view it as an entertainment budget.

And I bet you spent all kinds of your TIME with those girls.

 

[bat soup]

This is the classic rationalization that men who pay for sex use - "you already pay for sex, bro, with dates and drinks. Hurr hurr."

If you want to really reduce it, everybody "pays" for sex with their time. If you spend time with anything you're spending money on it.

My uneducated opinion has taught me that all women bang on the first date if you seduce her, and catch her at the right time. This is the essence of Game. Directly paying for sex with a hooker is anti-game behavior.

You're paying, whether you like it or not, both with money and time.

Are you saying you have a 100% close rate? If so, I don't believe you. So what you spend on a date you have to multiply by the number of dates it takes to get one bang. Plus the time and money you spent to get a date in the first place.

If you get into a relationship, everyone knows that these can cost almost infinite amounts of money. Just ask Bill Gates.

It's up to you how you want to spend your time and your money. As it is for everyone else. Do what you want but don't delude yourself into thinking that it's not costing anything.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

You're paying, whether you like it or not, both with money and time.

Are you saying you have a 100% close rate? If so, I don't believe you. So what you spend on a date you have to multiply by the number of dates it takes to get one bang. Plus the time and money you spent to get a date in the first place.

If you get into a relationship, everyone knows that these can cost almost infinite amounts of money. Just ask Bill Gates.

It's up to you how you want to spend your time and your money. As it is for everyone else. Do what you want but don't delude yourself into thinking that it's not costing anything.

I expect he will not reveal enough facts to allow us to prove him wrong. That's how it usually goes.

 

[Velasco]

don't delude yourself into thinking that it's not costing anything.

It's less expensive and more fulfilling than having to pay someone to be there with you. Imagine having to pay your friends to hang out with you vs them hitting you up if you wanna chill?

 

[bat soup]

Another rationalization that guys who pay for sex use. "Guys who don't pay only bang ugly chicks". This is a cope.

More amateur psychology.

I don't have nearly a 100% close rate. But unlike guys who promote "paying for sex", I enjoy the seduction process because I have had enough success with it to know that it works. Part of the fun with seduction is that there's no guarantees. It's a game. You win some, you lose some.

Bill Gates is a beta provider who pays for sex. I wouldn't use him as a benchmark for anything. All Gates represents is that you can't buy genuine desire and love.

Bills Gates is an example of someone who thought that they had never paid for sex their whole life, then getting a huge invoice for services rendered. He's not unique - anyone that gets married without a prenup in the USA is putting themselves in the same position.

Of course you don't have a 100% close rate. Nobody does. You win some, you lose some of course. But you pay every time, whether you win or you lose. So multiply your cost per date by 3 or 4 or whatever, then add the cost of acquiring the lead.

You enjoy spending your time and money doing this? Well, good for you. Like I said earlier, what matters is whether you enjoy the experiences you have and whether you feel like you are getting value for the time and money spent.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Yes, but it is question of how much money. Would you rather pay 50$ or be forced to sell your home and give her half of everything you spent your life working for? And spend your time dealing with some entitled greedy woman's constant demands?

**** I wish hookers cost $50 where I live. When I did one years ago, it was $250 for 30 mins.

 

[forcerecon01]

**** I wish hookers cost $50 where I live. When I did one years ago, it was $250 for 30 mins.

I have a ***** house where I live and the going rate is 200 dollars cash for 40 mins consensual sex

 

[corrector]

**** I wish hookers cost $50 where I live. When I did one years ago, it was $250 for 30 mins.

How was that encounter?

 

[corrector]

The OP must be laughing his head off with this desperate horndog thread.

 

[SargeMaximus]

How was that encounter?

Terrible. Never again

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

More amateur psychology.


Bills Gates is an example of someone who thought that they had never paid for sex their whole life, then getting a huge invoice for services rendered. He's not unique - anyone that gets married without a prenup in the USA is putting themselves in the same position.

Of course you don't have a 100% close rate. Nobody does. You win some, you lose some of course. But you pay every time, whether you win or you lose. So multiply your cost per date by 3 or 4 or whatever, then add the cost of acquiring the lead.

You enjoy spending your time and money doing this? Well, good for you. Like I said earlier, what matters is whether you enjoy the experiences you have and whether you feel like you are getting value for the time and money spent.

It doesn't even have to be an extreme example like Bill Gates or Jeff Bezos. Even if a guy never gets divorced, he still has to be monogamous to her. It gets pretty boring just being with the same girl.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Bill Gates got taken to the cleaners because his wife wasn't attracted to him. This is the same old story for most beta providers. They get divorce raped.

Bill Gates never should have married. Any sensible man can see that marriage is a terrible deal. Only a lonely beta desires marriage under the present legal system.

Directly paying a woman for sex is not the same as spending time with her and trying to seduce her. Why is this? Because transactional sex and validational sex are completely different experiences. If you've had sex with a woman who genuinely desires you then you'll know what I'm talking about.

This idea of "do whatever you want, as long as you enjoy it" is the mindset of a drug addict. Having sex with hookers is bad for you on a deep psychological level, even if it's supposedly fun in the moment.

I don't want to spend time with them. I'm too busy. My time is too valuable. Perhaps yours is not?

Just since I was last posting a couple hours ago... I went down to a place and fvcked a girl I'd call a HB7 (and I have high standards for looks). She was probably about 6'0" tall and hair bleached blonde. She was hotter than most of the girls that people here posted on the "hottest girl ever" thread.

It cost me $200. That's more than I would rather spend, but it's the going rate where I am, so I know what I'm getting into.

I don't care to do the things that you say... Which I'm pretty sure you only say because you're young and inexperienced. How old are you? What's your job? What's your annual income (be honest)?

You're not Sigmund Freud. You talk more than you know.