Cold Approach is Useless for 80% of Men

[longtail]

Three interesting articles that piqued my attention. Basically, these articles confirm that not only is cold approach a total waste of time except for the top 20% of men, but it can actually land you in jail or at least banned from major public areas:

https://www.yourtango.com/2016285828/women-find-80-percent-men-unattractive-says-crazy-study

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...artists-tried-to-invade-torontos-eaton-centre

http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com...d-from-campus-for-doing-daygame-vt145519.html

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The same cuck that was pedaling to female victimhood.

Why am i not surprised?

Goat status soy boy. Low test to match.


This is the classic incel black pill cuck prescribing inaction and bbc cuck porn


Grow a pair.


#metoo is a **** test whereby cratered SMV in Hollywood chalks up rape accusations in between sleeping with minors. Insert Asias pic with said minor rigjt hurrr.

Of course no jail time for said rapist.

 

[evan12]

Cold approach is like cold call in sales , when you dont have a network you have to knock the door of businesses to get some business .
What is your suggestion to a guy without social network , should he just stay at home lonely or go out and interact with people .
Striking conversation with people is legal as long as you keep yourself respectful and doesnt chase them.

 

[Spaz]

Cold approach is like cold call in sales , when you dont have a network you have to knock the door of businesses to get some business .
What is your suggestion to a guy without social network , should he just stay at home lonely or go out and interact with people .
Striking conversation with people is legal as long as you keep yourself respectful and doesnt chase them.

One shoes salesman goes to Africa, he goes back and reports that the market is bad - NO one is wearing any shoes in Africa !

Another shoe salesman goes to Africa, he excitedly calls back HQ saying it's going to be BIG business and asks to send stocks of shoes ! No one in Africa has bought any shoes yet !

One is a defeatist while the other creates opportunities.

Frame is everything.

 

[RangerMIke]

I've never had problems with cold approach. You have to meet someone for the first time before anything starts. But again, cold approach is a step in a process, not a means to an end. You approach to gauge her interest... if you get no interest... well it worked... now you know she does not find you attractive... mission accomplished. If you read that she finds you interesting, go for the number... if she doesn't give it to you... again mission accomplished, now you know.

I think men typically go wrong with just approaching women is they never learned to read people. If you know what you are doing, in a minute, you will know if you have a green light, then you ask them out or get their number.. if she says no, then you just back off and forget about her.

The problem with PUAs is many of them are just taking money from dudes at these workshops that have limited success with women and they teach these guys to dance like monkeys begging for validation and sex. It's like giving a blind-folded man a gun, pointing him in the general direction of a target and telling him to hit it. Learning body language is like taking off the blind-fold. The thing is PUA techniques will work, but only with chicks that are giving you the green light.

The OP is right... if the chick does not find you attractive, a man doing this will creep her out, and she will take these efforts as harrassment. If you learn to read body language and facial expressions, you will know if she thinks you are attractive, then you have a green light to go forward.

 

[wifehunter]

Cold approach works best if you already warmed up. Go figure.

 

[devilkingx2]

But there isn't a unanimous agreement on which 80% of men are ugly so just find the women who put you in the 20%, you're ****ed on OLD though

And don't cold approach in places that are pussified. If you're not allowed to talk to girls somewhere, don't go there they apparently don't want men to show up

I do agree that cold approaching rarely gets you anywhere and you're better off trying to go for just about any girl that you'll see more than once but one needn't fear this kind of nonsense.

 

[Dr.Suave]

I´ve never met anyone who got to jail time or banned from somewhere for cold approaching.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I´ve never met anyone who got to jail time or banned from somewhere for cold approaching.

Theyre saying in some other countries you can. I believe in Canada they passed agressive laws and perhaps Sweden.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Theyre saying in some other countries you can. I believe in Canada they passed agressive laws and perhaps Sweden.

B1tches are f0cking insane

 

[Tilex]

That guy from the Campus story was trying to be funny using canned lines, but he came off as inauthentic and it scared everyone.
"Relax, this is not a robbery" is not a good way to open a set.
It creeps people out and isn't funny in a humorous way.
Even I was a bit creeped out when I read the story.

There are many ways to be funny when opening sets, but it needs to be tailored to the environment and the audience.
The best material for studying and opening cold sets are prank videos.
JSTU and Impractical Jokers always have the best idea's for approaching.

 

[MatureDJ]

But there isn't a unanimous agreement on which 80% of men are ugly so just find the women who put you in the 20%, you're ****ed on OLD though

I'm sure that Brad Pitt is in the 20%, while this "patron saint of the incels" is in the 80%:

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*Srv7u3xDx069WG6UyVsePQ.jpeg

 

[Spaz]

I'm sure that Brad Pitt is in the 20%, while this "patron saint of the incels" is in the 80%:

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*Srv7u3xDx069WG6UyVsePQ.jpeg

That picture explains a lot. LMAO

 

[oldmanofthesea]

If you are confident and going for a woman within your grasp (below your league, in your league, or slightly above your league in terms of appearance), and you approach them properly and are not a psychopath who can't read signals, then the worst problem you'll likely ever face is being ignored.

PU artists try to do this whole song and dance. That's lame. @RangerMIke said everything there is to say about that. YouTube search "how to hold conversation like a man Nick Sparks". You put VERY little effort into it. "Hey, how's it going?" She's not interested? Done. Don't do the PU artist thing and keep pushing. PU artists think that the right combination of action will cause success, and failure is all on them, instead of doing what RangerMike suggests which is to simple use it to gauge a girls attraction.

While I DO agree with the study you linked to, that most women, regardless of how unhappy they are with their own appearance or their willingness to actually do anything to fix it, seem to think they are entitled to date male models, I have found that most women respond quite positively to a guy who has the balls to talk to them and isn't a nervous wreck or putting on an obvious performance for them when doing so. I talk to all women, for fun and practice, hot ones, old ones, fat ones, you name it. I find them all to be about equally receptive with the only exception being that the hot ones like to put on a tough exterior shell before you say anything to them. They also like to pretend they didn't hear you, but I think it comes from insecurity, as if they don't want to MISTAKE you talking to them only to find out you really weren't. So if you are bold and direct, they usually respond well. If not, who cares.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Personally I dont believe cold approach is necessary to open to a random girl, my technique is just to interact with her within her space without actually engaging her.

From her reaction to me invading her space I already now if its worth to talk to her or not, even easier than reading body language is to see how people react to your presence in their near space.

Then comes body language and talking, this way I have a 80% success score while if I were to go for conventional cold approach it would be probably less than 10.

Lets say its a club, just sit near a girl and see her reaction...no need to talk, you just get a decent feedback of how she see you.
If she keeps her position, look at you and smile then go for a brief neutral line...if she withdraw and create distance while putting an effort to avoid eye contact then save your time.

 

[Murk]

If you’re half attractive and have some game/banter/wits about you then cold approach is light work.

 

[devilkingx2]

PU artists try to do this whole song and dance. That's lame. RangerMIke said everything there is to say about that. YouTube search "how to hold conversation like a man Nick Sparks". You put VERY little effort into it. "Hey, how's it going?" She's not interested? Done. Don't do the PU artist thing and keep pushing. PU artists think that the right combination of action will cause success, and failure is all on them, instead of doing what RangerMike suggests which is to simple use it to gauge a girls attraction.

I think you should put in a reasonable effort. Try to talk to a girl for 30 seconds to 1 minute no matter what (unless she completely blows you out immediately), and eject immediately if it didn't go well.

No need to waste 5 minutes trying to tell 100 jokes and your life story to some boring girl that can't form a sentence, but just because her first response wasn't bubbly and a paragraph long doesn't mean she isn't worth the effort

It's a balancing act really.

 

[Trump]

This Eaton Centre swarm began to unravel when Reddit user HoneyThyme submitted an account of a recent experience she had in a thread called "Something weird is going on at the Eaton Centre." In it, she described how men approached her twice in one day and again a few weeks later, all offering her the same pitch

So if they offered her a different pitch she would be ok?