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I sometimes buy Christmas gifts from an import business in Florida. I got an email from them today that said:

Section 232 Tariffs on Aluminum and Steel
Due to the recently imposed tariffs by the U.S. government on some of our key product categories, we have no choice but to raise the price of the effected goods to shoulder the added cost of importing these products.
 

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This is great news.

How important are steel and aluminum to manufacturing and the military?

What is the risk of importing steel and aluminum from authoritarian governments?

What capabilities are key to having the world's strongest military?
I would say 1. Very, but now the defense budget is sure to increase; 2. We don't. We import from other nations whose governments may or may not be more authoritarian than ours. Does that mean the steel is more oppressed? I don't know. And 3. Continuing to fukk up the world as we have been, and getting bogged down in pointless quagmires. Have we declared victory in Afghanistan yet?

The USA is not just the military. There are also hundreds of millions of every day consumers affected. If this is some kind of national security issue, the DoD should pay the difference out of its budget.

Must everything be seen through the military-industrial complex goggles? More pigs at the trough as the country backslides.

Ask yourself: Are the questions you've posed befitting the world's largest democracy, or just another fossilized Socialist empire?
 

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Must everything be seen through the military-industrial complex goggles? More pigs at the trough as the country backslides.
That reminds me of a quote from a recent article about climate change.

https://www.salon.com/2018/08/05/on-climate-change-its-time-to-start-panicking/

The real problem, in my view, isn’t the nature of our economic system, it’s the way that special interests and plutocrats have blocked the sort of common-sense market approaches to dealing with environmental problems that were once supported by democrats and republicans alike. The problem is the moral and ethical rot that now lies at the very center of the republican establishment, the lack of good faith and the total sellout to special interests and plutocrats.
 

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Guys.

You realize that cutting the trees won't stop the burning ? Russia, West-Coast Canada, California etc... Have all the same issues.... The Heat!

The Trees are starting to burn because they aren't trees made for these types of weather.

''It's global warming if you wanna call it''.... However, it's great for the economy.... Why ? Because now Russia and Canada can access territories that were never accessible... we will finally be able to dig that Oil, Diamond, Uranium, Potash.

Forest Fires starts from the soils.

Since it starts from the soils... it will still burn... but the fire won't be able to monkey-branch by using trees.

In the USA... The military is around 10 millions jobs (direct and indirect).... mostly all to make a ''war against Russia''. It also the main employer in 70% of Republican voting states. It's labelled as ''security'' but who ever invaded the USA too far, too big, too many populations. Security is a big job provider.

USA imports from Russia: Steel and Iron (5th biggests importer), also it import Oils, Uranium, agricultural fertilizers, platinum
https://ustr.gov/map/countriesaz/ru

USA-Russia trade balance is a deficit for the USA (by 15 billions)

Canada-Russia are necessary allies of the USA because we have ALL the ressources of the world including Fresh Water.

Russia supplies most of the energy of Europe... they just need to turn off the gaz valve and Europe going in a Energy Crisis

China and USA have alot of ressources (USA has alot more than China) but some strategic ressources are moslty in Canada and the USA.

China, USA, India will be bigger consumer than producers in a few decades (around 2050) due to aging population.à

The American-Build Chinese factories are starting to be ''outdated'' too, but they still much more modern than the USA ones.

Why do you think liberals support illegal/immigration? It's more than just vote!

In Canada, we have a shortgage of jobs especially in tourism, vacation industry (day camps), lifeguards, restaurants, farms, factories.... due to aging population and the ''white-european 1st world country problems of not wanting to do dirty jobs''.... They need immigrants to fill the spot.

Trump is great entertainement and I believe he's really smart in his dealings. However... it won't be enough to save his voting base industries. Time are changing.

Texas started booming after decades of crisis... why? They cut the minimun wages... They getting jobs back from China and using robots for the rest.

China been outsourcing productions to Vietnam and Thailand, Laos, Cambodge, Indonesia.... Wage in China are too high now.

Trade Wars are better than Gun Wars

Trump will become God-Emperor and start the Trump dynasty. Like the Clinton, Like the Bush, Like the Kennedy, Like the Trudeau.

Democracy is dying in the Western-Occidental-FirstWorld. Millenials seek authority.

The USA in the 1950's passed a ''Freedom for ressources policy''... It would bring ''Democracy through Authoritarian Regime backed by the USA military in exchange of their resssources to provide wealth-freedom to USA citizens''
Ex: Saddam Hussein in Irak, OsamaBenLaden in Afghanistan, Videla in Argentina, Brazil 1964 coup, Nixon Economic war in China, Pinochet in Chile, CostaRica no-stop coup d'état (Flores to Samoza), El Savador Ceren, Guatemala 1954 and 1980's, etc etc.. (etc cause its all of Latin American since the 1950's) All of Latin America (with the US Death Troopers aka Squads), Lybia to counter Italy, Haiti Regimes 1980's and 90's, Lebanon in the 1960's, Syria 1950's etc. etc...
Alot had to do with Communist fighting but it was also to install pro-american dictatorship that would give ressources to USA citizens.

BTW! The American Military budget is fake... it's actually paid by foreigners (me!) due to USD policies and trade agreement... it's closely linked to Trade deficit. So ''balancing the trade commercial accounts would dilude the USA military budget''. Who do you think pays for the Polish Army base ? The polish citizens
 
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The Trees are starting to burn because they aren't trees made for these types of weather.

''It's global warming if you wanna call it''.... However, it's great for the economy.... Why ? Because now Russia and Canada can access territories that were never accessible...
There are also new shipping routes around the north side of Russia that are going to open when climate change thaws the ice. Putin has been building Russian bases in northern areas that look like their location does not make sense, until you look at what the sea will look like after it thaws.

The Trumpers are all climate change deniers, yet they love Putin, who is obviously preparing his country for that future. If only our Great Leader were as wise as him.....
 

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There are also new shipping routes around the north side of Russia that are going to open when climate change thaws the ice. Putin has been building Russian bases in northern areas that look like their location does not make sense, until you look at what the sea will look like after it thaws.

The Trumpers are all climate change deniers, yet they love Putin, who is obviously preparing his country for that future. If only our Great Leader were as wise as him.....
True, it might have passed unnoticed in the USA but did you know Obama and Canada previous governement (Harper) and early Trudeau were actually having a diplomatic fight about Northen Canada (North Pole).
USA was declaring that Northen Canada belongs to the USA (even if it was our ''geographical rights'')... Why? The ice is melting up North.

Russia/Danemark/USA/Canada/Norwayare disputing the new North Pole trade routes. Canada has been adding military base in the North too.

The Panama Passage is losing traffic because its easier and faster to go up North now by boat to reach Asia.

The weather is shifting... Soon Mexico will be covered in Snow like Canada used to. New York had more snow than Canada for the past 5 years. Our canadian wildlife especially winter animals have been spotted in CostaRica.

Animals have a 6th sense about Weather
 

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America is about to become super rich and is already doing so under President Trump's leadership.They way we will do it is simple...TARRIFS...all we have to do is have a level playing field on TARRIFS...no one in the world can touch our fvcking powerhouse of an economy..The world is already scared sh!tless…..USA..USA !!
 

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Nobody denies "climate change". But they do challenge that it is man made.

The climate changed long before we were here, and it will change long after we are gone.
You know I am a Liberal-Conservative :p ... Fiscaly Conservatie - Liberal Socially.

Every day I find myself more and more in conflict with the liberal extremes and society disolvement.... We going from the ''Religious-Moral-Conservative-Authoritarian extreme- ToptoBottom'' to now Extremes of ''bottom-up run again by an elite of moral defender''.

Society needs a Moral Authority... Left-Right-Center.

You know what society also needs ? A Place .... Earth.

Earth however has the same mood-swing has humans and their society.

Once in a while, it decides to have a mood swing.... go from hot to cold, cold to hot. Like a Woman

It's a natural phenomenon but this phenomenon does have ''human side effect - help - buff''.

Humans aren't responsible for climate change but they do make it worse (we see it in local communities).

What I don't buy is this: ''Earth is dying''.... Sure the Earth will die cause of the pollution... except... Earth is where we live... the foundations... Foundations usually last longer than its inhabitants after a crisis.
It's human who needs to be ''Saved'' not Earth.... Earth even if polluted... what's a 100year plastic bag lifetime compared to 5 billions years :p.

Earth will just ''rejunevate''.

Look at Chernobyl in Ukraine... Afer the nuclear reactor explosion... humans were forced out for decades... Now Chernobyl is full of wildlife and green space. Nuclear explosions are good for nature.

Humans are in ****, not the Earth... Earth will get by just fine.

Also these ''green technology'' I really believe in them... except you know what ? A Tesla is sure green when driving but its alot of dirt and pollutions to the chinese digging through mining the minerals needed for it.... Green for Occidentals, Massive pollution to Asians.

It's we are green... cause we pollute someone else.
Hypocrisis.

Now ending my rent: Climate change is happening, there is human elements in it but it's natural and we will be the ones to suffer. Look at all the Weather crisis in the USA now... Weather is becoming BPD and extreme more often
 

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What I don't buy is this: ''Earth is dying''.... Sure the Earth will die cause of the pollution... except... Earth is where we live... the foundations... Foundations usually last longer than its inhabitants after a crisis.
It's human who needs to be ''Saved'' not Earth.... Earth even if polluted... what's a 100year plastic bag lifetime compared to 5 billions years :p.

Earth will just ''rejunevate''.
Spot on. As George Carlin said to those who would save the planet, "the planet's not going anywhere. WE are..."

All environmentalism is just about saving the human race.
 
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