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It means she doesn't really like you and she doesn't see you as long term material. I find that women who say this usually mean you aren't ahole enough for her, you might be too nice, she doesn't see you as aggressive, or she doesn't see you as a winner.
 

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The meaning behind the words is irrelevant. The meaning behind the action is she's no longer interested.
 

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You’re doing something wrong, idk what it is. But if you’re blowing out chicks left and right, you’re trying too hard. Once you’re having sex you can turn off the try hard ****
 

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Some of y'all are overthinking this. It doesn't matter what she says or the why she says it, it's how she's acting. Butterflies, no chemistry, it's me not you... they're all the same thing. Instead of analyzing what she's saying just move on from it and onto the next one.
 

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I've had several women say the following:

"I really like you and think you are very sexy, but I just don't feel any butterflies in my stomach...so I don't think I want to keep seeing you"

All of them used this exact expression "no butterflies in my stomach" and gave that as the reason to end things. It kinda sounds like a polite way to say "I don't find you attractive" but most of these girls were already having sex with me (sex was good and they were eager for more), they were constantly texting me, looking for my attention, some even indicated they wanted me as their boyfriend etc. In other words, they definitely were attracted and showed high interest, so it's not a case of LJBF or anything.

So wtf did they mean then? Has any of you guys heard this line before under those circumstances? High attraction, high interest but.....no butterflies in her stomach, so she wants to end things...
I can only speculate. You would need to share more about these women and the relationships that ensued.

I had a girl once tell me she didn't have butterflies and she said she found me physically attractive and showed plenty of interest. I didn't always call her like I should, didn't return texts in a timely manner and as a result it didn't make her feel comfortable with the relationship. It was really all about drinks, hanging out, and sex. Not much intimacy and I think this was what she really meant. She told me our sex was awesome(pretty much pornstar like). I certainly didn't have "loving" chic style sex with this girl. Girls need some of that to get their needs met. I really wasn't emotionally available to her and that led to the demise. Women need more than the physical, visual connection thats guys need. They need that emotional and verbal connection that creates butterflies.
 

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I've had several women say the following:

"I really like you and think you are very sexy, but I just don't feel any butterflies in my stomach...so I don't think I want to keep seeing you"

All of them used this exact expression "no butterflies in my stomach" and gave that as the reason to end things. It kinda sounds like a polite way to say "I don't find you attractive" but most of these girls were already having sex with me (sex was good and they were eager for more), they were constantly texting me, looking for my attention, some even indicated they wanted me as their boyfriend etc. In other words, they definitely were attracted and showed high interest, so it's not a case of LJBF or anything.

So wtf did they mean then? Has any of you guys heard this line before under those circumstances? High attraction, high interest but.....no butterflies in her stomach, so she wants to end things...
Had a girl who I was in the friendzone with tell me, "You make my heart happy!" What does that even mean. Hahaha
 

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A girl who base her Sex life on "butterflies" will always be a short-term plate.

They driven by the "high-honeymoon-lust" .. So you'll be gone after 6month or even 2 years.

A study showed that stable couples LTR are the ones that have the "lowest emotional fluctuation" ... They are the couple has no butterfly.

The research was determining the "HeartBeat of the Heart"... The lower the HeartBeat fluctuation the longer the couple lastest... The more " nervous or high HeartBeat" the shorter the LTR was.

Anyway, when they say that... You either are dead or need a massive come-back lay her
 

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I think women only need more than one c0ck to be jaded :p
for years I always believed that one c0ck was enough for them but they are greedy lol.. so why can't men have more than one pvussy ...equal rights an all that.
 

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A girl who base her Sex life on "butterflies" will always be a short-term plate.

They driven by the "high-honeymoon-lust" .. So you'll be gone after 6month or even 2 years.

A study showed that stable couples LTR are the ones that have the "lowest emotional fluctuation" ... They are the couple has no butterfly.

The research was determining the "HeartBeat of the Heart"... The lower the HeartBeat fluctuation the longer the couple lastest... The more " nervous or high HeartBeat" the shorter the LTR was.

Anyway, when they say that... You either are dead or need a massive come-back lay her
I disagree with some of this, and I think some of you are applying way too much logic to the concept of "butterflies" and also your reaction to it.

I don't know what study you're citing, but the heart rate of the subjects could be beating fast or slow depending on plenty of variables - nervousness about being in a study, fear of partner leaving, or simply real attraction which can happen well after the honeymoon stage.

Assuming she's being honest, you guys have never gotten nervous or excited around a woman you met or started dating? I understand what she means, I've been there, red pill and all. If you're not feeling that, you're missing out, and I don't see it as a harbinger of a doomed relationship - it can go either way. You're allowed to enjoy these pleasures in life, no matter how juvenile they may seem, as long as you keep your head screwed on straight.

And like I said, her words ultimately don't add up to much anyway, it's her actions that count. For example, if she said it with a smile on her face while she was in your bed taking her clothes off would you bat an eyelash? Doubt it. There's no need to be hamstering this stuff, keep it simple.
 

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OP- I would take "you dont give me butterfiles" as a combination of several things:

1.) You dont make her wet when she thinks about you.

2.) You are too predictable. Probably too nice too

3.) You have a scarcity mindset.

4.) She knows what to expect from you and sees that as dull/boring.

5.) You are too available.

6.) You do not have a high enough self respect.

None of these things will get a woman thinking about you, lusting for you and make them chase you. Therefore, the "butterflies" arent there.

Pressure, nervousness, excitement, not sure what to expect.......all things that give women butterflies. Be that guy instead. It isnt hard. Stop answering all their calls. Stop responding so quickly to their texts. Cancel a date last minute with no reason. Dont be afraid to call her out on her bullshyte from time to time. Treat her like a child (in a good way....unless she just has to get a spanking). Go out with a chick and not tell her where you are taking her from time to time. Spice things up in the bedroom.

Bottom line- take charge and be a man. Lead. They will submit.
 

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I disagree with some of this, and I think some of you are applying way too much logic to the concept of "butterflies" and also your reaction to it.

I don't know what study you're citing, but the heart rate of the subjects could be beating fast or slow depending on plenty of variables - nervousness about being in a study, fear of partner leaving, or simply real attraction which can happen well after the honeymoon stage.

Assuming she's being honest, you guys have never gotten nervous or excited around a woman you met or started dating? I understand what she means, I've been there, red pill and all. If you're not feeling that, you're missing out, and I don't see it as a harbinger of a doomed relationship - it can go either way. You're allowed to enjoy these pleasures in life, no matter how juvenile they may seem, as long as you keep your head screwed on straight.

And like I said, her words ultimately don't add up to much anyway, it's her actions that count. For example, if she said it with a smile on her face while she was in your bed taking her clothes off would you bat an eyelash? Doubt it. There's no need to be hamstering this stuff, keep it simple.
Man in any publish studies those factors are taken into consideration using a control group.

If the studies is publish it as been vetted by expert
 

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Man in any publish studies those factors are taken into consideration using a control group.

If the studies is publish it as been vetted by expert
Cool, where can I find it.
 

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Cool, where can I find it.
Idk im not the one that quoted it
But ik that publish studies are usually well made to control variable
AS Someone with a science background thats usaly how reserch work
 

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But ik that publish studies are usually well made to control variable
AS Someone with a science background thats usaly how reserch work
Right, I get that. I don't know how you can control for reported "butterflies." A control group would mean something else entirely, like one group of long time married couples, a control group of strangers paired with each other. And even if they are measuring anxiety they still don't know the source of it.
 

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Right, I get that. I don't know how you can control for reported "butterflies." A control group would mean something else entirely, like one group of long time married couples, a control group of strangers paired with each other. And even if they are measuring anxiety they still don't know the source of it.
I agree that it seems to be very challenging to control every variable.

Also for a good study it would need to be a large sample that can be hard to aquire
 

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She’s expressing (unbeknownst to her) that it thrills her to know she has an orbiter who gives her attention and validation.
 
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