Generally, guys seem to think that approaching women is all about winning or losing. Either you will get the girl interested in you and get a date/girlfriend/f*ck (win) or you will be rejected and/or embarrassed(lose). It's the way most guys see it, so that's just the way it is, right? Wrong. Winning and losing don't even come into it. It is all about one thing - experience. At the start, most (if not all) potential Don Juans will be rejected at one stage or another. This is not to be seen as losing! What it is really doing is teaching you the error of your ways, the mistakes you've made, and how to IMPROVE your methods. No amount of learning from this site (as great as it is) can prepare you for the reality of it. It sounds simple enough in print, but in person it can be a whole new game. You have to learn from your mistakes, and the mistakes of others if you hope to shed your AFC ways and improve your abilities to that of a truly great Don Juan. Eventually, a potential Don Juan will begin to see how things really work, and he will begin to (as AFC's will call it) start winning. This isn't an accurate way of seeing it either, although winning women over is always something fun to boast about to your (unsuccessful) mates. It, again, is a form of experience. The game is far from over. You still have to hold onto this woman and keep her interest in you at a maximum. If you're only after sex buddies, you still have to work hard to learn better ways to enjoy it better (for you and her), and still keep them coming back for more. Even with success, the game is far from over! So when you're on the approach next time, keep in mind that regardless of what happens, you will not win or lose. You will gain experience which will help you hone your skills, and it is invaluable to you in the future - and that can be more important than a quick f*ck. ------------------ The Human Body Is A Fragile Thing, But The Human Soul Can NEVER Be Truly Broken.