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we hang out, but she doesn't want to date

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hung out with this girl i've known for a year last night and im hanging out with her again tonight.

she says she doesn't want to date anyone but wasn't last night technically a date? it was just me and her.

she was also telling me she felt weird when i was touching her (kino) and that she deonst like to be touched if shes not going out with her person. and im supposed to be hanging out with her today so i said ok i dont see u as a friend obviously and if u see me as a friend only i dont want to hang out today.

after i said this she goes "OK SORRY, U CAN TOUCH ME"

whats her deal? maybe she really wants to take it slow? i tried telling her im not gonna associate with her whatsoever if she thinks of me as a freind only i dont know what else i can do.
 

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This girl has no interest in you. She said she just wanted to be friends with you and not too touch her. These are terrible signs.

She sees you as her Girlfriend. She is looking to fvck someone else. Don't get your hopes up with this girl. You will most likely end up wacking off tonight to internet porn if you go out with her.
 

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Du Work Son said:
why did she invite me to her house twice over the past weekend then.
To have sex with you? Did you fvck? I bet not. Because friends don't fvck. Woman will never invite a guy to her house, unless she fvcked him before. Did you two fvck before? No. So she envited you to her home as a friend. You are wanting more.





Have a look at this: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16420&highlight=interest+level+scale


You are in 40 - 49 % zone. There is nothing you can do at this point, stop wasting your time. Being a girlfriend means you're not a man, she don't respect you, and you are what we call an emotional tampon.

What to do?

Self improvement.


You are right now an AFC, admit to it, become a recovering AFC, and start your transformation to DJ. It's not hard at all, it's a lot of fun, as long as you are willing to change. Usually physique improvements go hand in hand, so hit the gym.


What went wrong? Chicks are like guys, they are not gods, they eat, sh!t, and sleep. When you two met, you had a choice, become her friend, or become her lover. Because you are wuss about your sexuality, and because you hide it from her, you become her friend. Now you want more, you can't have more. Most people can't even handle the fact that they can't have more. Are you above the most? Don't be average. The right thing to do at this point is not to get piss or mad, just stop seeing her and move on with your life.

Ideally, a self respecting guy would not go with a woman for more than 5 dates (or hang out, what ever you call them), if she's not giving sex. That's like the bottom of self respecting guy. A true player gets laid now, maybe 1 date, maybe 3 if she's worth it, but past that is just rediculous and not worth time.

You see, women are just as horny, and they want sex just as you want it. But guys, more guys, are fvcked to their heads. They treat women like something other than a piece of a55 you want to stick your c0ck into, because they are afraid, they're wusses. They are insecure about having a d1ck. Women see that, and they immediately know if you're something they want to have sex with, or something they want as a friend. Some AFCs are soooo fvcked up, nobody even wants them as friends.


You are an AFC. You want to ask woman on a date. (it is true) You would literally go, "would you like to go out on a date with me?" And you will be afraid if she says no. This act is giving her all the power you have, and putting you into the basket of average freaks she would not want to fvck. A DJ, would not ask a woman to go on a date, he's tell her I'm going to hang out there, would you like to tag alone with me? No fear of if she says no, because if she does say no she is missing out, and when she is missing out she has a girlfriend like you to hang out with. AND YOU ARE NOT FUN..

Why do you want girl on a date? So you can get to know her, and then if you like her, you can fvck her. You my friend, go on a date because you want sex in return. You'd buy her things, impress her, and show her good time. But you won't get pvssy, because this world is about survival of the fittest, she would not want your wuss gens in her children.


Time to change is now guy. You have to be tried of being a looser and wanting a change now, the rest is easy.
 

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shes never had a real boyfriend before. and shes a sophomore in hs so im almost positive shes never had sex.
 

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Ok, what do you want to achieve through your resistance to the idea that you are her friend and will not be anything more, ever???

There is no reason to deny the obvious.


You can prove this by doing what you doing and failing. When you done come back and improve yourself, do a transformation from AFC to DJ.
 

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She doesn't sound like the type of woman who will date her girlfriend.
 

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I sometimes wonder how our parents ever came to procreate without the marvelous DJ bible. :rolleyes:
 

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Is it possible that the kino you do is giving off a vibe of desperation?
Id hate to say it but in my days of afc, i was scared of touching a girl - especially if that girl was my friend and it was teh case i wanted to get into her pants..which she obviously knew.

A couple years later, when i wanted nothing to do with her...well it became the opposite.

girls just need some teasing and incentive (or convincing) that you are a prize worth dating.
 

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This is a good thing. You are interesting enough that a female wants to be your friend. The only potential let down would be if she's going through a tough time in her life and is just using you as a tissue to cry into. Tissues are for wiping asses.
 
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theposter said:
This is a good thing. You are interesting enough that a female wants to be your friend.
This is not the reason men pursue women!!! Do you pursue men to be friends?? He is pursuing because she is a female and not for a friend!!!

Some women don't like to be touched by men - this is disrespectful to non-hors!! She may be a virgin - and thus her innocence is maintained! She may see you as a hungry wolf ready to devour her!!! Virgins like to have fun and trust must be established before she is comfortable in your presence!
 

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American broads seem to like leading chumps on. In most cultures if a girl hangs around you she is probably interested in you as more than a friend. I can't imagine how limp a relationship it must be in order for a girl and boy to just remain "friends".

She isn't interested in a boyfriend? To borrow a line from someone on here, "You got yourself a hor!"
 

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I think the point is more that you didn't get yourself a hor! A hor is what you need to take your mind off this girl! I fvcked my current gf (3 years) after knowing her a week! Girls will fvck you or tweak up some sexual tension immediately if they want to fvck you! Not invite you around after one year! She is a low quality wannabe hor!
 

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and if u see me as a friend only i dont want to hang out today.

after i said this she goes "OK SORRY, U CAN TOUCH ME"
that's obviously a good sign, but overall, you should draw yourself back from this girl. Her IL isn't high enough, imo. Let her know that you are still somewhat interested in her, but become busy with other things; maybe cancel a date. Make her miss you.
 

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hung out with her last night and i just read all your responses.

it was around 11:30 and we were sitting in the parking lot. she had like 3 beers in her and i had a couple too and i wanted to park to just talk to her for a little bit

i wanted to be straight forward so i asked her waht she thoguht about me. she DID NOT want to talk about it and kept telling me to take her home. i told her to be honest with me and just tell me or else she can walk home but eventually she started saying the same things she told me earlier (i don't want to date right now, blah blah)

it was nearing 11:45 so i just took her home. i told her not to talk to me anymore and she agreed. she walked out of my car without saying a word.

so then im chilling at my buddys house after i dropped her off and she texts me

"i just wanted to say sory nkay bye"

i said "its not your fault. nice knowing you though"

then she says " ya it is cuz i drtoinkn and dnt want to admit sh*t i'll regret"

i say "Yeah thanks for not leading me on and sh*t"

she says "I did? i kinda like you but idk"

i say "Nah no u don't. your just drunk"

she says "no im serious"

then my jerk off friend took my phone and said "alright im done with you"

she replies with "im behn fuc*king serious i just dont want to talk about it"

i didnt reply after that

and now im online and she has me blocked.

lol so what did i screw up this time...
 

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Du Work Son said:
i wanted to be straight forward so i asked her waht she thoguht about me.
How romantic. Chicks don't find straight-forwardness sexy, as the next fifteen minutes illustrated.
 

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DOOD...I honestly thought this whole scenario was gonna end up in date rape...

You're old enough to drive and she's a sophmore in HS? So im assuming she's around 15-16 and you're 17-18(correct me if im wrong).

Du Work Son said:
lol so what did i screw up this time...
OK...besides the fact that your jackass of a friend sent that text you also put her in a very compromising position: She's intoxicated, she's young, and you threatened her if she didn't tell you where she really stood with you,(by her actions and words before this, yea, you're just a friend.)
 

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Why is it that every time a girl isn't 100% into a guy, the people on this site say; leave her alone, she's just using you for attention? This girl probably isn't into him "that way" but does like him as a friend.

Maybe she doesn't like him "that way" because he's making comments like this:

"i told her to be honest with me and just tell me or else she can walk home"

That is so uncool.

"she says she doesn't want to date anyone but wasn't last night technically a date? it was just me and her."

No it's not technically a date if it's just you two.

"hung out with this girl i've known for a year"

You know her for a year and maybe she needs to take it slow? How slow? 5 years before a kiss?

You should just do what you said and don't really contact her, but don't leave her stranded because "she doesn't want to talk about it." You two have known each other for a year. If you've been working her for a year, I don't see how things will change in the next few years.
 
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