That's right! You are coming here. Like I did. And you are asking questions about this one girl. Again the same way as I did. About your GF that just dumped you. About this girl you have a 3 year crush. How to get out of the friendzone with this particular girl. Anything like that... you got the idea! You just don't know what to do. She is the love of your life. The perfect girl for you. And yet, she is f*cking some other dude but you. You want to know what can you say, how can you act, what can you do to get her. Here is a community of Don Juans, Casanovas and Pickup Artists, so they must know how to get every girl, therefore the answer must be lying here somewhere right? Wrong!!! As you ask, you will see a plethora of guys, some with lots of green dots under their names, some with few and some with just one dot. And they are all answering you the same answers: Go spin some plates... Read the Bible... Your princess is in another castle... Forget about this one... Focus on yourself... You are the prize... The minute you chase is the minute she flees... Whatever the words, the main rule is always this: Give up on this girl, because there is no chance you are getting her (Or like me, getting her back). She is not attracted to you, and whatever you try to do will be more unattractive. She does not respond to your neediness. Go ghost! And then you get angry. You say that the guys don't get it. That they are all bitter women haters. If at least we knew your girl, we would understand. Your girl could not be like this, so supperficial. She could not be acting like this. She is different. She is special... She is the one. I am deeply sorry to inform you. Your girl. Your perfect little girl. She is not the exception... She is the rule. That is right. You just can't see it right now. You may need to take some heavy blows, like the ones I've got from mine, to fully understand this. Yes, there is an exception to every rule. But again I'm sorry, because not mine, not yours, and not any girl ever mentioned in here will ever be the exception. They are the sad rule. If they were not the rule, you would not be here in the first place. Do you know where would you be? You would be right next to her, planning your retirement trip. Is this what is happening right now? NO! What is happening right now is you whining over the internet to a bunch of dudes that HAVE ALREADY BEEN TRHOUGH WHAT YOU ARE GOING TRHOUGH RIGHT NOW trying to convice them that you girl is different. She is not. She is like every other girl on the planet. It may sound bitter right now. But soon you will realise this is in fact a good thing. You'll embrace their nature, and treat'em for what they are. You cannot change their Nature. THE ONLY THING YOU CAN CHANGE IS YOU!!! Yes. You have the right to have a doubt. But you've got to stop with the whining!! You start a thread. Thats ok. You ask your question because you want to know what to do. Also ok You don't get the answers you were looking for. Guess what genius? That is more than ok. That's the truth! This dudes know pretty well what the hell they are talking about. It happened to them before. Some were dumped. Some were friendzone. Some were LJBFriended. And now, thanks to that, they understand how it works. Again, I'm not saying you don't have the right to ask whatever you want. You do! This is a community and the general idea in here is for people to help you. The thing is that you got to accept the help that is given. Don't keep pushing and pushing until you find one dude that says: "Yeah, chase her, that's actually a good idea", because that will not happen. Some of you guys might understand this at first. And that is great! But some of you may not! And this latter guys will learn through pain! I've learned through pain, and boy I've learned for good. I guess I could have not learned if it was not through pain. I needed the shock! But you know what is the sad part? The sad part of learning through pain is the extended period of it. The sad part is that when you read back your posts 3 months from now, you'll see all the right answers were given to you, and you were just trying to find someone who would give you a little extra room for you to do something you knew it was stupid, only to regret it some couple posts after it! I was not as stubborn as some guys are being recently, but I was adviced. Even though, I've sent my ex a F*cking 3 pages long email, 3 months after the breakup. You know what happened? She is enjoying her life with her new boyfriend (Which was her best friend that I was not supposed to be jeallous). Travelling, going to concerts, going to parties. Just being overall happy! Do you know what does she thinks of me? That I'm a loser She does not ever want to see me again. And she just can't imagine how one day she let me put my dirty little penis inside her golden vagina. It took me some real time to get over this sh*t, and thankfully I'm over her. Regretfully though, I'm still strugling with the pain of acting as a doormat, and this is thanks to myself only for not listening to all the experienced advices. So do yourself a favour. LISTEN! I know I'm not a loser. I'm dating other chicks. Some better looking than my ex, some not. And that is it. That is life. You win some. You loose some. But see this loosing as an opportunity to improve. Not just in game. No! In life. Work hard (or get out of your dead end job like I did). Workout. Train everyday. Eat right. Learn the rules of the game! Just get your sh*t together. You have to admit that you are a sh*tty right now, and that you are the only one responsible to pull yourself up! At the end of it, you will be a new man, with self respect and self worthy. Most of all. Self sufficient. And what about this specific girl you are just asking? Well, she will always be a selfish, relying b*tch, that depend on others to feel good about herself. So what I'm trying to say with my little story is, Trust all the advice you hear in here. Some will be calm and colected. Some will be harsh. Anyway, trust them all. When some dude say "Don't do it" Don't do it. When someone say "Go ghost" Go. You got the idea! Improve yourself. Become the better man And please, stop with the whining. You are just embarassing yourself! Peace!