In your friends case, they probably never passed the physical. Sometimes no matter what guys do, what methods they use, they get tossed into the "friends zone". That's just how it is. You can't take an HB9, a guy that's rated a 5 and expect to throw some lines at her and score - no way UNLESS you're rich, celeb, etc. I rate myself as an 8 looks wise, thus an HB9 isn't too far fetched.Jitterbug said:IIf you want to bed a woman yet show no desire in your interaction with her, it's a sure fire way to get tossed in the Friend Zone. A lot of my friends get this treatment and all they get for their efforts is a long list of female "friends" that they don't have any chance with.
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