The Ultimate Kino Guide

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  1. T Dog

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    Ultimate Kino Guide

    “For the longest time I underestimated the importance of what we call kino.” Trickynick posted 12-17-2001

    Kino, a powerful and misunderstood tool in the DJ arsenal. To better understand this foreign concept I searched the DJ forum like a man on a mission. I searched over 300 threads to bring you (but mainly myself) the Ultimate Kino guide, written by the masters (and a little by me too).

    What is Kino? On the board kino is referred to as non-sexual touching. Is it non-sexual? Not hardly. A better definition is affectionate touching, but for those new to Kino, think of it as non-sexual until it becomes second nature.

    Lexomatic posted 10-12-2001
    As a tool it can be used to indicate your sexual interest in a girl and to gage her interest in you.

    Pook posted 11-06-2000
    KINO-INTIATION

    TesuqueRed posted 12-09-2001
    Who initiates that first touch, thus breaking that personal space barrier? Girls are freer with kino, freely touching their friends and others they may have a stronger desire in (that’s you stud). Some say let the girl be the first to initiate it, while others say the DJ should.

    At first I was inclined to say the woman should. But after reading the pro’s and con’s in this thread http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/000033.html I have to side on, let the DJ be the one.
    Some worry that you might scare off a girl by initiating kino first. Nonsense. If she is in to you this will not turn her off. Second, the DJ goes for what he wants. He is not passive in this quest. Letting the girl come to you is passive. Be active.

    If she was turned off, she never liked you and you never had a chance with her. You just did yourself a favor by finding out ASAP.

    DarkDream (who doesn’t use kino) posted 01-12-2002
    Don’t dismiss DarkDream totally, there is truth to what he says.

    Pro-Kino

    Dr_Feelgood posted 08-13-2001
    Pook posted 11-06-2000
    HOW TO KINO

    DarkDream posted 02-02-2002
    Pre-Kino – invading their personal space. For those who are timid about using kino, start with the pre-kino.

    DarkDream (who doesn’t use kino) does what I call, pre-kino. posted 01-12-2002
    If she is cool with you then she won’t step back or react negatively.

    Then there is the outright touching. At first it must be almost imperceptible, subtle, casual, on some sub conscience level. This is the key. It’s not overtly outright where she or anyone else would really notice.

    bclarke675 posted 12-08-2001
    After you touch her, judge her reaction. If she touches you or smiles then you know your touch was acceptable and you can continue to use kino. Increase the frequency of your touches and move a little closer to share some personal space.

    Lexomatic posted 10-12-2001
    If she reacts badly, like pulling away, opening a larger area of personal space between you two, or spraying you with mace and then kicking you in the balls, then chances are your kino was unwelcomed, too early, too clumsy, or she is just not interested in you. Actions speak louder than words. However, no damage is really done, so don’t worry about it. In fact you just did yourself a favor and found out what her interest really is. My advice would be to thank her for an interesting conversation and then move on. You can always come back and gage her interest gain after she sees you woo others with your DJ skills.

    TesuqueRed posted 12-09-2001
    TAG YOUR IT – KINO

    DonJoey posted 01-21-2002
    At this point you have developed a rapport with your target. You feel comfortable touching each other. Now it’s time to take it up a notch. This is Tag you’re it, Kino or The Ante Up. You touch her, she touches you. You touch her back, she touches you back, etc. If things are going well and she is interested in you sexual, this is when you are going to find out. Eventually you two should be getting very sexual with your touches. But this is a slow process, which may take several hours as you two get to know each other and get more confident around each other.

    An example of the progression from non-sexual to sexual kino is as follows. An innocent or accidental brush of the hands. A point is made and you touch her arm to cement that point, you “share” a moment. She touches your arm and laughs. You excuse yourself to the restroom and as you scoot by her you place you hands on her hips. When you come back you place one hand on her and you brush by. She leans into you as you do it. You sit down, her touch is freer. She places her hand on your arm a bit longer than she really needs to, but she wants to tell you about something funny she saw or thought of while you were gone. When she is done she removes her hand and stares into your eyes. You let that silence hang in the air as you digest what she told you.

    You smoothly place your hand over hers, in effect lightly pinning it to the table and say, Let’s go somewhere more blah, blah, blah, and then you look away (hand still on hers) and call the waiter over. The point is made and you remove your hand.

    In this scenario, you can see many examples of Kino and how at first it is imperceptible and then moves to the more and more obvious and sexual.

    De La Soul posted 04-06-2002
    GETTING COMFORTABLE USING KINO

    Tread softly, but use it with every woman you know or meet. You may get awkward reactions at first, from girls you already know, because they are not use to you using Kino with them. If your use of Kino is correctly done and is imperceptible then this awkwardness will be reduced to a very short period.

    Maranathaman posted 10-04-2001
    This frequent use of Kino will prepare you for when you use it on your next seduction attempt.

    bclarke675 posted 12-02-2001
    Character posted 12-02-2001
    EXAMPLES OF KINO

    THIAGO BRAZIL posted 12-08-2001
    Kino examples

    Shiftkey posted 01-31-2002
    Trickynick posted 12-17-2001
    T Dog originally posted here
    Jester posted 02-06-2002
    And of course, there’s always tickling.

    KINO REVERSAL

    The reversal is the opposite effect that Kino has on women.
    If you are really good, and a girl is really into you then by not Kino-ing a girl you can raise her interest level.

    Freewill posted 04-29-2002
    Also, as said before, kino is the Ultimate interest test.

    TesuqueRed posted 12-09-2001
    SUNSHINE GIRL

    The Sunshine girl is one of those attention Wh*&^s that flirts endlessly with everyone. She gives all the ‘buy’ signs, but she is not for sell. Luckily this is only about 10% of the girls that give kino.

    Keymaster of Goza posted 12-27-2001
    ON MISSING OPPORTUNITIES

    crowes22 posted 01-22-2002

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  2. bartender

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    wow... and now after looking at this work of art I'm going to read it.
     
  3. T Dog

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    sorry it's hard to read I'm still working on the format.
     
  4. trickynick

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    T Dog,

    All things condsidered this is a good post and I am sure it will help a lot of people. One thing however that was not mentioned that I myself did not understand at the time I wrote the post you quoted me on was that kino is an anchor. Anchors are what you set up as manifestations of certain emotional states in her mind.

    For example, if you get into a conversation about feelings of an incredible connection that excites her visibly to you, you can touch her arm or shoulder at that moment which sets up that kind of touch from you as an anchor for those feelings she is experiencing at the time you do it. In the future, you can use that same touch as a way to awaken the feelings you have anchored it once again.

    Just be aware of how things are going and she is feeling at the time you kino her. Anchoring the wrong feelings the wrong way can lead to badly botched kino.

    Just wanted to add that, but good job on the post.

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  5. bartender

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    Nice work T Dog.
     
  6. T Dog

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    Thanks Bartender.

    Trickynick, Kino as anchoring, interesting I never saw it that way. I see it as a way to emphisis a point or 'to share a moment' which could be anchoring. But really, 'sharing a moment' for me, is just an excuse to touch someone.

    Last Friday, after reading all those posts, I went to happy hour with a friend. I was using Kino like it was going out of style. And this was with women I had just meet. It was a great way to instill (anchor?) a bond between me and my new friends.
     
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    Bump.

    Help me bump DJs, many people still don't know what kino is.

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  8. De La Soul

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    Nice post, T Dog.
     
  9. bartender

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    bump
     
  10. Taz

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    There is a very important method of kino that has never been mentioned on this board. It's the "boob touch." It is explained thoroughly with illustrations on AdvancedMacking.com.

    You need to be holding a drink in order for this to work. When you're talking to a girl and standing close to her, you lean in and talk into her ear, while your hand that's holding the drink makes contact with her boob. Leave it there; you'll be surprised at how many girls let you keep it there and they may actually push up against it. Remember, this is the back of your hand touching her, so it seems totally unintentional. If she backs away, you can immediately realize that she's gonna take some effort, so if you want you can "Next" her without suffering any humiliation whatsoever.

    Here you have an unobtrusive, subtle, yet sexual method of kino, and only you and the girl know that its occuring. Add this little "magic trick" to your arsenal, DJs, and you will be pleasantly surprised.
     
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    I posted this on this board as joke over a year ago after someone forwarded the illustration to me.




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    "Then there is the outright touching. At first it must be almost imperceptible, subtle, casual, on some sub conscience level. This is the key. It’s not overtly outright where she or anyone else would really notice."

    This is so important I want to stress it again. I hear story after story from women about men being too touchy/handsy/etc. If she is aware of your initial kino, you did it wrong.



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  13. Taz

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    Are you serious? A joke?! Well I think it should be taken seriously since it works. Compare the first paragraph of your last post with the last paragraph of mine.

    Did you do it yet? Pretty similar, huh?

    This Anthony Berger guys knows what he's talking about; I haven't shelled out the cash for his book, but his free newsletter is awesome.

    What part of Florida are you from? I'm from Tampa.

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  14. T Dog

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    Agreed, I can't stress this point enough.
     
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    Damn, this guide is great! Ive been talking to this girl and I started using kino and the other day she comes up to me and grabs me around the waist and puts her palm on my stomach! lol...And shes been flirting like crazy too...
     
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    Awesome, glad to hear it!
     
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    A joke is something done to create laughter or amusement. When you consider the idea and the cheeziness of the picture, it was a joke to me and several others at the time. But the motivation behind the technique is sound in regards to kino. Can't you just see guys in bars trying to consciously try this technique while you bust up laughing?

    I haven't read the Berger stuff. No way in he| | I would pay for seduction stuff.

    I'm in Gainesneckville....



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    Never confuse "copping a feel" with kino. I don't recommend the "boob touch" as a serious form of Kino.

    But if you want to sneak in a cheap feel and not get slapped, then by all means initiate the "boob touch".
     
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    Bump, because it's so money, baby.
     
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