The Question of SOVEREIGNTY

[Pook]

Shorttimer

Since Pook has taken his anti-intellectual turn (tho he would probably argue he was always anti-intellectual) I've lost much respect for his posts.

My posts are not "Pook's Opinion Piecies". They are reflections of Nature. This is why I spend so much time detailing things in nature, literary sources, and even science.

For example, The Secret of the Jerk was not my 'opnion'. It cited the science, I cited people's letters, on and on, to reflect the truth.

The Kill That Desperation post was things I witnessed, saw for myself, and so on. The Be a Man the same thing.

It is debatable whether or not these reflections are accurate. But how can it be the coinage from an ego?

This is coinage from an ego: A guy wears a beanie and picks a chick up. Thus, the guy gets online and writes a post that says, "Guys! Wear a beanie! The beanie gets the girl!"p

This tells us nothing how Nature works. This guy's 'technique' of wearing a beanie reveals absolutely nothing in how Nature operates.

Now, if the poster said, "It is all about status! The beanie made me look like I was high status so the girls came at me."

Now we have something to work with. People can do lots of things to 'gain status'. They will not be confined to a life of beanies.

I was like you guys too. I really prized my 'intellectualisms'. It was very hard to let it go.

But I will not have to crucify you philosophers. You will crucify yourself. You have already made your cross of philosphy, so sure that the world operates in tune to it, that when Nature pulls the rug underneath from you you will find yourself on it with all women laughing at you.

You know what? They already do. Women will go for a sporty guy, an artsy guy, even a simple lumberjack, before a philosopher.

Saul Bellow wrote a book on this subject, of how a professor, so 'brilliant' couldn't even keep his marriage together.

You're right, he has said "create your own reality, don't adopt another's!" but at the same time he tells us how his and AD's reality works so we can do what? Just look? Or learn from and in the process ADOPT theirs.

This is explained above. It is one thing to do technqiues to build a house or to work out in a gym. It is quite another to deal with women, in other words, life.

Hrm... and let's not forget his "I don't have a philosophy" line. Let's see, dictionary.com says a philosophy is "A set of ideas or beliefs relating to a particular field or activity; an underlying theory."

There are no beliefs. There is only one system, Nature. What we understand, we have power to use. What we do not understand, it has power to use us.

Our life becomes happy or melancholy based on her edicts.We live through her laws, whether we like it or not.

On the topic of intellectuals, let's not forget that it's by THEIR grace we even have this world or can even have this discussion.

Nope. When language came about, people made poetry first. It was the tyrants who aim at intellectualism.

History is full of playwrights and orators using poetry to get their message across (critical of a tyrant or nobility). They used poetry because intellectuals do not understand poetry. If they did understand poetry, they would not be intellectuals.

The Renaissance that lead to the creation of the U.S. and Bill of Rights would be GONE if the intellectuals who first expressed crazy ideas like human rights had turned to "nature" instead.

Apparently, you have not read the biographies of Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Franklin, and so on.

They were interested in reflections of Nature, namely HUMAN nature. They wanted to know the patterns of history and such.

Jefferson kneeled at Shakespeare's birth place and kissed the ground.

Why did he do this, this man who would kneel before no god or Man? Why does the Declaration of Independence refer to Nature and Nature's God as the SUPREME law which we all must obey?

Why does Locke, when he wrote of the Rights of Man, looked at Man's nature?

What is the difference between Intellectualism and Genius?

Intellectualism tries to sparkle like a finely cut stone. It illuminates notihing. It is a writer trying to do the 'look at me' type, with latin phrases and odd styles.

Genius are things that illuminate things that you never knew existed in life or nature.

There are many 'academic' books that intellectuals write. No one reads them. Why? Because they illuminate nothing. All you have is 'feminist theory', 'religious theory', etc. etc. etc. All this theory!

I do not live in theory. If Nature says it, I try to reflect it back. My posts here are not works of opinion in the traditional sense. They don't aim to be that way when I post.

Oh and all those pesky nerds who made the internet, yup intellectuals. Vaccines? Intellectuals. Well you get the idea...

My anti-intellecual articles haven't even begun to be posted yet. Keep talking, I do address everything you say. But I like getting you guys on record before I post.

Now, what is so funny about this is that I was accused year or so ago that everything I said addressed to 'self improvement' and not enough at 'getting the women'. Now you guys condemn me for not following the philosophies!

I'm telling you guys that your 'super ntellectualism' will be seen as a negative to the women. Women like smart guys, they do not like guys who philosophize about everything. They honestly don't care about our stupid views on the world. Even though I disagree very much with Rousseau, he know enough to say, "Women are not attracted to genius."

Even Issac Newton couldn't win the girls he wanted with his 'genius'. And he really was a genius!

Am I saying to burn your books? No, I am saying to drop the 'intellectual' mindset. These are women, not mathmatical equations.

Why does Shakespeare say,

"There was not yet a philosopher who could endure the toothache patiently?"

A Don Juan is flesh and blood, not some guy spewing words as authorities. (BTW, that is why I believe this forum is both tonic and toxin. Once you know what you need to know, you need to CLEANSE your system of writing posts, sitting at your computer reading, etc.)

Now, reader, look at this,

Know what happens when you turn to "nature" for your politics? You get Andrew Jackson cutting the Indian tribes into little pieces because it's our "manifest density."

Now I kill Indian tribes!

Let's not forget the "natural" superiority of the Aryan race.

Now I am a racist!

Watch Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will to see that the National Socialist Party appealed to the working anti-intellectual class the most.

Now I am a communist!

The Nazi's were teamsters before they were rolling over a continent.

Now I am a Nazi!

I already addressed all this. It is the intellectuals (and I mean people like academics, people who refuse to be flesh and blood), who think society is artificial and must be 'recreated', thus you get your Communism, your Nazism, and so on.

People, enjoying life, have no need to join mass movements or create manifestos on the world.

But I don't want to get off on these Non-Don Juanish subjects.

Sounds like a plan to me. You know there was this pesky intellecutal a few thousand years ago named Aristotle who said the very same thing? And that morality shold be structured to lead one to such a life.

Look at Aristotle's life. Do you want to emulate him? Think about it.

And don't forget who tutored Alexander the Great. I mean this as an insult to Aristotle.

Now, I have only put out one anti-intellectual post so far, the Fountain of Youth. Do you guys have any comments on it?

Can your intellectualism beat the joy of a child?

 

[Big Pappy]

kudo's!

The Wife of Bath's Tale? I recall reading that tale in English class a very long time ago. The only thing I recall was

"When something's near, and can't be had,
We want and pine for it, all day like mad."

Mr. Gordon,


I read in the bible that Paul said that he would rather speak three words that everyone could understand than 1000 that no one could.

I understood what you were after. It makes sense to me. However, the cynic in me would suggest that you're giving the ladies too much credit.

Pook,

I'd buy a book if you wrote it!

 

[George Gordon]

Re: kudo's!

Originally posted by Big Pappy
I understood what you were after. It makes sense to me. However, the cynic in me would suggest that you're giving the ladies too much credit.

Big Pappy, hi.

In what way do you think I'm giving the ladies too much credit?

!GEORGE GORDON!

 

[Big Pappy]

Lay off the pook!

Gordon -

"Women's desire to garter dominion over men is nothing more than an on-going TEST to guarentee that their man is, just that, a man. "

I really don't think women are conciously testing our manliness in this way.


Regarding ego -

I recall a professor once asked our class to come up with an objective statement for a resume. We had about three minutes to come up with it. As each student recited their objective statement, a pattern emerged. Each student stated what they wanted from the prospective company.

"Entry level position sought in a company which will allow me to grow ... blah, blah, blah. "

Pook, on his posts, is dead on leaving out his personal examples. He is not centered on self because a true DJ is not centered on himself. Not entirely. He looks at the situation from the girls point of view, with a dash of logic and a touch of inferential leaps.

I'm not the wisest or most capable fellow within this BB, but I can tell you, the Pook knows his stuff. We would all do well to read his words.

Sometimes, you have to eat the meat and leave the bone on the plate. Situational - specific advice or pleas for advice are a stretch at best. The Pook knows this and tries to aid us lower plane thinking mortals with concepts and tenets of behavior.

Just my two cents worth.

 

[George Gordon]

Re: Lay off the pook!

Originally posted by Big Pappy
I really don't think women are conciously testing our manliness in this way.

I never said it was conscious. I think I implied, at least in other posts, that woman's ability resides in their intuiative and instinctual feminine nature. I'm giving nature credit for being so resourceful, not woman, not man.

!GEORGE GORDON!

 

[Zoso]

It is the intellectuals (and I mean people like academics, people who refuse to be flesh and blood), who think society is artificial and must be 'recreated', thus you get your Communism, your Nazism, and so on.

Pook, I hear what you're saying, but could you better clarify what you mean by "intellectuals"? I had been reading it as synonymous with 'intelligent people' but maybe this is too general? Because intelligence doesn't necessarily mean you "refuse to be flesh and blood."

 

[Pook]

You guys are not 'intellectuals' in the context I'm using.

Intellectuals are ivory towered brats. All feminists, for example, are intellectuals. Intellectuals think sexuality is artificial or society generated, so they think if they pass a law or put a practice in a public school, it will be 'fixed'.

Most professors are 'intellectuals'. They write books no one reads, their writing style is so atrocious that they cannot write in a conversational way, and they live in a realm of theory.

Gender theory. Feminist theory. So on and so on.

Many intellectuals think it is their destiny to become a politiican, because everyone else is stupid and they are so brilliant. Many intellectuals desire to become lawyers. Is it because they love law? No, they yearn for a type of power.

Having taken some law classes, I can tell you the law is very monotonous and dull. But the intellectual demands that he/she becomes a lawyer so everyone will drop praises on him/her.

Intellectuals are really elitist. When they read the classics, they see them only as 'authorities'. "I have read Plato. Thus, I am very smart."

Take a kid who reads and gets lost in the thrill of the story. This kid knows how to read! But the intellectual reads the same story and goes, "What! It is using male pronouns! How evil!" does not know how to read. It is the guy who reads literature and finds only 'symbols'.

The intellectual really doesn't understand what life is about. Many intellectuals DESPISE sexuality. Remember the stupid guy who played on the football team? He got the girls. But the intellectual who philosophized about 'everything'? He got no girls. Rather than admiting that he may be doing something wrong, he just concludes that the world is rotten, that women are evil, and nothing more needs to be said on it.

In college, you can find a pre-intellectual almost anywhere. But they usually tend to major in journalism (Why do you want to become a Journalist? "Because I want to save the world!" But you don't save the world, you just write about what other people do.) or in political science ("I want to become a lawyer!" How original. I think there are more law students then there are lawyers out there!).

Generally, intellectuals are snobs and think very highly of themselves.

What I like to do, is to go to a class (say a shakespeare class) and look like a punk. Meaning I wear very sporty clothes with a baseball cap on backwards. I am very masculine so I look like a thug almost.

When the professor asks for comments, reactions, or questions, I steal the class. I know the material better than the intellectuals in class. Is it because I'm smarter? No. It is because I never considred formal schooling to educate me properly, thus I must read extensively on my own.

You have to see the faces of some of these intellectuals when I do this! Why, it is one thing if another intellectual (dork) does it to them, but this hyper-masculine guy? He is supposed to be stupid, not being as brilliant as the professor!

The girls watching this are amazed, shocked, their mouths hang open. After that, the girls keep bugging me. "Please go out with me!" they say in their body language and actions.

I think it shows that women like intelligent guys but also sexualized guys. Many sexualized guys are in the 'jock' or 'fraternity' mode. So when they see a guy having both traits, they really chomp down.

What is funny is that years ago, I was an intellectual. I was dork boy. I was going to become a lawyer and show the world what is wrong with it. When someone took a look at me, they went, "He must be smart" (because I was so geeky).

Now when someone looks at me, they go, "Whoa. He's a giant. He must work-out do sports." This is perfect because when I speak about something, their eyes light up and they start to bug me.

An intellectual is someone who believes intellect is the only virtue. "He is stupid" is their favorite insult. But a dumb strong man, whose word is oak, who has principles, will have more respect from women than an intellectual will have in his lifetime. Women will pick the MEN from the intellectuals.

 

[IrReSiStIbLe]

Pook, I love you...!! *hugs Pook*
Your posts never sieze to amaze me.

Keep it up,
Irresistible.

P.S
WRITE A BOOK ALREADY!! lol

 

[jakethasnake]

*phew* This is some Major League shyt right here. Just bumping this up and 'marking it' with my post for easier identification. Thank you.

 

[Crotch Sniffer]

Originally posted by Pook
What! Do you require a technique in order to laugh? The 'become a pook' is humerous. It was a suggestion that a poster here told me to do.

You have an interesting sense of humor Pook.

*opens up the Dummies Guide to Laughter*

Ha..Ha..Ha

Originally posted by Pook
The entire idea is to get a sense of self, to be a man, to stop with the anxiety, and the world unfolds as you want.

Glad you finally admit you have a PHILOSOPHY!

Originally posted by Pook
when parents say they created a baby, ought we to say, "No, the baby is just a combination of molecules?" And if that child grows, as Nature intends it to, ought we to say, "How the molecules are dividing!"

I created my current life, no one else did it for me. I said, "This was what I want to be" and poof, it was so.

Quite the contrary. My point was that you CHOSE your influences, much like us DJs do. Some of us admire your work, others are MOTU fans, ASF etc. You are not content to disagree with ASF guys, they MUST be a supplicating performance monkeys who live and breathe only for pvssy. There is no other explanation!

Originally posted by Pook
Anti-Dump would say not to call a girl before 3 days.

The point of the post is not about the 3 days. The POINT is to show the Machine at work. You could use 2 days or whatever. Anti-Dump's quotes are just examples.

You just proved my point actually. You said that ANtiDumps Machine posts was just a loose framework that we can use to filter out the bad eggs. We dont have to follow every instruction to the detail..

so we are still free to choose and create our own world!

In the same way a lot of the ASF stuff is open to interpretation. Not all of it is canned material you know. Do yourself a favor and check out some of Tyler Durden´s latest posts. His insights on social dynamics and the female psyche are eye-opening and a great read!

I have no problem with you personally Pookster. I just dont like the fact that you misrepresent ASF with cheesy Gunwitch examples (my penis is too big..hahaha!, Hey wear a Beanie!! etc) when there are a lot of wise truth seekers there who, much like you, are interested in the nature of things.

 

[One on One]

Originally posted by Pook
You guys are not 'intellectuals' in the context I'm using.

Intellectuals are ivory towered brats. All feminists, for example, are intellectuals. Intellectuals think sexuality is artificial or society generated, so they think if they pass a law or put a practice in a public school, it will be 'fixed'.

Most professors are 'intellectuals'. They write books no one reads, their writing style is so atrocious that they cannot write in a conversational way, and they live in a realm of theory.

Gender theory. Feminist theory. So on and so on.

Many intellectuals think it is their destiny to become a politiican, because everyone else is stupid and they are so brilliant. Many intellectuals desire to become lawyers. Is it because they love law? No, they yearn for a type of power.

Having taken some law classes, I can tell you the law is very monotonous and dull. But the intellectual demands that he/she becomes a lawyer so everyone will drop praises on him/her.

Intellectuals are really elitist. When they read the classics, they see them only as 'authorities'. "I have read Plato. Thus, I am very smart."

Take a kid who reads and gets lost in the thrill of the story. This kid knows how to read! But the intellectual reads the same story and goes, "What! It is using male pronouns! How evil!" does not know how to read. It is the guy who reads literature and finds only 'symbols'.

The intellectual really doesn't understand what life is about. Many intellectuals DESPISE sexuality. Remember the stupid guy who played on the football team? He got the girls. But the intellectual who philosophized about 'everything'? He got no girls. Rather than admiting that he may be doing something wrong, he just concludes that the world is rotten, that women are evil, and nothing more needs to be said on it.

In college, you can find a pre-intellectual almost anywhere. But they usually tend to major in journalism (Why do you want to become a Journalist? "Because I want to save the world!" But you don't save the world, you just write about what other people do.) or in political science ("I want to become a lawyer!" How original. I think there are more law students then there are lawyers out there!).

Generally, intellectuals are snobs and think very highly of themselves.

What I like to do, is to go to a class (say a shakespeare class) and look like a punk. Meaning I wear very sporty clothes with a baseball cap on backwards. I am very masculine so I look like a thug almost.

When the professor asks for comments, reactions, or questions, I steal the class. I know the material better than the intellectuals in class. Is it because I'm smarter? No. It is because I never considred formal schooling to educate me properly, thus I must read extensively on my own.

You have to see the faces of some of these intellectuals when I do this! Why, it is one thing if another intellectual (dork) does it to them, but this hyper-masculine guy? He is supposed to be stupid, not being as brilliant as the professor!

The girls watching this are amazed, shocked, their mouths hang open. After that, the girls keep bugging me. "Please go out with me!" they say in their body language and actions.

I think it shows that women like intelligent guys but also sexualized guys. Many sexualized guys are in the 'jock' or 'fraternity' mode. So when they see a guy having both traits, they really chomp down.

What is funny is that years ago, I was an intellectual. I was dork boy. I was going to become a lawyer and show the world what is wrong with it. When someone took a look at me, they went, "He must be smart" (because I was so geeky).

Now when someone looks at me, they go, "Whoa. He's a giant. He must work-out do sports." This is perfect because when I speak about something, their eyes light up and they start to bug me.

An intellectual is someone who believes intellect is the only virtue. "He is stupid" is their favorite insult. But a dumb strong man, whose word is oak, who has principles, will have more respect from women than an intellectual will have in his lifetime. Women will pick the MEN from the intellectuals.

Excellent post!!! That sums it up perfectly. Your strategy, coincidentally, is one I am planning to use very shortly. I dress like a jock or whatever that doesn't care about school, but I'm planning on dropping some profound questions\comments in my religion class to see how the ladies react (nobody volunteers in that class and there's little chance to interact so it shows balls). I think I'm gonna print your post and, to think, I thought Pook's empire was tumbling....oh how I was wrong!

 

[DJ Mission]

Pook Wins

 

[Attraction]

damn!! i just dont understand that Pook, teh guy who changed the way i looked at life, and at the "game", should bother about writing so long posts in rebuttal of those who criticise him. hey Pook, we respect you. we arent gonna decrease ur status in our minds anyway. Then WHY on earh do you have to indulge in skirmishes with other posters?? just keep doing your work, and we are always waiting for more to come from you, except these rebuttals.

[Even these rebuttals sometimes have some good insights/foods for thought but that is only sometimes.]

 

[Attraction]

okie the thing is that ... i used to be THE INTELLECTUAL .. am still pale and skiiny .. my trainer says ... "the way u work out reveals u never played any sports" ... n he is so true .. n now that i am trying to embrace my sexuality .. i feel i am starting to do bad in my school (and my smarts in general). i find it difficult to find a balance in life... as pook says in his "secret of teh jerk"

LIFE is about balance.

also Ali ibne Abu Talib .. the most Legendary person (after the Prophet) in teh history of Islam says :

"He who cant find a balance is the biggest loser (i can't find a closer match for the Urdu word "jaahil"); he is always caught up in extremes of spectrum" (its not quoted word for word)

so i really feel ashamed when i think of myself as "teh biggest loser" according to this apt definition. could u guyz, especially Pook, tell me how YOU achieved this balance??

 

[Duke]

Wow... make sure to read Pook's replies to this thread, especially page 2. I feel like I am going through the exact same thing he went through... leaving ASF, going back to ground zero, and creating my own brave new world. Definitely bookmarking this thread.

 

[lebRambo]

Originally posted by George Gordon
If we take the story of Adam and Eve, The Fall of Man, the detriment to man is obvious—DEATH! There is nothing of woman that headship should she be awarded. She is helper; man is leader. When woman leads, the result is chaos, massacre of man.

!GEORGE GORDON!

haha, now I KNOW that you have no idea what you're talking about.

The story of Adam and Eve is a repugnant, disgusting allegory used by the church to justify the enslavement and oppression of women. Trying to use such a barbaric lie in any kind of logical dissertation destroys your credibility.

 

[Alphathree]

Those who disagree with Pook are letting their egos limit their success. If you were only willing to be wrong.

There is an entirely 'other' level of game that exists, and Pook is speaking from it. If you haven't experienced it before, you couldn't possibly understand it. In that sense, Pook's posts may fall on deaf ears.

There is a way to wake up every day feeling happy, excited, joyful and content, with or without women. It literally pulses through your veins. Once you get this feeling, everything else will solve itself. You get this feeling by understanding Pook's posts here.

(I personally got it from David DeAngelo's advanced series, but Pook actually puts it more succinctly and with less noise.)

The key is that you're going to die. If you really understand that, you'll really understand Pook's posts.

There is almost nothing useful to add to Pook's genius in this thread except the following, which I'd imagine Pook would judge as overly scientific. I'll contribute it anyway:

Individualism is the sum of taking many influences and experiences and combining them with the unqiue brain in your head and all of its special traits.

Contrast that with following a technique or method as Pook says, which is the act of copying a single individual.

I wish we could have more discussions like this one. I also wish more academics could drop their egos.

 

[George Gordon]

Originally posted by lebRambo
The story of Adam and Eve is a repugnant, disgusting allegory used by the church to justify the enslavement and oppression of women. Trying to use such a barbaric lie in any kind of logical dissertation destroys your credibility.

lebRambo,

Was your father a pastor, or why the heated response?

Listen. The story of Adam and Eve is just that; a story. And like any other story it is up to the reader to find its lesson.

Now, what determines the kind of lesson a reader pulls from a story? Is it not the reader himself? And is it not his direction?

Yes. We find what we seek.

In our case, you go to the story of Adam an Eve in a way which will work agaisnt you. Why not go to it, as to anything else, in a manner that will allow you to follow the direction you're moving in?

Yet, if the direction you're currently moving in is misguided, why not redirect it back to forward and up first?

If you didn't notice, I was using the story of Adam and Eve as a prophecy of what happens when a man gives his lead to a woman. And what consequences await him if he attempts to please women at the expense of his purpose in life.

Why not look at it through the lens I raised?

But that was two years ago. Now, let's focus on the conditions we want to bring into our lives, and less on the conditions we want to avoid.

Credibility? Who needs credibililty on a bulletin board?

!GEORGE GORDON!

 

[lebRambo]

Originally posted by George Gordon
lebRambo,

Was your father a pastor, or why the heated response?

Listen. The story of Adam and Eve is just that; a story. And like any other story it is up to the reader to find its lesson.

Now, what determines the kind of lesson a reader pulls from a story? Is it not the reader himself? And is it not his direction?

Yes. We find what we seek.

In our case, you go to the story of Adam an Eve in a way which will work agaisnt you. Why not go to it, as to anything else, in a manner that will allow you to follow the direction you're moving in?

Yet, if the direction you're currently moving in is misguided, why not redirect it back to forward and up first?

If you didn't notice, I was using the story of Adam and Eve as a prophecy of what happens when a man gives his lead to a woman. And what consequences await him if he attempts to please women at the expense of his purpose in life.

Why not look at it through the lens I raised?

But that was two years ago. Now, let's focus on the conditions we want to bring into our lives, and less on the conditions we want to avoid.

Credibility? Who needs credibililty on a bulletin board?

!GEORGE GORDON!

haha, no my father is not a religious man. Yes, but you are using this story as empirical evidence that man giving up power to a woman will result in his downfall. Now, this may or may not be the case, but using such a story to justify it is dubious.

haha, everyone needs credibility. Why is Pook so respected? Is it not that through quality posts, he has earned himself a certain credibility?

 

[iqqi]

History Time!

BUMP

For personal sentimental reasons of celebration, ...

and because it features numerous Senor Fingers aliases, Pook, Slick, ShortTimer, and more!

Enjoy the Fingz vs Pook warring, you can thank me later for this entertaining history lesson.

Enjoy, sorta-newbies who came after the great 03.

Good nite.