Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

The "Help Viper" thread.

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Viper is probably the most active poster on the High School forums, which is a bad thing. We need to help him be the DJ he wants to be, regardless of how defensive he gets.

Concerning your voice: I've a state-qualifying debater that had a terrible accent for most of my life, but I've changed it. This is how you take care of a crappy voice.

1) Record yourself. I think in another thread, someone suggested having a recorder in your pocket; that's a good idea. Go through your normal day, and play it back at night

2) Practice vocal exercises/alter your speech. There's no way you can chance ANYTHING about yourself unless you try. It took me a good 4 months of work to get my voice and diction into tip-top shape for competitions, and unless you have that dedication, nothing will happen. Be sure to talk to the debate/speech/choir coach in your school, and ask them for advice or guidance. Teachers are there for a reason, be sure to use them.

3) Don't worry about it too much. Of course, if you find the other person struggling to understand you, alter what you're saying, but remember that the most important thing about talking to girls is that you should be relaxed and confident while doing it. From what I read, it seems your voice troubles you so much that it actually becomes a problem. Don't focus as much on it, focus on your conversational skills, your game, c/f, neg hits, etc (read the Bible for more). I speak too fast, and I can crack any girl up through wit alone; that's what you should strive for, not so much changing a speaking pattern you were born with.

I'm not suggesting that you don't do parts 1 and 2, only that once you've started altering your voice, don't focus too much on exactly that. Relax while you speak, and every conversation, try to apply your changes. Relaxation is the most important.

Concerning the bullies:

The best thing to do to bullies is agree with them. I've been bullied before (because I was somewhat younger and skinnier than others in my class), but what really makes them leave you alone is simply agree.

Bully: "You're a fag, you know that, your voice is so gay, etc. etc."
Viper: "That's exactly right, and you're my gay lover."

Say this with a straight face, a light grin, and the bully will look dumbfounded. Another possible strategies:

Bully: "You're gay, you're a loser, you're a pansy, etc"
Viper: "Your mom didn't think so last night."

Or to add icing to the cake, hand him a quarter and say, "this is for last night". Again, light grin and straight face, looking at him in the eye. When he sees the confidence, and the fact that you aren't bothered, he'll stop, trust me. Of course, if you're daring and you can play it off well, you can do this:

Bully: "You're gay, etc."
Viper: "Gay people don't do this", and you suavely put your arm around a nearby girl (make it a hot girl, maybe even your target, w/e). It's situational, but it should demonstrate the right thing to do: have fun humiliating the bullies. Don't get flustered, show no anger, and don't even fight. Just look at them in the face, and mock them.

Concerning girls thinking you're slow:

Girls don't think you're slow because of your voice, more than likely, it is because of your demeanor. You're unsure of what to say, and combined with your slow voice, it leads to problems. As always, try to improve your voice, relax, and practice talking to girls you DON'T like first. Just talk and talk, uninterrupted, and get used to good DJ conversation (letting her do the talking, eye contact, c/f, bible for more).

Viper, if you have any more questions, post them here, and if anyone has any solutions, post em as well. I don't see the logic in insulting him in every post; it's better to help him so he doesn't need to ask so many questions.
 

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Why should one person who's SO FVCKING ignorant get attention like this? Treat the kid like everyone else. We're not here to hold his goddamn hand like his mommy. On COUNTLESS threads people have given him GOOD, QUALITY advice, but because he such a stubborn kid he REFUSES to listen. All he does is whine about how something doesnt work because HE doesnt think its the problem. Then he responds about not taking bullsh*t anymore and hes gonna change by talking to the hottetest girl in school. This is kinda erratic behavior. He does the SAMETHING and expects it to work each time. He needs more than confidence, the ability to hold a conversation, or approaching a girl. He needs to stop being such an ******* when the world is already standing on him watchin his life slip away. Just look how he responds to a bunch of kids on the internet. I can imagine how fvcking annoying he actually is. Too bad hes too paranoid to take up AC/DC on his offer. He doesnt wanna change because hes afraid.
 

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That's not very constructive, but I see where you're coming from. Let's give him a chance though.
 

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Perhaps you dont understand. Search his old threads. When you make 6-10 threads that get 3 pages of responses with advice and you get mad at people, and tell them what you think is wrong when you posted the sh*t in the first place, you need professional help. Im not a negative person by any means, but this kid is on the brink of hopelessness. Look at how he responds and acts, this kid is one of the weak. Survival of the fittest...this kid is like the gazelle with 3 legs.

All he has to do is read his 50 million post with the answers to ALL the questions he asked.
 

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I don't mean go on board the "anti-viper" train, but ****, that guy has gotten so much advice it could make a 6 year old a DJ.
He needs to take some action; he's spending too much time here.
I have this thing that makes me progress and develop as a DJ; it's to not get back to this board until I have gone a step further.
I think my first post here was about approaching and one of my last posts were about a friend of mine getting laid and I realised quite a bit about being a DJ when the guys here pointed out what I hadn't seen in him. I adapted and TOOK ACTION.
From being an AFC with fear of approaching to being a guy with multiple girls interested in me. The progresses I have made are because of the advice I've gotten here. You don't need to spend all day reading posts, you really don't. Read the basics and then get out there. Whenever you get stuck or a question about something pops up, come here and get some quality advice from guys that know what they're talking about. Then you move on to the next stage.
 

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Chill it Oakraider, I know Viper's annoying, but flaming him will make things worse.

Good advice, flabbergasped

Hope he'll actually take the advice and do something with it.
 

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im think he actully might be a troll lol becuase he posts the same topic with 50 differnt threads he started its pointless lol just give up on the kid. like that one kid said we dont treat anyone on this board special so why treat him like were his mommy guiding him?
 

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Perhaps you dont understand. Search his old threads. When you make 6-10 threads that get 3 pages of responses with advice and you get mad at people, and tell them what you think is wrong when you posted the sh*t in the first place, you need professional help. Im not a negative person by any means, but this kid is on the brink of hopelessness. Look at how he responds and acts, this kid is one of the weak. Survival of the fittest...this kid is like the gazelle with 3 legs.

All he has to do is read his 50 million post with the answers to ALL the questions he asked.
Shut up man, you don't know what you're talking about and neither do half the other people who post here, because they listen to YOU. If I already knew the god damn answer I wouldn't need to make a new thread, dumbass, obviously I didn't. And never call anyone "a whiner", again, with all this whining you're doing. I have no need to explain myself to the likes of you. You don't like my threads, then stay the f*ck out of them and don't post, or are you to stubborn to just ignore them? I think you are.

Originally posted by AustinG
im think he actully might be a troll lol becuase he posts the same topic with 50 differnt threads he started its pointless lol just give up on the kid. like that one kid said we dont treat anyone on this board special so why treat him like were his mommy guiding him?
I think you should do yourself a favor and shut up. Hate to sound like an ass, but when you talk sh*t about something you don't know sh*t about, it's just plain stupid.
 

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I don't mean go on board the "anti-viper" train, but ****, that guy has gotten so much advice it could make a 6 year old a DJ.
He needs to take some action; he's spending too much time here.
This is a sign, that you indeed have no f*cking clue what you are talking about. Don't tell me I need to take some f*cking action, b*tch, I've tooken f*cking action, I approach girls daily, still get the same bad results, you guys told me join a club or sport, I joined wrestling, so don't get me started with that bullsh*t and I spend 9 HOURS A DAY AT F*CKING SCHOOL, HERE THAT, 7:30AM-6:00PM EVERY F*CKING DAY, so don't tell me I spend too much time here. Don't tell me to calm down either, IT WAS YOU who chose to talk about sh*t you knew nothing about.
 

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Man, I dunno what to say to you Viper. I remember giving you all these tips long ago.

You're in wrestling? Start lifting with the team.

I can reply with more if you tell me more about yourself. What other clubs/sports are you in?

Edit// I think it's funny you have so many posts and are a "Senior DJ"... but yenno titles and posts don't mean anything. Reply back.
 

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Originally posted by Viper
This is a sign, that you indeed have no f*cking clue what you are talking about. Don't tell me I need to take some f*cking action, b*tch, I've tooken f*cking action, I approach girls daily, still get the same bad results, you guys told me join a club or sport, I joined wrestling, so don't get me started with that bullsh*t.
STOP being a negitive nancie


think positive.


apply all the advice given to you and you WILL get better results.


if you dont get a girl to want you badly, with ALL the advice given to you, then well quite frankly you let the communists win.
 

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Originally posted by KaminoSS
STOP being a negitive nancie


think positive.


apply all the advice given to you and you WILL get better results.


if you dont get a girl to want you badly, with ALL the advice given to you, then well quite frankly you let the communists win.
Done that, still can't build interest in a girl. Who knows? Maybe I was just never meant to be good with the ladies. I go up the girl, ask her her name, she gives me her name, I give her my name, we chat, but I just don't know how to build interest, how to build attraction, how to make her laugh.
 

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I got a slolution............................ready for this......................Be a model you said before you had good looks or whatever, so I'm sure there is a modeling agency somewhere in your area. Do that, you don't have to make any effort just walk down a line and girls will start talking to you.

Thank you I know I'm a frigging genius
 

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Originally posted by Viper
Done that, still can't build interest in a girl. Who knows? Maybe I was just never meant to be good with the ladies. I go up the girl, ask her her name, she gives me her name, I give her my name, we chat, but I just don't know how to build interest, how to build attraction, how to make her laugh.
Or, more than likely, you HAVEN'T done everything, so you can't build interest.

To be honest, if you followed all the advice given, you would be swimming in biznatches. There must be something missing, so tell what you think that something is so we can help, or try to solve it on your own!
 

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I think you're a little too defensive. The world is not out to get you. Everyone is too busy thinking about themselves. If you don't believe me...look at your own motives (no offense there). Everyone is insecure about themselves...and most people are more worried about what YOU think of them.

You're judging your success by how other women (or people) react. HIGH SCHOOL women, be it at that. Most women in high school are ridiculous man...superficial, ego-driven, dramatic...you get the point. And you shouldn't care about what other people think of you...regardless. That's what I mean about letting go of your ego. That shouldn't become an excuse, though.

Don't do wrestling if you don't want to do it, or because you feel like you have to. If you do it, enjoy it. And if you don't, find something you like doing. Hope this helps a little.
 

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How's this...stop cussing at us like you command some kinda respect. It's annoying the hell out of me, but I wanna see you do good in life so I'ma tell you some advice: relax. Your life isn't that bad if you think about it. Also, the advice we've given you is golden, you just have to use it and KEEP USING it, it won't just magically happen that you're gonna change your image. Keep at it, don't give up....
 

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God, aren't there any other DJ's in Cleveland Ohio???

I don't think Viper needs any more internet advice. He needs a real live mentor. If not a mentor, then at least a DJ brother to help motivate the lad.

But I have faith that he'll grow into a DJ one day. He's still young. Fluctuating hormones and puberty's can really affect a guy's mind.

We'll just have to wait and see.

-fender-
 

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Viper, you are so worried and constantly thinking about your DJ skills that you screw it up. You say that you approach hot girls, and I got to give you props for that. Most guys don't have the guts to make the approach, so you're already ahead of many guys here.
I got a question for you: Whenever you talk to a girl, is the conversation serious and kind of tense, a typical boring chit chat? Do you relax at all and tease them, or joke around?
I think that's the problem. Stop taking yourself so seriously. Don't get me wrong here, you don't want to let people walk over you or talking trash in your face, and they wont unless you say something extremely inane, then you deserve it.
At first I was Mr serious too, but then I learned through my friend, to not care about other people’s opinion about me.
Relax, who gives a **** about what some high school Miss Drama queen/***** thinks of you? I didn't realise this until the guys here pointed out that this is what makes my friend so attractive, and he's not good looking and he's really weird at times.
I think you should have the chorus from Jay-z song 99 problems in your mind when someone picks on you or when you get uncomfortable with people.
"I got 99 problems but the ***** ain't one"

Because from what I've noticed, you do have 99 problems and don't need more.
 

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He knows what to do, it's up to him to change, not us to force him into it.
 
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