The Game Continues, my approach journal

[DonJoseCantosie]

Operation: Date Party PART I

Hey guys, this previous week was solely to find a date for my fraternity party but mostly by finding a girl who i've never met before...also some of them do via direct approach, then offer it. Now here what happened this week. Last year, i never managed to find a date for both of the date parties in my fraternity that semester, as they always fell through. I knew that now was the time that i was going to change that.

Wedesday Night at the Bar: Not that many girls were there, only a few

Aright, this was my third time ever at the bar off campus, but my first time there solely to game. I was with three of my buds and we were having a good time drinking.

#1-Saw a hot slim tall midlenthed hair who walking past our table. I noticed she was looking at me for a second. We held eye contact for a second. She was going to the bathroom....then i saw her walk back to where she was at. So then I told my friends, i would be right back. I see she's playing with an E-Casino game. Her back is facing toward the rest of the bar. I touch her shoulder ever so slightly and say with a smile, "I find you exceptionally beautiful..." She can't hear me...so as she's leaning in a little bit, i say it to her in her ear. She has a shocked/curious look on her face but she says, "Oh...i'm with my boyfriend " I then see that a black guy is right next to her and he didn't even mind at all. I just say whatsup to him and introduce myself to him, just to show my respect. After i go back to my seat...i see her walking toward the bathroom again or something and she looks at me again...and of course, i give her the same smirk as before.haha.

I did see another brunette with two other girls, but i kinda felt it was difficult to handle that kind of approach as i would have to talk to 3 girls at once, but now i've realized that u just should acknowledge the other people in the group too but mostly still her.

#2-I was just about drunk for this one. Was a blonde girl i saw playing pool earlier in another room i was at walking around. I see she's walking to the bathroom(the table i was at was right near it)...so then as she walks back...i stop her, and say, "I wanted to meet you" She says, "Ok " We introduce each other but unfortunately as i was intoxicated, i "assumed" she wanted to go back, But in reality she was fully stopped and didn't seem to try to go anywhere...so i gave up and told her that i'd let her go back to playing.

Lesson Learned:If a girl says "ok" in replies to what you say, don't assume its disinterest...its just she's prolly still feeling caught off guard and its our job to get her to feel comfortable in this situation.


Thursday During the Day

Aright, after quite a while of hesitating to approach and stuff due to the fear of being a hopeless romantic...after a week and such i finally decided to stop random girls walking throught out campus.

#1-I was sitting down under a tree and i see a small long haired brunette walking toward my direction...so then i get up and walk right toward her in a line. So then i smile, stick up my hand and say "Stop! " She somewhat stops and asks me, "Hi five?" I say, "No...stop for a second " she stops
"You are gorgoues....i want to get to know you " She flicks her hair and has a pleasant expression on her face and says....

Her: Hi...my name is Brittany
Me: My name is Steve<hold her hand and lower arm>...pleasure to meet you...
Me: Now what is there i should know about you?
NOTE: This is to help me get better at interactions and being able to improvise in what i truly want to talk about.
Her: Hmmm....well...i'm the oldest of 5 kids
Me: Ah...must've had sibling rivalries...the younger siblings trying to compete with you but then you have the attitude like "here we go again..."
Her: haha...somewhat...eventho we're pretty close..

NOW HERE IS WHERE I CHANGE THE TOPIC SO THAT I CAN PARTIALLY FIND OUT IF SHE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO BE A DATE SATURDAY

Me: Yea...as you get older...you really start to understand it......but i bet ur gonna see them this weekend
Her: Nah...not this weekend...Finally here for the weekend...my boyfriend is coming over
Me: Ahh...when's the wedding?
Her: <She starts to seem a little more serious> There won't be a wedding
Me: Why not? he's ur boyfriend isn't he? Its only natural
Her: Nah, i don't think so...prefer to just have it be a bf-gf relationship
Me: Oh i see. But aright...i'll let u go...it was nice meeting you
Her: You too

LESSON LEARNED: I shouldn't had let that stop me. After the bf comment, i gave up too easily. She didn't seem that serious about the last bit of the convo....she was still open to talk. I think for this approach, i improved my ability to interact...eventho not much was in terms of seduction, but not bad i'd say.

Cafteria line
Was a hot petite blonde girl with her friend in line. After going to the bathroom after eating….i then turn her around and say, “You are a girl I want to bring to our date party” she says, “Aww…but me and my friend are going to Tech this weekend” I say, “Ya sure? Last chance ;-)…it’ll be fun” She asks, “What’s a date party?” I go into it telling her how it’s a private formal party for fraternities and that each brother brings a date. She then says that it’d be great to go but she had planned to go to Tech already and that she was meeting up with friends who lived 4-5 hours away who were also gonna be there. We then part ways.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Operation Date Party PART II

Thursday Night at the big bar
Went with one of my roommates here. As i looked, it was a great place. Quite a bit of girls, people i've seen before...purely awesome. Especially saw good looking girls i knew(Feel like an idiot now, i could've had them as a date for the date party)...and i believe they wanted to be gamed somewhat...i was just oblivious to the universal plot .

But as im sitting with my friend, after a beer...i notice a group of girls are right near our table standing there(our table was the best place...lots of people walked by there)...after i minute...i decide to up the on i thought was the cutest. She a midlengthed brunette hair and pretty blue eyes with a nice body. I turn her around her around and she has a curious look/smile on her face.

Me: I haven't gotten to meet you yet
Her: Oh….my name is Brittany 
Me: My name is Steve…it’s a pleasure
Me: Great hwo it’s a fun place is a lively place like this…my first time!
Her: Yea…its my third time…love coming here with my girlfriends!

After about another minute of talking about going to the bars and what not….

I know you like going to the bars…but what else is there about you…
she then speaks about having a boyfriend…which i kind of took that as disinterest. So I tell her it was great meeting her and her friends….eventho she was friendly and nice.

Lesson Learned: Again, sometimes one should persist through even if they say they have a bf. Could possibly be a test…but she said it kind of like she did have one, but meh…who knows…as now that I think about it…she didn’t even seem disinterested at all

Did another approach with a brunette girl whom I made eye contact with. We had danced together and then she went with her friends for a sec to the bathroom. I could talked with her somemore but I decided to dance some more.

Got to dance with another girl for a long long time…made out with her about 4-5 times…but she was pretty drunk…and once I sat down with her…as she sobered up…she didn’t want to kiss again and I realized she only did cuz she was drunk on the dance floor…so then she tells me we can meet up again at the bar…but I tell her that I doubt im gonna be there….so then we parted ways course in a positive way. I find out the next day, she was the girlfriend of a guy I knew…and she recognized me the day after and thank god she was as good looking as I thought as it was dark on the dance floor that night.

Friday during the Day
Were about 7 girls I directly went up to(were walking around), to see if they could be my date…most were already leaving for home/had plans(This was genuine…I can definitely tell if a girl is fibbing…they would think for a second)…one of them said “Sorry” another tried to pretend that she would go but I knew she wasn’t interested….another one of them couldn’t but wanted to talk to me more(Could’ve game her here)…another wanted my number was in gym attire and was very interested…just that she was goin to Tech also...just bad timing to get a date near the time it would happen….another girl when I said, “Stop right there” as I was behind her…she was smiling when she saw me after I opened her….she was leaving home for the weekend…but had interest as she says, “Hope to see you again” DOH!

ON SATURDAY:
But I did manage to get a date for the party through one of my bros though. I can honestly say tho, it was a blast and had fun…glad she was cute. Didn’t get some that night…but hey…least I got to kiss afew times there….eventho she wanted to leave early(Drama on the phone)

Analysis
1) Direct Approaching again…got that feeling back of doing it.
2) The Bar Im starting to feel more comfortable in that venue
3) I should had still seduced girls whom said they couldn’t go due to going elsewhere for the weekend…as they still wanted to talk…and wanted to find out about me…shame all I cared about was finding a date, rather than setting something up in the future after the weekend.haha.
4) My interactions in terms of seducing could use work.
5) My body language and vibe are better…I seem much more warm and relaxed. I like to smile…what can I say?
6)In terms of gaming, I don’t like to wear letters while approaching during the day as I believe I’ll be using it a crutch(That I can do this even without having joined a frat…some guys u strip a frat away and they don’t got that confidence anymore, i don’t want that to be me...i want to know that i could do this without that) Now at our frat hourse, I could care less since the girls already know anyhow that im a brother).
7) The interactions could use more excitment. Flirting would be a good option for me to improve

 

[Agent Zero]

I love reading your field reports. It takes a lot of balls to go direct on campus. I think if you just keep approaching you will have a lot of success and I know you will.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Thanks alot man....yea...i should look very high for what can happen rather than what has happened, you know?

 

[ian1988]

quality stuff.. i actually might be tempted to give this a try some day...Uni's flodded with hot birds..

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

I definitely have to agree with you! Tons of honeys!

As of lately for the past two weeks:

1) Got a number from a cute brunette girl who i stopped while she was leaving a building, while i was entering. I called her once, left a message. hasn't returned a call. She's a music major, she's bound to be busy. Not sure if she's still interested..we'll see.

2) Took 10 minutes for me to approach this cute blonde girl who was waiting for the bus. She seemed caught off guard after i openered her with: "I finally have the courage to come talk to you. " After the line, she seemed more relaxed but i kinda gave up in the interaction as i expected a enthusiastic response.

3) Around 5PM on a thursday, Stopped a walking girl who had a thick body i liked(D tits). Say to her i want to meet her. She had a caught off guard reaction too. She didn't know how to react to it. I ask her if she's late to class and she says yes. Shouldn't had asked her that as most of the time they will say yes...as she didn't seem like she was in a hurry.haha. Could've been that she was nervous and that she got out of that feeling.

4) Was a blonde girl walking through campus...i manage to catch up to her. I say "Stop " She immediately stops and smiles. I tell her, "You really are stunning...i have to get to know you". She smiles and asks me, "Whats your name?" I tell her Steve...i get hers...and we hold hands for a second. I then ask her "What is there that i should know about you ?" she says that she's a freshman. I then say, "Yea...i could tell " She laughs and says, "Hey!" I then say, "Aint my fault" then she says she's on a rush and has to go and she starts walking off. I tell her, "We should meet up" She smiles but before i could get her number she still walks off.

I definitely know what i did here, i didn't persist enough.

I"ll update more as time goes on.

 

[greenlake]

hey steve, i like the last approach. keep up the good work man.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Thanks Greenlake!

Continuing on

It was sunny outside, im at the point where i know today is the day i get back in the game. The words, "You never try.....im just kidding.' Hit me hard core. I not mad at my roommate for saying it, but more importantly...myself for not taking action of some girls i see around me. I decided that enough was enough and that i will feel alive again...being able to go up to girls that i want to.


#1-Im about to head back to work, and i see this slim, long haired brunette girl walking toward my direction with shades. I am walking past her from a 90 degree angle...but i then say hi... she smiles and says hi...i stick out my hand...but she mistakes it for a five but i tell her with a smile to stop. She stops and i tell her, "you're cute and i want to meet you" She lights up and laughs a little bit. She tells me that she's seen me before. I ask her if i went up to her just like i did now. She says that it was at the gas station that she worked at(She actually was just working the register...we didn't talk at all), and that i was probably drunk. I laugh and say most likely. Afterwards, i ask her if she's on a rush(I was actually in the middle of a run for work...so i had to cut it short)...she says its freezing and i tell her that i'll def see her again.

Lesson Learned: I felt very proud of myself for getting back to the swing of things. Later on, i 100% remember her and lets just say she def was hot. Another thing is that she was very nice and friendly. She responded real well to my approach. I should've atleast gotten her number, but i believe i will see her again.


#2-At the bus stop. Im waiting for it, until i see a blonde girl getting out of her car. She has a body type i liked...not too slim but not overweight...just right. As im walking toward...she would repeatedly a couple times look back at me with a look of "curiousity" while walking to her apartment. I tell her with a smile and a bit loud but pleasant voice, "Stop right there" She has a big smile on her face. I smile and go up to her...till her female friend goes up to her too at the same time. I ask her friend jokingly, "You're friend is cute...I want to talk to her...are you down with that? " Her friend says, " Its up to her" I laugh and then i talk with her friend a minute and the target girl says to her friend that she just got back from seeing her boyfriend but then smiled at me. It was pretty much small talk for a minute. I then tell the target girl that my bus is there. They say goodbye.

Lesson Learned: Felt further proud im getting into the swing of things again. It felt great to see the girl's reaction when i told her to stop. Next time i should put almost all my focus on the target girl.

#3-This one wasn't really a direct approach. It was a latina girl in line at wendy's at our school cafeteria. Lookswise, She def was up there. Had long curly hair and wore glasses(looked good with and without them) and was slim. She's infront of me in line. I say hi with a smile. She says with a smile, hi back. She was a girl i saw before. I ask her If she remembers me. She says that its blurry but my face does look familiar. I joke with her telling her that maybe it was just another black guy that looked just like me, hell many of the black guys there looked like me. She laughed. We get each other's names. For the conversation, it was just small talk...but it was great that i was able to just be relaxed and be able to talk as i had problems with that in the past. We kept talking for a couple minutes, till a male friend of hers started to talk to her. I let him and her talk...and then i pretty much just didn't continue talking to her, eventho i wanted to. But there were interruptions, as familiar faces i saw.... i talked with them.

Lesson Learned: After they introduce themselves and talk for a bit, keep persisting with talking to her. He didn't ****block or anything...was just a friend of hers. After talking to him, she actually had the face expression that she wanted to talk to me somemore. But i will see her again tho. I've seen her around multiple times.

I have to keep this consistently or else i'll slack off. Plus, also be more commited to seducing them...But today was restarting you could say, so i'll cut myself some slack for a little while.

I actually forgot to mention.

The openers i will use will be the basic direct ones, but i will improvise as time goes on and then reveal my intention with these girls.

Pretty much: ILY Opening->Seductive Talk/Non-Small Talk->Reveal Intention->Whatever afterwards.

I use to limit myself only to direct approaching...its what i mostly will do...but some situations...there prolly won't be a need if i don't feel there is. But for the most part, yes...the direct philosophy. Def do not like indirect game....i feel it'll be pointless to me, because i "want" to let a girl know i like them...but at the same time...be confident and charming about it.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Two Days Later

Tonight definitely got me pissed off at myself, cuz of being inhibiited with beer.

Firstly, there's this blond girl that i tried to game before at our parties.....i thought i didn't do that bad with her the other times...i tried to go for the kiss but she told me that "so and so" would care. I told her that i didn't care about that, but what mattered was her and me. So then she wouldn't budge so i let her go and i find that the person she was talking to was a guy who was gaming her earlier. They were making it out. It crushed me beyond belief, because i felt that i was "second in line" since she saw that he was talking to another girl...and so i was the backup. I felt crushed and ever since(Even when showing interest again) i felt a lack of confidence to seduce her...hence i've waited till i was good enough. I want to game her extremely badly but i subconsciously i don't want to get rejected again from her. I'm literally in my head: "Why is she still interested? I dont' get it. Why? I couldn't get u before...why now?" Pretty pessimistic, i know. She showed up tonight and i continue to try not to game her...to avoid getting rejected once again.

It was a highligher party and i see other girls that i've seen at our parties there. Some i said hi to but i couldn't quite seduce them in this environment(I would approach...they show interest from it but when we started to talk...i couldn't say anything else and they didn't contribute much).....I couldn't complete the interaction. It seems im more relaxed when sober than drunk. Day game is much easier for me than night game for the strangest reason. Its frustrating the hell out of me. I just couldn't seduce them the way i wanted to. It killed me...that many girls show IOIs but i can't seduce them. I felt like i had to carry everything and they didn't have to anything. I knew it was my influence with alcohol. It truly hinders me...and it pisses me the hell off that it affects me like this. I do hear advice that u got to free ur mind, but im trying to figure out how. I sometimes feel i need more help than just getting told that but its really the only advice i should need. It really hit when girls showed interest and then u find out later they lose it cuz of something u wish u could fix. I was so mad at the point that when some of the girls looked at me, I gave them glaring eyes but i was definitely mad at myself for messing it up. I was really mad at myself as it was my fault...but i was angry cuz they wouldn't budge when i talked to them.

But thats enough venting for now. I'm finished

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

The Next Week

Tonight i went to the bar with me and my friend. He started to study community stuff and wanted to start some approaching, but he was very nervous. I told him an easy opener to help him start off "You girls look friendly and i want to talk to you" He was hesitating but after 10 seconds of doing a countdown...i he was able to go to a 2 set that was sitting in the table a few feet away.

I on the other hand, didn't have my contacts on and couldn't quite see. As i noticed, there were a good amount of girls...but i let my fear influence me. But it didn't mean i was gonna stop there.

#1-A Funny approach. While my roommate is talking to some of these other girls....i notice a blonde girl talking to a guy. I usually have a code to where if i can see a guy is gaming a girl, i'll let him go for it...but if he isn't getting anywhere...i'll then go for it. But after the guy was gone, as she's getting out of her seat. I turn her around...she's facing me, I tell her, "oh you can't leave yet.." Funny she says, "Yea...the music here sucks...im trying to get to another place " And while she says this, i completely forgot to say what i wanted to say in terms of opening and next thing u know...she's gone.haha. The only word i can give for that scenario was... "uhhhh...."

#2Afterwards, there was this blond with tied up hair who was giving IOIs...but i liked her brunette friend that was playing pool. She actually opened me up and talked close to my ear. I think she had some beers in here...but she could play like a champ. After she was done playing i said, "Since...u've won the game...now i will talk to you". So we introduce ourselves and we talk about 6 minutes straight. She seemed receptive to our interaction, i find out that she does graduate school with Music. Since i was improving my interacting skills, i was seeking a bit more rapport and i find that she assistant teaches it. She asks about me and says that i look young. I tease her saying that it wasn't my problem she liked baby faced guys. She laughs. I ask how she is and she tells me 33. I was shocked, she def didn't look 33 but she thought i was being nice...i looked in her eyes and smiled and told her she def looked younger. We were close to each other and i tended to give some good kino i'd say, i had my arm around her waist and there was no resistence. Once could say, "ahh...looks like i won this situation?" If only i escalated more. After 6 minutes, it turned out she had another game. I decided to let her play but then foolishly didn't seek to continue to talk with her(as i thought she'd come back to talk to me) After the game is done, my roommate wants me and him to play...i reluctantly don't want to as i want to game other girls(Weren't really that many left) and continue talking to the brunette girl but she leaves(She prolly was drunk).

But i could honestly say the interaction was good...the rapport we had was good....if i just knew how to escalate further...things could've developed better. I also should've showed that me and her were more important than the game she had to play.

What i learned:
If a girl isn't showing any resistence to you when u have ur arm around her. Thats gotta mean she likes u in some level.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

At the High Energy Bar Redux

Me and my roommate again go to another bar, but this time its high energy. I wore dress clothes early...so i just put away the sports jacket and tie. So it fit fine with the atmosphere. I notice that there are lots of girls.

#1-While im getting my drink, i see a brunette girl also get one. She looked to be about 5'4. Definitely cute. I touch her shoulder. She faces me, i smile, she smiles. I tell her, "I like you and i want to get to know you" She responds well to it, and her friends are right next to her. I get introduced to them and they're friendly and down to earth. One of her friends was someone who was in one of my previous classes, who i tried to sit with all semester but i was always late and there were no open seats near her.haha.

After the introductions. I ask her friends(in a obviously indirect manner): "Yea...im wondering...umm...wat kind of girl is she? " They giggle alittle bit and tell me that she's a nice girl and fun to be around. I then look right at her and ask what fun stuff she likes to do. She says that she goes out and just school work. I then say, "Really? I bet there is something else u also like to do but can't" As she's about to tell me, my roommate shows up and introduces himself. At this point, my attention is completely on him, since im wondering how to have him join in our conversation(i actually don't want to wing yet as i need to be able to do aright on my own first) so after a minute of introductions, the target girl and her girl friends, and then me and my roommate are talking amongst ourselves and they leave.

Lesson Learned: Afterwards, i told him that im just trying to interact on my own so far and that im not ready to do winging yet. He was down with that, his goal was just making conversation for now. It went ok.

As i'm walking down through the crowded dark venue(Which was high energy and a blast)...i notice one of the girls i see around but haven't been able to reveal my intentions....was about to leave. I'm like to myself, "Why does she have to leave now? I am totally ready to seduce her now. Its perfect!" Then i see a tall redhead girl who've i been into for the past year but never had the courage to talk to either. I notice she's checking me out. I am thinking of going over there, but i feared that i'd mess up an interaction that i could do better on if i was more prepared. EXCUSES.

#2-I see a blonde sitting by herself in a table near the pool area. I turn her around and tell her, "I find you stunning. I have to meet you" She smiles and says that sorry...she's with her boyfriend...she points to him right there. I tell her, "I don't want to replace him" She laughs and i just exit. She seemed genuine about it when she told me. As later, as she left...she was with him but looked unhappy. I'm like telling myself, "Why are u bringing ur girl to a bar/high energy environment and not talking to her that much?" I could tell cuz for like 20-30 minutes, she was just alone while he was talking to whoever else.

By this point, im just grinding and dancing with multiple girls. I see two girls walking down to the dance floor. I say to one of them, lead the way. I take her hand, she leads me to the dance floor and the three of us dance. The blonde girl looks and touches my fraternity pin...she asks, "What's this?"

NOTE: You could say at the time i still didn't want Sorority Girls to like me just cuz i was in a frat

I just say, "Oh...just a pin" She says, "I know what it is....im in Zeta" I was like, "oh ok" She leaves uninterested(Guess she thought i was playing games or something). I'm dancing with her friend for a bit but afterwards her friend leaves.

Lesson Learned: Take pride ur in a fraternity. You can seduce women with or without being in one. Its the man that wears the letters....the letters don't wear the men. hell...one guy in our frat doesn't get laid at all. U still have to have game to lay chicks...even if ur in a frat. Also when dancing with a chick, see if u can escalate further. I should've just said yea...and then continue to seduce her.

Afterwards, i had more alcohol than i planned....but i did stop another girl with the stop hand motion. I forgot what i said direct but she was very receptive when i said it but right afterward she lost interest when i couldn't figure what to say afterward.

Analysis
1) I think i feel more comfortable in bars now compared to when i first went to them, i was nervous as hell
2) Limit alcohol a bit...tends to be my problem...drinking one after another
3) Quite a bit of the girls i interacted with were receptive
4) I enjoy the atmosphere! I def will pickup from there in the future when i get better
5) I hope to be consistent with day game too.
6) I atleast should've gone for some kind of close. Could've met up with some of the girls later...i guess i just thought it was pointless eventho thats balogna.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Solo At the Club: My First Time!

Decided tonight would be my first night gaming at an actual club. It was similar to the high energy bar, but the people there were of a different breed....they were working adults. I wasn't use to that kind of environment yet, but let me tell u...the women were HOT! But the only issue was that only a few were actually alone.

I was supposed to meet up with a guy from our local lair, but we couldn't find each other(I arrived later) plus i couldn't hear him on the phone while we were in the club.

But to start things off...

#1 I see a beautiful tied up hair brunette with black boots and a leaves design dress. As i nervously turn her around, she seems intrigued...i say with a nervous voice and smile, "Excuse me" She gives a polite smile/blow off smile and keeps walking.

So i was on my own. For a while i am feeling nervous and tense. Luckily, there was a band playing(Rock band and they were good) So i was able to actually get myself less loose and more relaxed. And thank god it did...i felt much more relaxed and was having fun being one of the three black guys jammin to rock music. Afterwards, i def felt much better and less nervous.

Lesson Learned: This was to get over nervousness. Had i been more relaxed...it would've been effective.

I noticed some girls were giving me IOIs in the beginning...but i was still afraid to experience rejection at that point. So then i walk around the club multiple times to relax myself and my blocker of people caring what you do was subsiding(People only care what they're doing...sure they may notice u...but most don't care).

Also..For a bit, i had the fear that the same thing would happen the rest of the night...so i decided to just relax and have a good time. I was being a little bit social with the guys there just to get myself in a talktive mood. I started to feel more relaxed, plus i had a natural smile on my face.

Over the course of the night, i see tons of girls but almost all of them are with one or more person. I wasn't too use to the situation like these. I saw a couple of girls dancing. I hesitated to try to dance with them for a couple of minutes(One girl i particularly liked what i saw). So then i tapped her on the shoulder, i grabbed out my hand...but she wouldn't take it and her friends and them moved away from me.

Lesson Learned: Next time, don't hesitate.

I see a blonde and her two friends at the dance floor(where i am at). I touch her upper arm as she's walking past. I introduce myself and say "Hi" she says hi back. We introduce ourselves. And then guess who...her girl friends "come" to her rescue...but i make sure to introduce myself to them too, but with this kind of interaction...i give up too fast..since i thought there was little i could do.

#2 As im getting a soda at the bar area...i notice a thick middle eastern girl(Got nice curves and a face i loved) and her arightfriend are talking. I hesitate for about 3 minutes, since i feared that i would be blown off. But i muster up the courage and tell myself, "**** it" and i go over there...i turn them around...they look intrigued...the music is loud...but i still say loud anyways, "You both are ****ing sexy...and im gonna meet you" They both commented that it was cute. We three introduced each other. She was receptive and was showing interest in the beginning. The Target was giving me some kino by touching me when i couldn't hear her...and tended to get close to me when she couldn't hear me. I decided to interact as long as i could(Even if some of it was just small talk). We're we were from...etc...but i did improve in one thing. I was able to keep the interaction going a little further than usual, by discussing about music. I just asked her wat music she liked to listen to...and she said she liked all kinds. After that, to make sure i use my head of what else to talk about(I could've gotten further with our topic of conversation) but i decided to bring up her female friend and the guy that was talking to her. But afterwards, i let hte convo die unintentionally...i just ran out of steam.

Lesson learned: You're getting better

Afterwards, i didn't want to approach anymore and felt a little tired. Jumping around through multiple songs can do that to you. But i know that the next time im at a club alone, i'll improve and know what i got to do.

Analysis: To Do Next Time
1) Try to go right in front of the girls(rather than do it from behind)
2) Stay in the conversation as long as possible. If ur feeling like ur out of steam...ask an open ended question and get her to talk...then u'll feel energized again
3) You did good relaxing urself first...to reduce nervousness...it'll come naturally next time
4) Raise ur energy level a little bit. Not to the point where u are on caffeine...but to the point where its matched with theirs.
5) Best to approach women "away" from the dance floor as its harder to hear.
6) If ur still feeling mentally tense...still just relax ur body...ur mind will start to relax.


I would say all in all im proud of myself for taking the hardest step, the first one. I was pretty scared hours before leaving to the club, but thank god i had the willpower to go there.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

The posts i just posted today happened from Late October - Mid november.


Just a current update. First of all,
Remember that music major girl whom i got a number from. I was finally able to reach her. I told her that i would like me and her to have some alone time. She "nervously/unsure" said ok. I told her i would call in a couple of days to confirm. The day before i call her, im waiting in class and i see her walking through the halls. She gives eye contact and says hi as she's on a rush...i say hi back to her with a smart alick smile. A couple of days later, i wasn't able to reach her. I left a voice mail saying for her to call me back but she never did.

I did some more approaching but it was mostly at parties where i had some beers and didn't do direct. There were afew girls i tried to game, some of them are still receptive...i just got to escalate and make a move for god sakes(my sticking point...leading).

There was one girl in particular i specifically still want to game with. She was checking me out and i definitely checking her out(She looked familiar but i couldn't quite place where) She was italian and had a body i did like....and a facial structure im drawn to. I turn her around directly, just say hi with a very happy manner and she is receptive to it. She tells me that we met before at my fraternity house, etc. We talk about that for a minute. I then ran out of steam in terms of thinking what to say...so i considered it a loss at that time<shoots self in foot now> and as the night unfolded...she kept glancing back at me and even asked my roommate when he was gaming her, "Steve is weird" He asks her "Why?" She says, "He goes up to me and is happy but then stopped talking to me" He then tells her, "Don't find it weird. He definitely finds u attractive. Its a good thing." If only she knew the reason i stopped talking.lol. Oh well...but over the next few party days, i would see her repeatedly and just say hi to her...eventho i think her interest is waning but i could sense its more like, "Guess he doesn't like me".

When i return to campus next semester...next time i see her...gonna seduce her flat out. Also there are other girls back at campus i still want to seduce that come to our apartment parties.

I've decided that I missed day game and want to do it again. So i've decided to do Mall Game 9 days and Night Game 3 days. I just listened to some Gunwitch and i like his style...will go perfectly with direct! Let the games begin.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

I forgot to mention, i did have a day 2 with this religious girl whom i met a lab on a Friday Night.
She was interested from what i sense but in the sense of wanting to have a serious relationship(which i def do not want).

She was a few extra pounds, but i liked her rack so it didn't matter to me. We ate at the Dining Hall and had good conversation. I was being myself, relaxed, teasing her, etc...and she was relaxed as well. We had good rapport i would say, and i did eventually find out that she was more religious than i thought and only wanted sex after marriage. So i'm thinking, "Nope. Aint gonna work at all. I just want to have sex and thats it." After we eat, she has to go to this Christmas Party with her Christian Fraternity....so then she gives me a side hug....i tell her that we should do a regular hug instead and we do and i do the "peck on a girl's cheeks" thing as the french do but then she's like "What in the world are you doing?!" with a polite smile. I tell her, Just did the courteous/polite thing that they do in courting....she then says that she wanted to kick me(serious manner)...and i tell her, "She's making too big of a deal out of it" So then she says its not a pleasure to see me with a polite smile as we depart. I was like, "If religious girls are like this in a sexual sense...then bleh" She was way too guarded in terms of kino....i know some girls are like that...u just got to have them relax...but it was to the point where it would've been too much effort "trying"

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Dec 28 Winter Sarging Mall 1:

Today I decided to go to the mall to get back in the swing of things. I Won't lie, I was nervous as hell despite the approaching I did in the past. When i arrive there, i take 2 minutes to relax due to the amount of fear i'm feeling. So then i walk inside to Sears first, and see a long curly haired black haired latina who looked my age. When i spot her, she notices me. I have this big smile on my face and she smiles shyly. I go up to her, and say, "I like you....I want to meet you". She has a pseudo-weireded out look for a second, but then says no thanks with that same look. I know exactly the reason i got rejected. My face looked nervous and i talked too fast. For a while, i'm just looking around to find other targets. But mysteriously, as im walking out of Sears, that same girl notices me and is looking at me with more positive eye contact than before...but i tried to fool myself that it wasn't the case till now. I could tell that my face came across as nervous and too serious. Some female latinas were giving me eye contact when walking by...but i was intimidated that they were in groups(I'm focusing on lone wolfs for now to get things off). So then the second girl i see is at a female clothing store. I wasn't sure if she worked at the store or not but i decide to go for it anyways. As she's checking out clothes, i turn her around and tell her, "I find you gorgeous and would like to talk to you" In my mind i found her attractive looking, but i don't think i really found her gorgeous(She looked hotter with her back turned until i saw her face). She doesn't really respond at all, gives a polite smile and continues to look at clothes. I decide to persist further and i ask her name. We make introductions and then she continues what she's doing. I was at a blank/lost for words as i believed it was a lost cause and then she asks, "Can i help you?"<just being polite as she worked there> I tell her thats ok...that i just wanted to meet her and leave. I'm just walking in different stores to cease my nervousness looking at different items. I see more women i want to approach(4 more i really did find attractive) but i pussied out, eventho i didn't "FEEL" AA...was just my mind still somewhat affected from not getting a positive response. I left feeling like i should've done more but i didn't feel bad at myself because i know that i'll do much better next time.

I feel more relaxed in terms of being around the mall a bit more, so I'm going to the mall again tomorrow(But this time with a couple of guys from the forum)...and definitely do more approaches. I prefer doing solo game, but hey...it won't hurt if im with a couple of guys for one of them.

 

[j0n024]

Good job good luck!

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Thanks buddy. Trying to get my approach sense back.

Dec 30 Winter Sarging Mall 2:
I decided to go to the mall to sarge yesterday but i pussed out at the last second when i drove there. But then when i woke up today, i felt much more motivated to go.

When i go inside, im just looking around to see if there are any girls i can go up to. So then im out at the main hall but sadly most women are either with their romantic interest or in groups. I decide to look around further and as im Macy's, i spot a very very attractive woman(Had a very pretty face), behind a lady in line. I turn her around and say, "I find you stunning and i would like to get to know you" Half way in to opening her, I could sense that she was starting to think of it only as a compliment but then as i finish my sentence then she has a smile on her face and she's facing me. Im feeling tense at this point still so i just ask her, "Wat brings u in the mall?" She tells me that she works there. I give a shocked response, "What?! Really? =-o i didnt' know" Then i just ask her what time it closes and she says 7. Still feeling the nervous energy, i eject.

Still getting use to making approaching the norm for me....she was receptive tho...eventho i shouldn't had ejected.

Second approach was a lone woman, whom im like, "This is just for practice" I turn her around and she seems scared. I tell her, "I like you and i want to meet you" She starts to walk fast away and is like "no thanks" with a scared creeped out look. This one didn't bother me at all, because i knew what i absolutely did wrong...I didn't smile plus i talked way too fast.

Later on, I notice more and more targets i could approach(They're walking) but i ***** out(maybe fear of rejection and caring what others around me think).

For the last approach for the day, i notice a brunette woman with a winter hat on. She's sitting down with a straight face. So then i decide to go in.

"Excuse Me "
Her: "Yes?"
Me: "I find you very attractive and would like to meet you"
Her: "<in an european accent> I'm sorry but my husband is over there"

I notice him and he nods his head(He was the guy working at one of the booths)I acknowledge him and smile(Cuz it was a funny situation) so then i part.

Next thing u know, the mall was closing so i decided to just leave. I was like, "DAMMIT! Why now? I' was gonna do somemore"

Lesson Learned: Starting to get my approaching sense back and before long i'll be at the point where i can focus more on interactions.

Got 5/25 down for Gunwitch Mission 1, got 20 more to go.

Tomorrow is New Year's Eve...expect a bigger Field Report.

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Yo man, whats up? Nice to see you getting the mall approaches crackin again.

Post 112: Solo At the Club: My First Time!

Props on going solo on the club. It's a milestone for a seducer imo. One thing I want to say about your report is that when you are hunting in the club, don't wander aimlessly. There is nothing wrong with checking the place out, but if it looks like you are nervous and walking around, although most people won't recognize; the chicks that are throwing IOIs and possibly interested in you will, lol. They'll be like 'where the fvck did that black guy go?' and then they will see you walking around doing nothing.

Also in the club, you can't be doing the timid stuff man. The 'tap chicks on the shoulder' move is not valid outside a royal wedding or a Jr. Prom, you gotta be more assertive. I'm not saying just start grinding her from the back (this is what the majority of guys do back home. it's high risk/high reward) but maybe lightly put your hand on her waist or the small of her back. When she turns around to see who it is, you are rocking back n forth to the music and flash her the pearly whites. It is much more confident and current than the sometimes creepy tap on the shoulder.


I noticed that sometimes you stalled out talking to chicks in a couple approaches. Here is something that helped me IMMENSELY and changed the way I talk to women. I hope it helps you as much as it helped me coz now I go in knowing that if she gives me an inch I can run a mile with it.
http://sosuave.com/articles/converse.htm


Can't say too much about the mall approaches other then stick in there for a bit longer man. You are ejecting hella quick sometimes. Also I know you are just doing this for practice and for fun, but go for the #close every now and then just to show yourself you can do it. There is no difference between a chick snuffing your approaching and a chick snuffing your attempt @ getting her # and since you handle your approach sometimes getting shot down pretty well, I can't see why a #close being rejected would worry you at all. But yeah, good luck in the malls, and don't quit solo clubbing man!

 

[Stéphane]

You got great openers, but you never close!!!!

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Hey bud appreciate the feedback.

Yo man, whats up? Nice to see you getting the mall approaches crackin again.


Props on going solo on the club. It's a milestone for a seducer imo. One thing I want to say about your report is that when you are hunting in the club, don't wander aimlessly. There is nothing wrong with checking the place out, but if it looks like you are nervous and walking around, although most people won't recognize; the chicks that are throwing IOIs and possibly interested in you will, lol. They'll be like 'where the fvck did that black guy go?' and then they will see you walking around doing nothing.

I definitely do agree my man. It was usually a way for me to calm down my nervous energy. And yes, i got some good IOIs there(Was just intimidated that she was in a group)...hell one woman who was already with a guy, she was looking at the corner of her eye at me...to appear she wasn't looking but i knew she was.

Also in the club, you can't be doing the timid stuff man. The 'tap chicks on the shoulder' move is not valid outside a royal wedding or a Jr. Prom, you gotta be more assertive. I'm not saying just start grinding her from the back (this is what the majority of guys do back home. it's high risk/high reward) but maybe lightly put your hand on her waist or the small of her back. When she turns around to see who it is, you are rocking back n forth to the music and flash her the pearly whites. It is much more confident and current than the sometimes creepy tap on the shoulder.

Yea...for one of them i tapped on the shoulder, but the other ones...i turned them around...i wouldn't consider turning them around a timid move....as most have been intrigued. But the arm on the waist, sure i can try that...especially when they're dancing.

I noticed that sometimes you stalled out talking to chicks in a couple approaches. Here is something that helped me IMMENSELY and changed the way I talk to women. I hope it helps you as much as it helped me coz now I go in knowing that if she gives me an inch I can run a mile with it.
http://sosuave.com/articles/converse.htm

Good link. I have to say, when im usually relaxed...conversation just flows for me pretty well. The more approaches i do


Can't say too much about the mall approaches other then stick in there for a bit longer man. You are ejecting hella quick sometimes. Also I know you are just doing this for practice and for fun, but go for the #close every now and then just to show yourself you can do it. There is no difference between a chick snuffing your approaching and a chick snuffing your attempt @ getting her # and since you handle your approach sometimes getting shot down pretty well, I can't see why a #close being rejected would worry you at all. But yeah, good luck in the malls, and don't quit solo clubbing man!

Yea...i use to hella eject quick due to being nervous, but overtime i stuck through it longer, just have to have that kind of discpline. The number thing, honestly i can do(i def can) its just for some approaches i thought it was pointless and that it wouldn't had mattered. But in the future, yes...i'll be doing that much more often. Its just for these few approaches i just wanted to start having approaching be somewhat the norm for me again, which then everything else would start to fall back in place. Coming up, i'll be more committed in the interaction and keeping going . For the mall and club, yep won't give up period! :-D

You got great openers, but you never close!!!!
Thanks man. That is about to change!