The crook...

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  1. Deagleclaw

    Deagleclaw Master Don Juan

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    Hey boys,
    This is the move that will solidify you on early dates.

    Courting is a ritual. A series of progressions into different stages of a budding relationship. More things go on in the first 4 dates than you realize.

    Anyways, early on, you are simply there to interview your new date. Elicit what info you can and determine whether or not you want to spend some time getting to know them or just don't want to waste your time with them. Once you realize that you DO want to continue on with them it is your turn to make a move... This magic little ditty will do wonders.

    When walking from your car to a restaurant or whatever, simply crook you arm(don't look awkward doing it, don't for a second believe she will pass). She will accept the offer as is proper ettiquite whether she's into you or not. By doing this little maneuver you are indicating to everyone else that the two of you are out together. You are indicating to her that you've accepted her as having potential and the evening is going well. You have NOT taken her hand, you have not indicated any level of interest, merely said "I am accepting your company this evening and enjoying it".

    Pros:
    A) You come accross as a Gentleman. Manners ARE important.
    B) She gets to play Audrey Hepburn and feel all American Princessy and warm and fuzzy.(It's all about how you make them FEEL when they are with you)
    C) You discourage others from eyeing her
    D) You get some good Kino in.
    E) You don't come accross as possessive because SHE is holding on to you, not the other way around. In fact, you set the precedent.
    F) You can deftly move from this position to an arm around the waist.
    G) She gets to check your pipes out.
    H) Other women check you out when you have a woman hanging off of you... your date sees this and puts more value on you.
    I) If she's wearing heels and stumbles she can hang onto you... Women love a sense of security in the man they are out with.
    J) It shows that you know what you are doing.
    K) Holding hands early on may be too personal or show too much affection, this is a counterbalance.

    Cons:
    A) If she's a femi-nazi you get the I can walk on my own speech.
    B) If she doesn't take your arm when you offer it is a snub, don't date women who snub you. You are spending your valuable time on showing them a good evening. Snubbing is unacceptable.
    C) If it's cold and her nose is runny it might drip on your sleeve and dry cleaning is expensive.
    D) If her most recent ex sees you together he might draw the conclusion that you are closer than you actually are and deduce that she cheated on him with you and decide to make a scene. In which case you have to throw the guy through a store window and everything goes to hell in a handbasket.

    Yeah, I think it's a magnificent maneuver for a first and second date... even if you're already sleeping together.

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  2. Lorenzo

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  3. Deagleclaw

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    As a side note: It's a good maneuver to see how much she digs you later on. A woman who's totally infatuated with you will take your arm with both hands, and hug it close as you walk.


    Cheers,

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  4. Sociopath31

    Sociopath31 Master Don Juan

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    God, I love that move. Great pros and cons.

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  5. BigBill

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    There are a lot

    of good posts here but this is by far the best I've read in ages.

    WTG!
     
  6. Deagleclaw

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  7. comote

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    How many of you feel smothered when a girl just takes your arm like that without it being offered?
    I personally do not like doing this for this reason. It tends to lead me towards chumpdom.
     
  8. Deagleclaw

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    Easily fixed my friend.

    Every time a woman takes your arm without you offering and you don't want this, reach around and put your hand on her @ss and squeeze. That way you are conveying that you are in a playful mood, not a mushy one, so she should act accordingly.

    Cheers bro,

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  9. Pimpologist

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    Nice maneuver D-Claw! It’s a great way to start out or end the first date. However by the second date you should already be comfortable enough with her that you can just go ahead and put your arm around her and she should be comfortable enough with you to just latch on to your arm without you having to initiate with the crook.


    Very true. The way I exude my playa suaveness is by simply saying, “Shall we?” while smiling and crooking the arm. I prefer using this tactic towards the end of a date usually right after we finish eating and start making our way back out to the car or heading for a brisk walk.

    Using it towards the end of the date instead of the beginning gives you a chance to develop the date through conversation, eye contact and other minor forms of kino, and provides the first climactic point for the date. From then on, it’s easier to get to the second climax, which is the kiss, and sometimes this leads to the third climax…which I’m sure you know about. Layta playa…

    -Pimp

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  10. Pro

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    Good stuff deagleclaw, I'll be sure to use this one!

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  11. Man Of Adventure

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    It seem you never stop amazing me deagle. [​IMG] Alot of your posts just seem to boost up my confidence and strength plain and simple. In the past few months I was on DJ relief gettin experience in the world. Still alot of kinks I gotta straighten out. Id like ya to post again sometime or get ya on MSN instant to possibly get a few pointers.

    Aight. see ya later Deagle. Hope the girlfriend situation is all right.

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  12. Rebel Leader

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    Cons (A) and (B) are actually pros because you find out more about what kind of woman she is. It acts as a filter for the types you really do not want to see again.
     
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    Fer sherr, reb, you def wanna filter them out.
    First date!

    Good stuff, Deagleclaw, I have tried this and it's almost frightening how quickly things go! BTW, I have used it as a transition to (brief, not clingy) handholding, to hand on thigh in car, to kissing at dinnertable, to hand on her arse, etc....

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  14. Amlothi

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    can I get a w00t w00t?

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  15. PortugueseMeatball

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    Great tip, Deagleclaw!

    Actually I see it as a favorable pointer, not a disfavorable one. If the girl does that, you'll know instantly she's not cool enough and you're filtering a looser. Problem solved! Just have to plan on ending the date prematurely at an adequate moment -- e.g., if you're planning to spend 2 hours on a date, spend 30 min or less.

    Oh, OK. You've put my comment on A) here.

    So this is a justification to put your arm around her waist instead, right? [​IMG]


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  16. Nicholas Hill

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    boot camp bump
     
  17. Thedodgejuan

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    sweet tip, couldnt you have brought this up earlier?

    Makes sense and i like the style kinda old school and goes with my values.
     
  18. sAxyguy83

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    Ya, a lot of chix dig the classy "old-fashioned charm". Use plenty of it, but don't forget to toss in plenty of jokes and other stuff so she knows you're more than just a chump. The arm crook is especially effective if you're going someplace fancy. Basically, it's a must if you're doing anything that you'd look out of place w/o at least a tie, if not a suit or tux (an absolute must if you're in a tux).
     
  19. Kwah

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    As I always hold myself as a Gentleman I have to say that yes, that is a very good tip, especially to all of you not sure how to get in close with her.
     
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