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Discussion in 'Don Juan Tips' started by DarkDream, Jan 19, 2002.

  1. DarkDream

    DarkDream Don Juan

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    I was watching the movie, “The Legend of Bager Vance” and one phrase really struck me:

    It wasn’t until last night that I fully became to understand the full import of that statement.

    For the first time in my life, I went up to a woman and asked her for her home phone number with no fear. I acted without reflection at all. She told me, “she couldn’t do that.” After I left with a smile on my face, I started to laugh, not because of her poor excuse, but because I didn’t honestly care if I got the number or not.

    Like golf, you can never fully ever win with women. Women will do whatever they want, when they want, with who ever they want. Women can never be controlled, but what you can control is your emotions and response to her actions.

    Me getting turned down, was secondary to fact that I asked this woman out with no reflection: I just did it. I responded appropriately with action to the situation and what I felt. This very act alone defined me as a man of action that could never be changed by her response or not. I took control of the situation by doing what I wanted do and what was true to me; I alone gave value to her.
    I could not control her response, but I could control my action leading up to it. This was a powerful act, a successful act that overcame all my insecurities and left them behind.

    The key to success is responding appropriately with action without regards of success or failure.

    Dating, like golf, is just a game with funny rules and quirks. Once you start playing it for sake of it and not trying to win it or somehow come on top (because you can’t ever fully win it) then good things tend to happen. Ultimately it is the very desire to somehow succeed that ultimately causes you to fail.

    Bager Vance in the movie, says, “There is only the hole, the ball and you.” When you begin to see that there is simply the woman, yourself and the movement of your mind and nothing else then the stark simplicity and beauty of situation unfolds before you. When you act there is no fear because successs and failure are immaterial in comparison to the act itself. You can not control the success of failure of the act, but you can control the act itself. In other words, why worry or give value to something (a woman) you can’t control but only influence?

    It’s really that simple. Just play the game. Nothing more, nothing less.

    Simple.



    [This message has been edited by DarkDream (edited 01-19-2002).]
     
  2. stockholder

    stockholder Senior Don Juan

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    HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA this is great DarkDream. And when you consider that succes comes with not taking things seriously everything gets so twisted... but funny

    Nice! I was just gonna go out. This will definitely put a stupid but ****y smile on my face.
     
  3. stockholder

    stockholder Senior Don Juan

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  4. Chubbs Peterson

    Chubbs Peterson Senior Don Juan

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    DarkDream,

    Ever see the "Tao of Steve"?
    Same sort of philosophy, except all about women.
     
  5. DarkDream

    DarkDream Don Juan

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    Nope, I haven't. I may check it out sometime. This particular post I came up with on my own, and it is really just some further thoughts that relate to my post: "The Holy Grail of Dating."

    --DD
     
  6. Piece_Maker

    Piece_Maker Don Juan

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    excellent post...
     
  7. DarkDream

    DarkDream Don Juan

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  8. Odysseus

    Odysseus Senior Don Juan

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    THIS IS THE BEST GODDAMN POST I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY FREAKIN' LIFE!!!!!!!!

    PUT THIS IN THE DJ BIBLE, MAKE IT AN ARTICLE, MAKE IT THE "GOD POST" IF YOU WANT!!!!

    THERE IS NOT ONE POST IN THE WORLD THAT CAN TOP THIS ONE.

    I'M SERIOUS AS HELL, THIS IS THE BEST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!

    THIS IS THE BEST POST THERE EVER WILL BE!!!!

    The Bhagavath Gita, thousands of years old said these very words.That movie is the movie that changed my life.

    I'm putting this post in my signature!

    DarkDream, I congratulate you, I think you've made the single greatest contribution to this board.
     
  9. IntermediateDonJuaner

    IntermediateDonJuaner Master Don Juan

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    Seriously here,DarkDream. You are becoming like one of those true DJS like Anti-Dump,Pook,Doc Love and etc.

    Congratulations for your good work! Maybe I might ask for your advice when I am down next time. [​IMG]
     
  10. KiInCollege

    KiInCollege Senior Don Juan

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    Another excellent post, DD. Let me elaborate on your significant proverb.

    This statement is true, although unique to actions like the macking game or golf. Don't try this proverb in warfare or running for presidency.

    You see, it's true because if you "succeed" and get her number, your future pleasure's potential has improved. However, if you "fail," your potential has still improved, because you are more experienced.

    So go out there and holler at the hot girls, because you win either way, my friends.

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    My insecurities once fueled my life. Now I've nothing but burning passion.

    "it tastes like buuurning." Ralph Wiggum

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  11. DarkDream

    DarkDream Don Juan

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    This type of attitude has really removed fear from approaching women. It works.

    --DD
     
  12. DIESEL

    DIESEL Master Don Juan

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    Hey Dark Dream

    We really should start a Nietzsche thread sometime... I read that long ass post you put once...pretty solid interpretration of old Friedrich.. consider this .... Zarathustra = the ultimate DJ ??? interesting..

    The one thing that always bothered me about Nietzsche is that a lot of his philosophy (while I consider to be generally spot-on) was borne out of his utterly AFC-ish personal life...I mean this guy was utterly inept with women and people in general, but yet on paper comes across as something akin to a force of nature...a very interesting contrast.

    One guy who truly talked the talk and walked the walk was Camus....now that guy was f---in DJ pimp...he was genius that partied hard, f---d mad women, and died fast...wrapping his souped up mercedes around a tree.....read his "the Rebel" or "The Myth of Sissyphus" for some other DJ perspectives....

    anyway, DarkDream on to the point of this reply....the Tao of Steve:

    1. Be Desireless

    2. Be Excellent in her Presence

    3. Disappear

    peace,
    -D
     
  13. kickman72

    kickman72 Don Juan

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    WOW [​IMG]

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    The only certainty is uncertainty.
     
  14. ~The_Chosen~

    ~The_Chosen~ Master Don Juan

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    Good, intuitive post.

    two thumbs up

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    ~The_Chosen~ has spoken...

    "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then is just not an act but a habit." - Aristotle

    Judge a man by his questions and not his answers.
     
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    oOh Nasty Master Don Juan

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    5 stars
     
  17. Don-Wan Kenobi

    Don-Wan Kenobi Senior Don Juan

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    Excellent post

    DWK
     
  18. high nrg

    high nrg Don Juan

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    :cool: yeah, "tao of steve". that is a great movie. Some stuff to pick up on. I always think about the "steve and stew" part, that puts a smile on my face. just something to remember if i need to smile
     
  19. disciple

    disciple Senior Don Juan

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    This is the kind of attitude that a true DJ has to have.

    NO FEAR, NO REGRETS.

    Great post man!!!
     
  20. Ricky

    Ricky Master Don Juan

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    I really like this post as well.

    The good part about consider it a game is that we can always do things to improve our games.

    I read a post recently where someone suggested that the DJ lifestyle is all about marketing.

    I think that is true to a great extent.
     

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